This is how Mike Perry vs Michael Jai White fight would go

Holy fuck a couple of you think Frank Dux is real lol

What an embarrassing thread, MJW is an actor with 0 fights and 0 hours of full contact sparring.

Jessica Eye would probably body him.
 
Holy fuck a couple of you think Frank Dux is real lol

What an embarrassing thread, MJW is an actor with 0 fights and 0 hours of full contact sparring.

Jessica Eye would probably body him.
Lol jessica eye?!? Hhaha
 
You practice by destroying targets, so you know the force being applied is genuine, and, in "live" practice, you stop the technique when there's almost no contact.

Hypothetical cobra-strike technique aside, I have actually learned techniques that, for example, if executed with force, would stand a high chance of dislocating cervical vertebrae. Hard to imagine that as anything but lethal.

Just like I don't need to give someone a spiral fracture to learn and know how to execute a wrist lock and crank that will work in real life. You execute with the right placement, technique and speed, and then you don't apply the full force at the end of it, or you slow it down so your partner can flip and fall out of it.
Well said. Theres actual techniques that are allowed and frowned upon in mma as they are career enders or very dangerous. Jone’s kicking at the knee, the explosive arm twists that he used on glover. those werent used in mma fights but jones knew and used them. And a bunch of thoze so called “proven and hardcore” fans were crying about them being dangerous moves like babies lol
 
The double punch at the end should be an MMA technique
 
You think nunes could beat up wonderboy thompson’s dad, machida’s dad when he was young, and MJW?

Frank I'm sorry don't hit me with the Dim Mak


Machida's dad competed
Wonderboy's dad competed

MJW looked pretty for the camera

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Holy fuck a couple of you think Frank Dux is real lol

What an embarrassing thread, MJW is an actor with 0 fights and 0 hours of full contact sparring.

Jessica Eye would probably body him.
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man I'm ashamed of believe in this garbage in my childhood.
 
Dude all standup? MJW for sure. Perry has a chance if he goes for takedowns and LnP, but i doubt he can take down MJW who is way bigger.

One thing which is real is that while technique and power stays throughout age, competitive sparring and timing is essential to land shots. You often see guys in the gym, completely in a lower class in terms of striking credentials and experience do well just because they are peaking in that 'flow state' and just have the timing on other people. It might not be clean, it may not be powerful but it frustrates the hell out of alot of fighters. I don't get the impression MJW these days includes himself in alot of competitive sparring hence my reservation to say that there is an absolute result.

Perry route to victory would be fitness and timing, MJW route to victory would be decorated striking credentials, size, power and karate tournament experience. Just my 2c.
 
You practice by destroying targets, so you know the force being applied is genuine, and, in "live" practice, you stop the technique when there's almost no contact.

Hypothetical cobra-strike technique aside, I have actually learned techniques that, for example, if executed with force, would stand a high chance of dislocating cervical vertebrae. Hard to imagine that as anything but lethal.

Just like I don't need to give someone a spiral fracture to learn and know how to execute a wrist lock and crank that will work in real life. You execute with the right placement, technique and speed, and then you don't apply the full force at the end of it, or you slow it down so your partner can flip and fall out of it.
Your issue is that you’ve never executed it. You never had a live resisting opponent defending against it. You don’t know how well it works. You’ve never seen it in practice. You don’t know if you can execute it, and if you did you don’t know the impact. If you rely on techniques that you’ve never actually applied and they don’t work as planned, you just lost what you thought was your secret weapon and your outmatched everywhere else.
 
The people you mentioned are also called assholes by their peers. Who said anything wrong about MJW character besides MIKE PERRY?

And of course MJW has to get creative with the choreographed fights in his movies and try a bunch of things to be entertaining for casual fight flick fans. I'll admit, it can be cheesy at times but nobody else is putting so many active fighters in their movies.

Many teammates of Jordan have called him a jerk or an asshole. Not ONE single person that has trained with MJW said anything close to him being a asshole/jerk or whatever you want to call him. They all have great things to say for the most part. MJW always mentions what he learned from the big name fighters he has trained with. Jordan aint giving nobody props on anything lol

All I'm saying is it seems like people on sherdog find reasons to hate on him when so many people are inspired by the guy(including fighters much better than Mike Perry). If MJW was some asshole, other fighters besides Perry would have spoke on it. Assuming he is a prick because of Michael Jordan just sounds wild.
You seem fixated on thinking I personally have some kind of grudge against the guy, I don't.
 
Your issue is that you’ve never executed it. You never had a live resisting opponent defending against it. You don’t know how well it works. You’ve never seen it in practice. You don’t know if you can execute it, and if you did you don’t know the impact. If you rely on techniques that you’ve never actually applied and they don’t work as planned, you just lost what you thought was your secret weapon and your outmatched everywhere else.
Actually, it seems like you didn't read what I actually wrote. You can practice the different components.

I can practice a hammerfist to the clavicle and hold off at impact. I can practice the execution of it and simulate a live-action scenario. It takes more skill and control to stop a strike a light contact than it does to follow through with full force, so I know I can execute the full force technique. I've also practice, full force, on targets. I KNOW it will break the clavicle in a live situation, because in using targets, it takes more force to break through a pine board (not the flimsy "breaking boards" sold from MMA site) than it does through the clavicle.

When I execute that wrist crank and slow down the actual cranking on it, I KNOW it works. It's tight, the person feels the pain and has to fall out of it, WHICH I ALLOWED. I know I can execute it without slowing/stopping at the last moment.

I can execute a blood choke. The fact that I release it upon tap doesn't mean that, magically, I don't know that it will kill someone if I maintain it and don't release it until they are dead. I don't have to actually kill someone to know it will kill them.

I can practice shooting and obliterate the target at the range. It would be stupid to claim that, since I didn't kill a live person at the range, that I somehow don't know that if I point the gun at their head and pull the trigger, it will kill them.

Have you ever actually trained, yourself? These arguments seem a bit silly.
 
Bunch of fucking charlatans in here, mystic art death touchers lol.

Like MJW they know nothing about being on the mat, in the ring, or on the receiving end of an opponent who gives no fucks about your health and wellbeing. There is no stunt double and no director yelling, "Cut!"

LARPing in your mom's pajamas like Frank fucking Dux.
 
All this guy’s sparring and acting experience go out the window when he eats a good, real punch
 
Actually, it seems like you didn't read what I actually wrote. You can practice the different components.

I can practice a hammerfist to the clavicle and hold off at impact. I can practice the execution of it and simulate a live-action scenario. It takes more skill and control to stop a strike a light contact than it does to follow through with full force, so I know I can execute the full force technique. I've also practice, full force, on targets. I KNOW it will break the clavicle in a live situation, because in using targets, it takes more force to break through a pine board (not the flimsy "breaking boards" sold from MMA site) than it does through the clavicle.

When I execute that wrist crank and slow down the actual cranking on it, I KNOW it works. It's tight, the person feels the pain and has to fall out of it, WHICH I ALLOWED. I know I can execute it without slowing/stopping at the last moment.

I can execute a blood choke. The fact that I release it upon tap doesn't mean that, magically, I don't know that it will kill someone if I maintain it and don't release it until they are dead. I don't have to actually kill someone to know it will kill them.

I can practice shooting and obliterate the target at the range. It would be stupid to claim that, since I didn't kill a live person at the range, that I somehow don't know that if I point the gun at their head and pull the trigger, it will kill them.

Have you ever actually trained, yourself? These arguments seem a bit silly.
Lol is this real?
 
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