Crime Things are getting crazy in Sweden

[IanEdwards]

Idk enough about what’s happening in Sweden to try and pretend like this is because Muslim immigration. But I do find it interesting how much liberals want to defend Islam, a religion that largely preaches ideas that’s largely against what they support. I went to a Muslim wedding for my neighbor a couple years back. It was an arranged marriage by the parents and the women and men were seated separately lol.

you're aware there are a lot of different muslim communities, right?

so for example i have been to a (Mirpuri Pakistani) wedding where they segregated males and females

and I have been to a (Punjabi Pakistani) wedding, where they did not.AFAIK thery don't segregate Malaysian or Indonesian weddings, and those are two of the biggest muslim populations in the world.

To continue the comparison, child and female literacy rates are also very different, between Punjabi and Mirpuri Pakistanis within Pakistan alone. And very different again, between Pakistan and say Indonesia, Bosnia, malaysia.

TLR; any given individual experience of 'muslims' is unlikely to be representative of the billions of Muslims spread across several disparae regions and cultures.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

What an insane gotcha you've got there.

Define liberalism.

And liberalism, as opposed to what? Fascism?

Great point buddy.

In one exchange: Muslims are a danger because they hold illiberal views!

Next exchange: Liberalism is self-destructive

One-man mental health crisis is a great descriptor.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

More lies. See how natural it comes to you? When did I say "computer nerds"? And yes, they are notorious gamers. You are so ignorant of blacks & hispanics, you go purely on stereotypes. Fucking LOL at thinking low-income blacks and hispanics aren't into gaming. They fucking love it like everyone else. You're some goofy middle-class white kid who can count the number of interactions he's had with those two demographics on one hand, maybe even one that doesn't have any fingers. You are a laughing stock.

This just in: poor blacks and Hispanics are "notorious gamers." Not only are they notorious gamers, they were notorious gamers in the 90s. So much so that it's responsible for the crime drop in this decade. Outrageous stuff here.

But for the 50th time, data contradicts your statements. Couldn't find early 1990s numbers, but here are recent ones:

This is pretty telling because gamers are, of course, a younger demographic, probably 25 and under. And the younger the population group the more nonwhite it gets. So the 25 and under US population is probably only about 50-55% white... yet they make up 75% of gamers. And again, these are the numbers TODAY.

In the 90s when consoles and games were comparably more expensive, there's absolutely no way that poor blacks and Hispanics were SO into them that it caused a crime drop. It's a bizarre take that I can't believe I'm actually entertaining.

Just sit this one out.

Are you dense? I said video games and internet. And the 90s was when the murder rate was at its peak. It's only really since the 2000s/2010s has gaming become extremely popular with all demographic groups. So that only strengthens my argument. As the murder rate down, video game & internet usage increased.

The very early 90s had murder rates at its peak, by 1999 it was down to mid-1960s levels.

That means that from about 1992-99 something caused a dramatic drop in crime. It certainly wasn't vast internet usage, and it wasn't video game usage because just as YOU YOURSELF correctly point out, it was only in the 2010s that this became widely popular.

So your argument is that internet and video games caused the murder rate to go down is now proven to be incorrect. Glad we're in agreement.

You claimed poverty = crime (NOT "urban areas have the highest rates of crime"), so I brought up poor whites (who have a low murder rate), then you deflect to 'b... b... bUt ThAt'S nOt UrBaN'. Hilarious.

What? From our very first exchange I brought up that crime is concentrated among urban poor people.

When you brought up Appalachian whites, I informed you (because you're yet ANOTHER non-American spouting off about American history and culture like you know wtf you're talking about) that Appalachia is a very rural area.

(But, not surprisingly, Appalachian whites have much higher rates of crime, murder, drug use, etc., than suburban whites)

Hahahahahahaha you lost bro. You fucking lost big time.

Of course you think it's hilarious, you're not American.

But it's the truth.

And some stats from NYC... ya know, that uRbAn CiTy?

Violent Crime Arrest Rates Per 100,000 of Major Social Groups, NYC, 2020

Poverty and Violent Crime Don’t Go Hand in Hand

Many analysts, along with the general public, believe that poverty is a major, if not the major, cause of crime. But a new study from a Columbia University research group should remind us of something that history has consistently shown: that the relationship between poverty and crime is far...

www.city-journal.org

Notice how Asians have a significantly higher poverty rate than blacks... yet commit very little murder? Can't WAIT to feast on your reply. LOL

Poverty and crime don't go perfectly hand-in-hand, and of course it's not a 1-to-1 correlation, but they're certainly linked.

I'm not saying it's THE ONLY factor, but it's definitely a factor, and probably the largest factor.

I've underlined all mentions of this in your own article:


In Great Britain, for instance, a criminologist observed that “all of the minority groups with elevated rates of crime or incarceration are socially and economically disadvantaged, but some disadvantaged ethnic minority groups do not have elevated rates of offending.”


And a bit further down:

Early Irish and Italian immigrants also had high crime rates until, having moved into the middle class, they found that such violence became patently self-destructive.

And at the very end:

Both Left and Right agree, correctly, that the movement of minorities into the middle class will reduce crime.


So yes, poverty and social disadvantage are the biggest predictors of crime. Not for every single group in every single scenario, of course, but it's a factor.

This also debunks your claim that working class, urban-dwelling whites don't exist anymore.

Great job in taking that literally. Obviously they exist but notice how they have by far the smallest number of poor at 12%

And the majority of them are in Staten Island, the most suburban-like of all the NYC boroughs. I'll let you google what neighborhoods look like there in comparison to, say, Brooklyn and Queens.

Okay then... why doesn't Tokyo have the highest murder rate in the world, as it has the largest population of any city in the world?

We're talking about the US

We're talking specifically about murder, not simply any violent crime.

Oh ok. Here's murder rates:

All of them are big cities.

But I can use an earlier chart to further this point. I'll repost it for you:

Bigger cities have more crime. Shocking revelation!

Nope. It's all been totally debunked. LMAO

What? Where has it been debunked? Your own article from earlier mentions that it's not easy to pinpoint.

And while you don't know this because you're not American, probably the best-known study about this dramatic crime drop was made in the early 2000s. Surprise, surprise, it was explained through several factors, including political decisions made in the 1970s.

I won't do the work for you but here it is:

Let's Do the Crime Drop Again - Freakonomics

Because the abortion/crime theory put forward by Steve Levitt and John Donohue in this 2001 paper was so jarring, on so many levels, it drew great interest and occasional controversy. The noise really began in 1999, when a preliminary version of the paper was written about. So by 2003, when I...

freakonomics.com

Abortion and Crime, Revisited (Update) - Freakonomics

Abortion and Crime, Revisited (Update) - Freakonomics

freakonomics.com

It received some pushback because, hey, something like this is gonna be complex and hard to explain in two sentences.

But complexity is like poison to you fascists. To you people, everything is simple: the "other" is just culturally or biologically predisposed to being criminal, thieving, murderous, conniving, etc., and there's nothing that can ever be done to remedy this so the only possible solution is to get rid of them.

300+ years ago it was pogroms, 100 years ago expulsions and concentration camps, today it's just expulsions. No matter the time period, bigotry is your only response.

Maybe you should do better.

 

[Tatra]

In one exchange: Muslims are a danger because they hold illiberal views!

Next exchange: Liberalism is self-destructive

One-man mental health crisis is a great descriptor.

How is this a contradiction? lol

This just in: poor blacks and Hispanics are "notorious gamers." Not only are they notorious gamers, they were notorious gamers in the 90s. So much so that it's responsible for the crime drop in this decade. Outrageous stuff here.

They're notorious gamers now. In the 90s, not so much (no one was in the early 90s). What's your obsession with the 90s? The homicide rate was at its peak in the early 90s. PS1 only came out in 95. You're not making any sense.

But for the 50th time, data contradicts your statements. Couldn't find early 1990s numbers, but here are recent ones:

Why would you even want 90s numbers? It's not relevant. That's when the homicide rate was at its highest. The homicide rate has been declining since the late 90s... right around the time 'gaming' really took off. Just fucking LOL at thinking black & hispanic kids don't love gaming as much as white kids do, but it's mostly a 2000s/2010s thing.

This is pretty telling because gamers are, of course, a younger demographic, probably 25 and under

Wrong again.

Google Search

In the 90s when consoles and games were comparably more expensive, there's absolutely no way that poor blacks and Hispanics were SO into them that it caused a crime drop

Again, why are you obsessed with the 90s? The homicide drop is a 2000s thing. But here you are obsessing over the 90s. Not very bright, are you?

It's a bizarre take that I can't believe I'm actually entertaining.

You don't even understand the point being made here. The 90s had the highest murder rates. That's when black & hispanic kids were NOT playing video games for any significant amount of time. I have already stated that only really began in the late 2000s/2010s. Keep up, son. I'm actually arguing with someone who thinks black & hispanic kids don't love playing video games (or surfing the web). JFC. LMAO

The very early 90s had murder rates at its peak, by 1999 it was down to mid-1960s levels.

Yes - right around the time PS1 was at its peak popularity. Would'ya believe that?!

From our very first exchange I brought up that crime is concentrated among urban poor people.

And I debunked that. Why'd you ignore this?
Fuck how did I not realise the problem with your response immediately? lol

My argument still holds true for population size, too. Chicago has a MUCH larger population than Baton Rouge, so if your logic was sound, it should have a much higher murder rate...

Baton Rouge population: 219,573
Chicago population: 2,664,452

Yet Baton Rouge's murder rate is 51.8 per 100k, whilst Chicago's is almost half that (28.4 per 100k), despite x12 the population.

Explain.

(But, not surprisingly, Appalachian whites have much higher rates of crime, murder, drug use, etc., than suburban whites)

They do?!?! But they live in rural areas. Suburban whites live in a semi-urban area, so they should be criming more... right?!?! Which is more crimey... the poor or the urban?



What's the murder rate for rural blacks?

But it's the truth.

It is quite literally not. LMAO

Poverty and crime don't go perfectly hand-in-hand

'poverty = crime bro, seriously'... 'but it's gotta be urban too'... 'but remember it isn't an exact science bro... seriously... ya gotta believe me'.

The hilarity continues.

but they're certainly linked.

But that's not what you said, is it? You said poverty = crime, and then you had to backtrack and shoehorn 'urban' in there, too.

I'm not saying it's THE ONLY factor, but it's definitely a factor, and probably the largest factor.

Ya lost this one, bro. Just let it go.

Early Irish and Italian immigrants also had high crime rates until, having moved into the middle class, they found that such violence became patently self-destructive.

Middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites (which I noticed you ignored). Let it go.

Here, I'll have to post it again...

Spoiler: middle class

Both Left and Right agree, correctly, that the movement of minorities into the middle class will reduce crime

Of course it'll reduce crime you idiot. Who would deny that? No one with two brain cells to rub together would deny that. But the murder rates (and virtually all other crimes) will STILL be higher than whites'. Like I said: middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites. Question is, why?

Obviously they exist

You: they don't exist
Also you: obviously they exist duhh

Failposting continues.

And the majority of them are in Staten Island, the most suburban-like of all the NYC boroughs

You're essentially bringing in architecture into the argument now. LMFAO

Hey Poss... what's the homicide rate like for those poor whites in Staten Island, hmmmm? Not very high, is it? Must be the architecture keeping them in line.

We're talking about the US

lmao and? Shouldn't it hold true for other countries, too? Tokyo is by far the largest city in the world... it's bigger than many countries. There should be MASSIVE amounts of murder taking place, right? Ya know, if your logic is sound.

All of them are big cities.

Tokyo is the biggest. Where's all the murder, hmmmm?

And it makes sense for me to once again bring up why you ignored my point about Baton Rouge having a homicide rate almost twice that of Chicago's despite Chicago's population being x12 the size. Care to explain?

Bigger cities have more crime. Shocking revelation!

lol Tokyo. lol Baton Rouge. lol per capita. lol you.

I won't do the work for you but here it is:

ABORTION and CRIME?!?! Erm... do you really understand the implications here, buddeh? Do you really wanna go down that road? LMAO

you fascists

Do you people ever get bored of this shit? Do you not cringe inside when you throw your toys out the pram like this? You're getting buried here though so I understand your frustration.

300+ years ago it was pogroms, 100 years ago expulsions and concentration camps, today it's just expulsions. No matter the time period, bigotry is your only response.

Maybe you should do better.

 

[Tatra]

hey dumb dumb

Ill type if for you one last time in hopefully simple enough words for you to understand-

You cant worship RAPISTS and pretend to care about RAPE

again

you cant worship RAPISTS and pretend to care about RAPE


So even simpler

If you like RAPIST you cant complain about RAPE.

lmao finally you admit you were engaging in whataboutery. We got there in the end.

You seem to be losing it a bit though. A bit unhinged... get that checked out, okay?

Oh and btw, no one's worshiping rapists. That's just something you made up.

 

[Tatra]

Oh ok. Here's murder rates:

All of them are big cities.

Sorry I had to respond to you again on this point because it just captures what a joke your argument is. In the very graph you posted (I noticed you used 9 year old data, despite much more recent data being widely available... yet more evidence of your deceit, but we'll leave that aside) it literally debunks your entire argument... St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, NOLA, Cleveland & Newark are all relatively small cities compared to Chicago (America's 3rd largest). Detroit is the largest out of them with just 633k. The rest are around 250-300k-ish. Chicago's is 2.6m.

And then there's Alexandria, Louisiana... murder rate: 50.9 per 100,000 in 2020 (!!!!!!)... population... *drum roll*... 45,275... LOL

Homicides in Alexandria

Following Mayor Roy's speech at the Alexandria Rotary Club, KALB took a look at crime statistics in Alexandria.

www.kalb.com

You can do this for so many small towns that have a similar pop... let's do another... Petersburg, Virginia... murder rate: 53.5 per 100,000 (jesus fucking christ)... population... *drum roll*... 33,309... oof... this is getting worse lol

https://www.princegeorgecountyva.gov/news_detail_T6_R2125.php

One last one... Union City, Georgia... murder rate: 23.6 per 100,000... population... *drum roll*... 26,738... oh well, it's not as high as Chicago's 27.9, but not far off... was I wrong after all?!?!

Union City Crime Rates and Statistics

Explore Union City crime rates and statistics.

www.niche.com

 

[ermac88]

lmao finally you admit you were engaging in whataboutery. We got there in the end.

You seem to be losing it a bit though. A bit unhinged... get that checked out, okay?

Oh and btw, no one's worshiping rapists. That's just something you made up.

you cant worship RAPISTS and pretend to care about RAPE

 

[Quadtavius Tuck]

Just remember that most people in Sweden don't even see this as a problem and they want even more refugees from the middle east and African countries.

Because it's got nothing to do with immigrants and refugees. Sweden used to be a lot more violent when it was 100% homogenous, and the murder rate is one of the lowest in the world. Racists do like to blame everything on industrious brown folx instead of taking a hard look at their own lazy asses. They also stoke the flames of the ever increasing right wing extremism in Europe.

 

[Deleted member 609094]

Because it's got nothing to do with immigrants and refugees. Sweden used to be a lot more violent when it was 100% homogenous, and the murder rate is one of the lowest in the world. Racists do like to blame everything on industrious brown folx instead of taking a hard look at their own lazy asses. They also stoke the flames of the ever increasing right wing extremism in Europe.

ChatGPT says:

Here's a more nuanced breakdown:

Historically:

Sweden was indeed more violent in the past, especially in the 1800s and early 1900s. For example, alcohol-fueled violence and domestic killings were more common. This was not unique to Sweden—many countries experienced higher violence historically, regardless of ethnic diversity.

However, today’s crime issues—particularly gun violence and gang-related crimes—are of a different nature, often linked to urban segregation, social inequality, and the drug trade.


Modern Context:

Sweden’s homicide rate remains low by global standards, but gun violence among criminal gangs has increased, especially in cities like Stockholm and Malmö.

Police and government reports have acknowledged that some of this violence involves young men with immigrant backgrounds, particularly second-generation immigrants who feel alienated or marginalized.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

How is this a contradiction? lol

Well, you're frothing at the mouth mad because a group of people that don't agree with a political/social system that's self-destructive are migrating into your society.

Or maybe their type of backwardness is at odds with your type backwardness. I don't really give too much of a shit though.

Again, why are you obsessed with the 90s? The homicide drop is a 2000s thing. But here you are obsessing over the 90s. Not very bright, are you?

Your strategy of breaking a post down into a million quotes and then writing a bunch isn't working.

It's real simple, the 90s are important because that's when we saw the sharpest drop. Here, I'll post this for the 3rd time so you can't pretend to ignore it:

See that absolute cliff from about 1992-99? That's much sharper than the 21st century decline. We agree that it wasn't videogames and the internet, so what caused it?

Your theory is that blacks and Hispanics are unchanging, irredeemable crime machines and that more of them will inevitably create more crime. But their increasing share of the population from the late 80s to the mid 2010s also coincides with a dramatic drop in overall crime.

And I debunked that. Why'd you ignore this?
Fuck how did I not realise the problem with your response immediately? lol

My argument still holds true for population size, too. Chicago has a MUCH larger population than Baton Rouge, so if your logic was sound, it should have a much higher murder rate...

Baton Rouge population: 219,573
Chicago population: 2,664,452

Yet Baton Rouge's murder rate is 51.8 per 100k, whilst Chicago's is almost half that (28.4 per 100k), despite x12 the population.

Explain.

Surely you understand about trends, averages, and outliers, don't you?

The trend of larger cities having more murder is also backed up by this extremely useful chart, which I'll be reposting for now the 4th and final time:

You see that that lighter-colored, tan line? You see how it's considerably higher than the darker, brown line?

But that's not what you said, is it? You said poverty = crime, and then you had to backtrack and shoehorn 'urban' in there, too.

I didn't backtrack. This is the quote where I first mention this-

Anyone that's not a frothing in the mouth racist can tell the obvious: in any society, crime is committed largely by the poor, urban, underclass.

It's post #171 in this thread and it's unedited. Go back and look.

Middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites (which I noticed you ignored). Let it go.

Here, I'll have to post it again...

Spoiler: middle class

The post you quoted isn't comparing two ethnic groups against each other, it's an intra-group comparison, not inter-group. Do you understand this?

It was comparing working-class Italians vs middle-class Italians. Or working-class Irish vs middle-class Irish.

Your own chart also backs up this point. Whites and Asians have lower murder rates the higher you go in the class system. The black rate isn't as perfectly linear but it's still there.

Of course it'll reduce crime you idiot. Who would deny that? No one with two brain cells to rub together would deny that. But the murder rates (and virtually all other crimes) will STILL be higher than whites'. Like I said: middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites. Question is, why?

You would.

You've ranting about how social class doesn't matter. Glad you're coming around.

lmao and? Shouldn't it hold true for other countries, too? Tokyo is by far the largest city in the world... it's bigger than many countries. There should be MASSIVE amounts of murder taking place, right? Ya know, if your logic is sound.

Tokyo is the biggest. Where's all the murder, hmmmm?

And it makes sense for me to once again bring up why you ignored my point about Baton Rouge having a homicide rate almost twice that of Chicago's despite Chicago's population being x12 the size. Care to explain?

lol Tokyo. lol Baton Rouge. lol per capita. lol you.

I won't post the chart for the 5th time but you can scroll up and see it again.

Crime is concentrated in larger cities, end of.

By the way, filling your replies with "lol" and insults, and then claiming victory doesn't mean you've actually won anything.

ABORTION and CRIME?!?! Erm... do you really understand the implications here, buddeh? Do you really wanna go down that road? LMAO

It was an analysis of a historical phenomenon, not a policy prescription.

You should read into it, it's pretty fascinating.

 

[Tatra]

Well, you're frothing at the mouth mad because a group of people that don't agree with a political/social system that's self-destructive are migrating into your society.

Or maybe their type of backwardness is at odds with your type backwardness. I don't really give too much of a shit though.

Again... where's the contradiction? Stop trying to fit a square into a circle, buddeh. Ain't gonna work. You're literally outlining why liberalism is completely unsustainable and yet you think you've discovered a gotcha here. Is this you trying not to be dense?

I'm not Muslim. If Muslims ever dominated Europe, that would be bad for me because I'm not Muslim. Are you getting it yet? That's why I don't like their backwardness. At least you admit they're backwards, though.

You don't give a shit? Yeah, duhh. You don't actually give a fuck about women's & girl's safety, feminism & LGBT rights. Muslims hate all that. And you couldn't give a fuck. Thanks for being honest for once. The same is true for everyone on the left.

Your strategy of breaking a post down into a million quotes and then writing a bunch isn't working.

It's not a strategy, I just prefer doing that so you know exactly what I'm responding to. You're doing it too, silly. Engage brain.

I'm burying you because the truth is on my side, not because of the way I respond.

It's real simple, the 90s are important because that's when we saw the sharpest drop

But there were drops before that. It was clearly on an up-down-up-down trend. The only difference is it continued to decline... into the late 90s... right around the time PS1 was at its peak popularity.

And you're really gonna have the nerve to accuse ME of ignoring stuff, with how you just responded? *cough* BATON ROUGE *cough*

See that absolute cliff from about 1992-99? That's much sharper than the 21st century decline. We agree that it wasn't videogames and the internet, so what caused it?

Your theory is that blacks and Hispanics are unchanging, irredeemable crime machines and that more of them will inevitably create more crime. But their increasing share of the population from the late 80s to the mid 2010s also coincides with a dramatic drop in overall crime.

Well according to you it was abortion. Meh. Fine by me. It was abortion. You do understand what you're saying here though, right? LMAO

Surely you understand about trends, averages, and outliers, don't you?

It's not an outlier, as demonstrated in this post (which you also conveniently ignored LOL).

The trend of larger cities having more murder is also backed up by this extremely useful chart, which I'll be reposting for now the 4th and final time:

Ah okay, you're just gonna keep on spamming that chart now, I get it lol. But no, that chart isn't relevant here. We're talking about specific cities and that's a chart for the whole of the USA. As if I needed more proof of how stupid you are.

You see that that lighter-colored, tan line? You see how it's considerably higher than the darker, brown line?

You don't wanna go into detail about specific cities because you know it'll prove you wrong, just as I did here. LOL

Hey, kid... can you read your own cum-drenched graph? It says "All cities, 250,000 and over"... hmmmm... what's the population size of Baton Rouge... hmmmmm... I wonder...

... ah yes... 219,573... which was clearly stated in the post you just quoted... yet you seem to think 219,573 is MORE than 250,000... go back to school you incoherent fool. Retake basic maths class. LOL

I also gave you examples of tiny American cities (more like towns) that have extremely high murder rates HERE (which you ignored, surprise surprise)...

Anyone that's not a frothing in the mouth racist can tell the obvious: in any society, crime is committed largely by the poor, urban, underclass.

Middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites. You have the nerve to accuse me of ignoring your irrelevant little graph, yet you keep ignoring this...

Spoiler: middle class

Your own chart also backs up this point

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA on what fucking planet are you living on? My own chart proves that middle-class blacks commit more murder than poor whites, but you claim murder (and all other crime) is about pOvErTy. Screw your fucking head in will you.

Whites and Asians have lower murder rates the higher you go in the class system. The black rate isn't as perfectly linear but it's still there.

Sorry, maybe I'm making a mistake in thinking you actually understand what the chart I posted says... look at the black stat for '$60,000 - $74,999' - see where it says '8.1'? Now compare that to the 'white' income bracket of 'Less than $10,000' - see where it says '7.2'? Now, enlighten me, ol' Possy... is 8.1 more or less than 7.2? I know simple arithmetic is a real struggle for you, but give it a go...

Whites and Asians have lower murder rates the higher you go in the class system.

The black murder rate INCREASES for blacks earning '$75,000 - $84,999' and '$85,000 and over'. Are you drunk? Go on genius, explain THAT one to me. Can't WAIT! LOL

MIDDLE CLASS BLACKS COMMIT MORE MURDER THAN POOR WHITES. Are you understanding that yet? Does that prove or disprove your claim that murder is about poverty? Can you answer this simple question?

You would.

But I wouldn't. The point is, it'll STILL be higher than the white (and Asian) murder rates (as I've proven). Question is - WHY?

You've ranting about how social class doesn't matter. Glad you're coming around.

The desperation is sweeter than chocolate. That's your takeaway from what I said? Hahahahaha



No ranting, just burying. You understand.

I won't post the chart for the 5th time but you can scroll up and see it again.

Your own chart proves you wrong you goof. Baton Rouge has a population of 219k. Your graph says '250k and above'. I also posted cities in this post (which you ignored) which have less than 1/5 the population and extremely high murder rates. Hahahaha

Crime is concentrated in larger cities, end of.

So Tokyo should have the highest murder rate out of all cities in the world, correct? Don't say "end of" as if you're having the final word on this and you're declaring victory. The only thing you're possibly right on in this argument is me being wrong about PS1 being the (partial) cause of the homicide drop in the late 90s/early 2000s. The rest of this argument has been me annihilating you. You're as smug as they come on here, but your responses are noticeably timid and limp-wristed, the more we go back-and-forth. Because you know your position has been destroyed.

Baton Rouge, which has a population LESS than 250,000 (whoops, I gave you the answer to the question above lol), renders your own stupid graph completely invalid. The other murder-ridden cities I posted in this post (which you ignored) also debunk your absurd 'more population = more crime' nonsense. Those TOWNS have populations of 45,275, 33,309 & 26,738, respectively. No wonder you ignored the post. LOL

By the way, filling your replies with "lol" and insults, and then claiming victory doesn't mean you've actually won anything.

I'm having fun. Because I'm running rings around one of the sumggest posters on this forum, all by posting facts. I literally used your own graph you keep jerking off over against you. LOL

It was an analysis of a historical phenomenon, not a policy prescription.

But you understand what it's getting at... right? RIGHT?

 

[Tatra]

you cant worship RAPISTS and pretend to care about RAPE

Thank you for your whataboutery admission. Good day.

 

[evansusmc2]

Someone from the US saying things are getting crazy in Sweden is pretty funny.

Ever been to Sweden? Just talked to some Swedish buddies I trained with in Thailand. They definitely admit it gets drastically less safe there every year. But I need to let then know they are wrong on account of what you just typed on a keyboard, right?

 

[ermac88]

Thank you for your whataboutery admission. Good day.

hey dumb dumb!

YOU cant worship rapists and pretend to care about rape.

 

[Ruprecht]

Ever been to Sweden? Just talked to some Swedish buddies I trained with in Thailand. They definitely admit it gets drastically less safe there every year. But I need to let then know they are wrong on account of what you just typed on a keyboard, right?

That's nice. The objective data on how much "crazier" than Sweden things are in the US, including but certainly not limited to gang violence, is at everyone's finger tips.
I also know some Swedish guys, and their concept of "crazy" is only slightly less mickey mouse than Singaporeans. If your buddies think Sweden is "crazy" I'm surprised they could handle Thailand. Assuming they ever left whatever farang resort you trained at.

 

[The_Renaissance]

That's nice. The objective data on how much "crazier" than Sweden things are in the US, including but certainly not limited to gang violence, is at everyone's finger tips.
I also know some Swedish guys, and their concept of "crazy" is only slightly less mickey mouse than Singaporeans. If your buddies think Sweden is "crazy" I'm surprised they could handle Thailand. Assuming they ever left whatever farang resort you trained at.

Thailand is child's play. However, to my knowledge, there are no bombings in Thailand.

 

[Sir Punchalot]

Thailand is child's play. However, to my knowledge, there are no bombings in Thailand.

Oh, there are certainly bombings in Thailand. They're less frequent than in Sweden, obviously, but there are more than enough of them. The people behind most of the bombings there come from the same religion as those responsible for most of the bombings in Sweden. But that's just a really, like, totally weird coincidence, of course.

 

[Ruprecht]

Thailand is child's play. However, to my knowledge, there are no bombings in Thailand.

Sure there are, in the south. Another major one last month.
Thailand is certainly well within what I consider completely safe, but the reliable crime rates are more than twice that of Sweden (2.6 per 100K for homicide for instance, vs 1.16).
I know that just from Australia, the lifestyle attracts plenty of our organised crime.
Even so, Thailand is certainly safer than the US or our regional comparisons for "crazy", like Papua New Guinea. Sweden isn't comparable.

 

[Sir Punchalot]

Sure there are, in the south. Another major one last month.

It's not just in the south. There have been several bombings in Bangkok as well, and perpetrators have been both Thai and foreign (like when a bunch of Iranians tried to bomb Israelis there back in 2012).

 

[Ruprecht]

It's not just in the south. There have been several bombings in Bangkok as well, and perpetrators have been both Thai and foreign (like when a bunch of Iranians tried to bomb Isrealis there back in 2012).

Sure, they aren't that quiet politically. Not just the Muslim insurgency either. I was in Bangkok in 2010 when there were colour riots and grenade attacks.
Also no shortage of foreign organised crime on the beaches, living that Pattaya lifestyle.
In terms of crime, gang violence and homicide though, the US makes it look very G rated, and Sweden's rates are less than half Thailand's.