Crime Things are getting crazy in Sweden

[Possum Jenkins]

Well according to you it was abortion. Meh. Fine by me. It was abortion. You do understand what you're saying here though, right? LMAO

Legal abortion was one of several factors.

Re-read the site and take as much time as you want with that.

Ah okay, you're just gonna keep on spamming that chart now, I get it lol. But no, that chart isn't relevant here. We're talking about specific cities and that's a chart for the whole of the USA. As if I needed more proof of how stupid you are.

You don't wanna go into detail about specific cities because you know it'll prove you wrong, just as I did here. LOL

Hey, kid... can you read your own cum-drenched graph? It says "All cities, 250,000 and over"... hmmmm... what's the population size of Baton Rouge... hmmmmm... I wonder...

... ah yes... 219,573... which was clearly stated in the post you just quoted... yet you seem to think 219,573 is MORE than 250,000... go back to school you incoherent fool. Retake basic maths class. LOL

I also gave you examples of tiny American cities (more like towns) that have extremely high murder rates HERE (which you ignored, surprise surprise)...

So you don't know about outliers and averages.

You keep bringing up Baton Rouge and small cities. Well, my chart factors in Baton Rouge and small cities and it's STILL not large enough to pull the national average up. Large cities have higher crime despite Baton Rouge's numbers.

This is like showing that most millionaires come from the upper class but you bringing up Jamie Vardy and Tyson Fury and saying "Nuh-uh! The rich come from any class... how do you explain these guys??"

MIDDLE CLASS BLACKS COMMIT MORE MURDER THAN POOR WHITES. Are you understanding that yet? Does that prove or disprove your claim that murder is about poverty? Can you answer this simple question?

Any honest person looks at the class differences WITHIN a racial/ethnic group. Within whites, the upper classes commit less crime than the middle, who commit less than the working, etc. Same with Asians and same with blacks. This shows that murder is largely about social class.

But like any white nationalist worth their salt, you're dying to bring up inter-group differences so you can bring up inherent, biological (possibly genetic?) black propensity for crime.

But no, blacks' higher criminality even in the higher classes is also due to social and historical factors. Like one of the links that your yourself posted mentions, all American blacks carry a strong southern culture where disputes and squabbles are often settled through violence.

There's also an economic factor. Because of the incredibly unequal history of US race relations, not all middle-class earners have the same standing. I posted this a while back (you conveniently ignored it) but I'll post it again.

See how blacks with a college degree (who are basically middle-class) have the same net worth as white high school dropouts?

This suggests that middle-class blacks have roughly the same economic stability as white high school dropouts. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that two groups with similar economic stability will have similar crime and murder rates. (Note that "similar" doesn't mean "exact, carbon copy.")

So Tokyo should have the highest murder rate out of all cities in the world, correct? Don't say "end of" as if you're having the final word on this and you're declaring victory. The only thing you're possibly right on in this argument is me being wrong about PS1 being the (partial) cause of the homicide drop in the late 90s/early 2000s. The rest of this argument has been me annihilating you. You're as smug as they come on here, but your responses are noticeably timid and limp-wristed, the more we go back-and-forth. Because you know your position has been destroyed.

Sorry, but that chart does end all arguments on this specific question and your countless post breakdowns and countless paragraphs and hurling of insults and victory declarations won't change that.

High population areas have more crimes in the US, and that's pretty clear.

Japan may or may not be different, I don't know. You'd have to look at Tokyo vs rural Japanese areas to answer that.

I'm having fun. Because I'm running rings around one of the sumggest posters on this forum, all by posting facts. I literally used your own graph you keep jerking off over against you. LOL

Yeah, you've been patting yourself on the back a lot here.

Congrats on the great accomplishment of debating me and of having endless energy to type a thousand paragraphs repeating the same debunked points over and over again. But I'm getting tired of this and will call it off soon.

 

[Richmma80]

Demographics is the most important part in predicting success or failure of any society.

 

[evansusmc2]

That's nice. The objective data on how much "crazier" than Sweden things are in the US, including but certainly not limited to gang violence, is at everyone's finger tips.
I also know some Swedish guys, and their concept of "crazy" is only slightly less mickey mouse than Singaporeans. If your buddies think Sweden is "crazy" I'm surprised they could handle Thailand. Assuming they ever left whatever farang resort you trained at.

Cool story…

Also it was a Scorpion Gym (now Golden Glory gym) and it sure as hell wasn’t a “resort”.

 

[Ruprecht]

Cool story…

Also it was a Scorpion Gym (now Golden Glory gym) and it sure as hell wasn’t a “resort”.

Hard data. Murder rate of 1.16 vs 7.5 in the US and 2.6 in Thailand. It's just a fact that the "craziest" areas of Sweden are sure as hell safer than Pattaya, let alone any "crazy" regions of the US.
Hence why Americans talking about how "crazy" Sweden is getting, be that gang crime, politics or anything else, are just a joke.
That's not a comment about Sweden's immigration policy, it's a comment about the ridiculousness of American political commentary on Sweden.

 

[Tatra]

Legal abortion was one of several factors.

Re-read the site and take as much time as you want with that.

You know what the implication is, right?

You keep bringing up Baton Rouge and small cities. Well, my chart factors in Baton Rouge and small cities and it's STILL not large enough to pull the national average up. Large cities have higher crime despite Baton Rouge's numbers.

And you keep on ignoring Baton Rouge and those small cities. LOL

Of course small cities don't bring the national average up you idiot - their numbers are too small. It's only the PER CAPITA numbers that count here. I'm giving you the murder rates for cities that are so small they're basically towns - their murder rates are extremely high - higher than the 3rd largest city in the USA. How? Your claim is that more population = more crime. So explain that.

This is like showing that most millionaires come from the upper class but you bringing up Jamie Vardy and Tyson Fury and saying "Nuh-uh! The rich come from any class... how do you explain these guys??"

I'm not cherry-picking you idiot. I could post tiny cities like that over and over and over again. I just got bored replying to you. You understand you can do that with so many tiny little cities in the USA, right? Now what do you think these murder-ridden cities have in common, hmmmm? A demographic commonality... can you guess, hmmmm?

Any honest person looks at the class differences WITHIN a racial/ethnic group. Within whites, the upper classes commit less crime than the middle, who commit less than the working, etc. Same with Asians and same with blacks. This shows that murder is largely about social class.

But like any white nationalist worth their salt, you're dying to bring up inter-group differences so you can bring up inherent, biological (possibly genetic?) black propensity for crime.

But no, blacks' higher criminality even in the higher classes is also due to social and historical factors. Like one of the links that your yourself posted mentions, all American blacks carry a strong southern culture where disputes and squabbles are often settled through violence.

There's also an economic factor. Because of the incredibly unequal history of US race relations, not all middle-class earners have the same standing. I posted this a while back (you conveniently ignored it) but I'll post it again.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I posted this a while back (you conveniently ignored it) but I'll post it again.

You did NOT post that earlier. Lying again. Not that it's relevant. Yawn.

Anyway, I repeat: middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites. That fact alone completely annihilates the 'poverty = crime' nonsense that you push.

And thanks for copying me re: "(you conveniently ignored it)"... I know I repeatedly touched a raw nerve pointing out you ignoring that post. You know what they say though... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

See how blacks with a college degree (who are basically middle-class) have the same net worth as white high school dropouts?

First of all, this is a completely different stat to the one I gave which was about blacks who make $60,000 - $74,999 committing more murder than than whites who make less than $10,000. But even if it was true... what does that have to do with MURDER? Why would your net fucking worth have any impact on the amount of murder you commit you insane brute? LMAO

This suggests that middle-class blacks have roughly the same economic stability as white high school dropouts. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that two groups with similar economic stability will have similar crime and murder rates. (Note that "similar" doesn't mean "exact, carbon copy.")

Now explain why this translates to committing more murder. Go right ahead. LOL

And then explain why the murder rate INCREASES for blacks who make even more than $74,999. Go!

Sorry, but that chart does end all arguments on this specific question and your countless post breakdowns and countless paragraphs and hurling of insults and victory declarations won't change that.

I think all the cum on your monitor is preventing you from reading what the chart says, dude. The chart proves no such thing and I have repeatedly debunked it. Baton Rouge alone debunks it. Your chart says '250,000 and ABOVE'... Baton Rouge's population is 30k short of that. You have yet to explain why there's all that murder there, and in the much smaller 'cities' I posted, if murder is all about population size. Whenever you're ready...

High population areas have more crimes in the US, and that's pretty clear.

lmao you're just repeating yourself now and that's gonna change absolutely nothing. Also, we're discussing per capita. I don't want you getting sidetracked with 'more crimes'. Yes it's true that there's more TOTAL crimes in larger cities, but obviously per capita is the only thing that matters. I trust you know what per capita means, right? You don't need me to teach that to you as well, do you? Sigh...

Japan may or may not be different, I don't know. You'd have to look at Tokyo vs rural Japanese areas to answer that.

You very well know that Tokyo is one of the safest cities on the planet, so cut the bullshit. Your claim that more population = more crime is once again debunked by Tokyo. I have debunked you over & over again and I'm intensely enjoying just how timid you've gotten when you are almost always so smug. You know you're wrong. Hehe

Yeah, you've been patting yourself on the back a lot here.

Damn right. You're one of the smuggest posters on here. Always love tearing leftists apart. Only facts are needed to achieve that. You have none.

Congrats on the great accomplishment of debating me and of having endless energy to type a thousand paragraphs repeating the same debunked points over and over again. But I'm getting tired of this and will call it off soon.

You haven't debunked shit lmao. But yeah go ahead and call it a day. How are you gonna possibly win this one when I've repeatedly proven your bullshit false?

 

[Tatra]

hey dumb dumb!

YOU cant worship rapists and pretend to care about rape.

Oh, you capitalized & underscored 'you'! I'm scarred! Problem is, I don't worship rapists. So your comment doesn't make any sense. But I'd love to see you try and prove I do. Go right ahead!

Now continue with your whataboutery to your hearts content, buddeh! Another one? It's on me!

 

[Tatra]

That's nice. The objective data on how much "crazier" than Sweden things are in the US, including but certainly not limited to gang violence, is at everyone's finger tips.
I also know some Swedish guys, and their concept of "crazy" is only slightly less mickey mouse than Singaporeans. If your buddies think Sweden is "crazy" I'm surprised they could handle Thailand. Assuming they ever left whatever farang resort you trained at.

Context matters. Sweden is supposed to have minuscule levels of crazy because, well, it's Sweden. Thailand is obviously going to be different.

 

[ermac88]

Oh, you capitalized & underscored 'you'! I'm scarred! Problem is, I don't worship rapists. So your comment doesn't make any sense. But I'd love to see you try and prove I do. Go right ahead!

Now continue with your whataboutery to your hearts content, buddeh! Another one? It's on me!

hello dum dumb !

what about-
YOU cant celebrate rapists and ped0s and pretend to care about rape-

 

[Possum Jenkins]

And you keep on ignoring Baton Rouge and those small cities. LOL

Of course small cities don't bring the national average up you idiot - their numbers are too small. It's only the PER CAPITA numbers that count here. I'm giving you the murder rates for cities that are so small they're basically towns - their murder rates are extremely high - higher than the 3rd largest city in the USA. How? Your claim is that more population = more crime. So explain that.

So you're basically asking, why do outliers occur? Outliers exist for a million reasons in any trend on any topic.

But outliers don't change general trends. And in the question at hand, the trend is clear: crime is concentrated in larger cities.

I'm not cherry-picking you idiot. I could post tiny cities like that over and over and over again.

LOL. "I'm not cherry-picking... but I could cherry-pick over and over again"

Now explain why this translates to committing more murder. Go right ahead. LOL

If you need someone to explain to you why groups of similar social classes/net worth will have similar crime and murder rates then you're too far gone.

You seem like an adult, use your brain a little bit. I promise it's not a complete head scratcher.

And then explain why the murder rate INCREASES for blacks who make even more than $74,999. Go!

That may be a one-off for that one year.

Large trends over several decades (instead of that lone year) show the more logical, higher social class, less murder correlation.

I think all the cum on your monitor is preventing you from reading what the chart says, dude. The chart proves no such thing and I have repeatedly debunked it. Baton Rouge alone debunks it. Your chart says '250,000 and ABOVE'... Baton Rouge's population is 30k short of that. You have yet to explain why there's all that murder there, and in the much smaller 'cities' I posted, if murder is all about population size. Whenever you're ready...

Aaaand you still don't understand outliers.

Perhaps you should have finished high school. Or secondary school or whatever the equivalent is in your country.

lmao you're just repeating yourself now and that's gonna change absolutely nothing. Also, we're discussing per capita. I don't want you getting sidetracked with 'more crimes'. Yes it's true that there's more TOTAL crimes in larger cities, but obviously per capita is the only thing that matters. I trust you know what per capita means, right? You don't need me to teach that to you as well, do you? Sigh...

And this is why I'm gonna bow out after this post.

I do know what per capita means and my chart shows per capita numbers, not total numbers.

I'll repost it for the final time. This time for real.

You see where it says "murders per 100,000" at the top left? That means it's per capita. So yes, crime is concentrated in larger cities.

Again, finishing high school will do wonders for you. In the US, we got this thing called the GED where adults past the age of about 20 can go back and earn their high school degree. I'm certain Britain (or whatever country you're in) has something similar. I highly encourage you to look into this.

You very well know that Tokyo is one of the safest cities on the planet, so cut the bullshit. Your claim that more population = more crime is once again debunked by Tokyo.

You should ask you GED teacher to explain outliers for you. I'm sure they won't mind. Teachers love students that are curious and willing to learn beyond what's required of them.

Best of luck.

 

[I Am Legion]

"Anyone not white is bad."

Just say it Bro

If we are being honest, do you think if 100k Chinese immigrants went to Sweden the crime would have soared the way it has? DO you not agree that some cultures bring with it more violence than others? If we can't speak truths because we are afraid of bring PC, we have already lost.

 

[Andretti]

If we are being honest, do you think if 100k Chinese immigrants went to Sweden the crime would have soared the way it has? DO you not agree that some cultures bring with it more violence than others? If we can't speak truths because we are afraid of bring PC, we have already lost.

Exactly.

Same issue in Norway.

Immigrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia are behind most of the crime and serious violence attacks, sexual assualts. Chinese immigrants and other groups not so much.

It's not a race issue you dumb fucks.

It's about culture and ideology.

 

[Satur9]

Exactly.

Same issue in Norway.

Immigrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia are behind most of the crime and serious violence attacks, sexual assualts. Chinese immigrants and other groups not so much.

It's not a race issue you dumb fucks.

It's about culture and ideology.

They know. It is useless to try this on people who do not wish it to stop in the first place.

 

[lowlife]

Legal abortion was one of several factors.

Re-read the site and take as much time as you want with that.






So you don't know about outliers and averages.

You keep bringing up Baton Rouge and small cities. Well, my chart factors in Baton Rouge and small cities and it's STILL not large enough to pull the national average up. Large cities have higher crime despite Baton Rouge's numbers.

This is like showing that most millionaires come from the upper class but you bringing up Jamie Vardy and Tyson Fury and saying "Nuh-uh! The rich come from any class... how do you explain these guys??"



Any honest person looks at the class differences WITHIN a racial/ethnic group. Within whites, the upper classes commit less crime than the middle, who commit less than the working, etc. Same with Asians and same with blacks. This shows that murder is largely about social class.

But like any white nationalist worth their salt, you're dying to bring up inter-group differences so you can bring up inherent, biological (possibly genetic?) black propensity for crime.

But no, blacks' higher criminality even in the higher classes is also due to social and historical factors. Like one of the links that your yourself posted mentions, all American blacks carry a strong southern culture where disputes and squabbles are often settled through violence.

There's also an economic factor. Because of the incredibly unequal history of US race relations, not all middle-class earners have the same standing. I posted this a while back (you conveniently ignored it) but I'll post it again.

See how blacks with a college degree (who are basically middle-class) have the same net worth as white high school dropouts?

This suggests that middle-class blacks have roughly the same economic stability as white high school dropouts. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that two groups with similar economic stability will have similar crime and murder rates. (Note that "similar" doesn't mean "exact, carbon copy.")




Sorry, but that chart does end all arguments on this specific question and your countless post breakdowns and countless paragraphs and hurling of insults and victory declarations won't change that.

High population areas have more crimes in the US, and that's pretty clear.

Japan may or may not be different, I don't know. You'd have to look at Tokyo vs rural Japanese areas to answer that.




Yeah, you've been patting yourself on the back a lot here.

Congrats on the great accomplishment of debating me and of having endless energy to type a thousand paragraphs repeating the same debunked points over and over again. But I'm getting tired of this and will call it off soon.

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

 

[tank666]

Still mystified why so many countries are doing this and ignoring the huge increases in crime. Plus the huge amount of money being spent on people who have never contributed into said country?

Government's investing in future voters? The Elite/WEF creating divides in population to make them easier to rule?

I don't get it. I just pray at least in the UK reform win the next GE before it's too late to try and save my country forever.

 

[tank666]

Also as others have said Japan doesn't do any of this bullshit and having lived there over 3 years I can confirm it's incredibly safe in comparison.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

The Elite/WEF creating divides in population to make them easier to rule?

Definitely. A homogenous population is harder to rule.

Look at Western xenophobes' dream society, Japan. We all know how fiercely independent-minded and non-conformist they are:

 

[I Am Legion]

Exactly.

Same issue in Norway.

Immigrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia are behind most of the crime and serious violence attacks, sexual assualts. Chinese immigrants and other groups not so much.

It's not a race issue you dumb fucks.

It's about culture and ideology.

A truth that people do not want to admit but also can't deny because facts are facts. This is why if you take immigrants in from those nations, take the women and children. Don't take in single young males already infected with anti-woman ideology. I live in a melting pot. The difference in immigrants is astounding. It's always cultural.

 

[Corona]

Definitely. A homogenous population is harder to rule.

Look at Western xenophobes' dream society, Japan. We all know how fiercely independent-minded and non-conformist they are:

Some of those Asian countries are in full NPC mode. The kpop fans are the worst. Crazy online but robots in person

 

[ermac88]

Also as others have said Japan doesn't do any of this bullshit and having lived there over 3 years I can confirm it's incredibly safe in comparison.

Japan's culture is NOTHING like western culture at all

 

[Tatra]

So you're basically asking, why do outliers occur? Outliers exist for a million reasons in any trend on any topic.

They're not outliers.

Your own graph debunked you, but still you persist. It's hilarious. You claim more population = higher murder rate, so why does Chicago only rank at #8 on this top 10 list you posted, despite having the 3rd largest population in the country? All the cities above it have MUCH smaller populations...

St. Louis: 281k
Baltimore: 565k
Detroit: 633k
NOLA: 364k
Cleveland: 362k
Newark: 304k
Memphis: 618k

Chicago: 2.6 million

See the problem? If your argument was true, Chicago would be top (due to its much higher population). Why isn't it?

Here's another... Shreveport, Louisiana: 187,593; murder rate: 41.7 per 100,000

But outliers don't change general trends

They're not outliers and general trends prove you wrong so I don't know why you keep saying that. Japanese cities are very safe. Cities in Europe with millions of people don't have loads of murder like these cities. Look at Barcelona, Rome, Madrid, Budapest, Vienna... they have murder rates nowhere close to USA rates. Why? Seoul is another. Just accept you're wrong.

And in the question at hand, the trend is clear: crime is concentrated in larger cities.

You're talking about total numbers. I'm talking about per capita. Why do these very small cities (some with just over 20k people) have murder rates above 30.0 per 100,000? Do you have any idea how high that is?

LOL. "I'm not cherry-picking... but I could cherry-pick over and over again"

LMAO you don't know what cherry-picking is. If I can do it all day long, that's not cherry-picking. There's so many examples of it: tiny little American cities with extremely high murder rates. Your own graphs prove YOU wrong. Those 7 cities have small populations compared to Chicago, yet their murder rates are much higher. Why?

If you need someone to explain to you why groups of similar social classes/net worth will have similar crime and murder rates then you're too far gone.

So you can't. That's what I thought.

That may be a one-off for that one year.

Erm, that proves me right. Middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites. You are so dumb. LOL

Thanks for proving me right!

Aaaand you still don't understand outliers.

They're not outliers. But this is obviously gonna be how you bow out of this thread, because you lost so thoroughly. lol

Spoiler: Not outliers

St. Louis: 281k
Baltimore: 565k
Detroit: 633k
NOLA: 364k
Cleveland: 362k
Newark: 304k
Memphis: 618k
Chicago: 2.6 million

See the problem? If your argument was true, Chicago would be top (due to its much higher population). Why isn't it?

Here's another... Shreveport, Louisiana: 187,593; murder rate: 41.7 per 100,000

They're not outliers and global trends prove you wrong so I don't know why you keep saying that. Japanese cities are very safe. Most cities in Europe with millions of people don't have loads of murder like these cities. Look at Barcelona, Rome, Madrid, Budapest, Vienna... they have murder rates nowhere close to USA rates. Why? Seoul is another. Just accept you're wrong.

Perhaps you should have finished high school. Or secondary school or whatever the equivalent is in your country.

Thought you said no insults? Petty childish responses are all you have left now because you've been so thoroughly dismantled. Anyway, they're not outliers. Your own graphs prove you wrong. LMAO

And this is why I'm gonna bow out after this post.

lol called it.

I do know what per capita means and my chart shows per capita numbers, not total numbers.

I'll repost it for the final time. This time for real.

Your own graph proves you wrong. It says 250k and above. I posted cities that have a fraction of that and have extremely high murder rates. The national average isn't relevant here. We have to look at specific cities, but of course you don't want to do that. lol

You see where it says "murders per 100,000" at the top left? That means it's per capita. So yes, crime is concentrated in larger cities.

You see where it says "250k and over"? Baton Rouge is below that, dude. So is Shreveport, Louisiana. There are 7 cities which have higher murder rates than Chicago's despite much smaller populations, according to your own graph. Your own graph proves you wrong. lol

Again, finishing high school will do wonders for you. In the US, we got this thing called the GED where adults past the age of about 20 can go back and earn their high school degree. I'm certain Britain (or whatever country you're in) has something similar. I highly encourage you to look into this.

You're wrong dude, just give it up. It's embarrassing. I haven't forgot about when you tried to blame architecture for blacks' higher murder rate either. LOL

You should ask you GED teacher to explain outliers for you. I'm sure they won't mind. Teachers love students that are curious and willing to learn beyond what's required of them.

Best of luck.

Every Japanese, Korean & European city is the same. That means they're not outliers, dude. So it is in fact you who doesn't understand what 'outlier' means.

Bowing out like a bitch. I expected nothing less. lol