Crime Things are getting crazy in Sweden

[650lb Sumo]

Uppsala shooting: police hunt under way after three people killed

Police say people ‘have been found with injuries that indicate gunfire’ after loud bangs heard in Swedish city

www.theguardian.com

Three people were killed in a shooting in the Swedish city of Uppsala on Tuesday, police said.

A large area was cordoned off in the centre of Uppsala, a university city 44 miles north of Stockholm, after witnesses described hearing multiple shots at about 5pm local time and seeing people running in different directions and hiding.

The suspected shooter fled the crime scene on an electric scooter and a police hunt was under way, according to SVT Uppsala.

 

[terrapin]

"Anyone not white is bad."

Just say it Bro

The story has some merit despite some of the racist comments. It's always strange to me how few people from the left ever even enter these threads. I really don't get it. It's not that hard to be compassionate and loving and realistic and stern with people who make a country less safe. Without Justice there can be no love. And I don't understand the soft-hearted love on the left that avoids meeting out Justice when needed.

It simply doesn't matter why certain immigrants don't assimilate or don't give up crime. It's irrelevant if it's culture or poverty or socio-economic background etc. if an immigrant can't comply and is going to murder, rape our do other violent crimes and be in gangs they have to go and it's irrelevant what the reason is.

It's essential even to treat them with deportation if the goal is to foster a positive view of immigration and continue to help people that deserve to be helped.

If the goal is to allow immigrants to come and live in various countries, then the only way to foster goodwill is to be harsh on those who make the place less safe.

One strike and you're out of the country If you rape or are in a gang, do any kind of violent crime or threats of violence. Make that incredibly clear to them when they arrive in the country and then you won't have people hating immigrants because all the immigrants you'd hate are gone.

 

[terrapin]

I don't know what's hard for countries to get on this topic. I have no problem taking in immigrants, but there's got to be a one strike rule for any kind of violent crime or gang membership. One strike and you're out of the country forever with no hope of ever returning and that's not racist. That's just how you deal with that b*******.

If you're kind enough to take people in the country and they won't assimilate and they bring crime and make people less safe then they just have to go and it's that simple.

I think major world powers do have a responsibility to stop f****** with other countries and destabilizing them so that they can control and manipulate them too. We definitely play a role in immigration.

 

[Sinister]

The story has some merit despite some of the racist comments. It's always strange to me how few people from the left ever even enter these threads. I really don't get it. It's not that hard to be compassionate and loving and realistic and stern with people who make a country less safe. Without Justice there can be no love. And I don't understand the soft-hearted love on the left that avoids meeting out Justice when needed.

It simply doesn't matter why certain immigrants don't assimilate or don't give up crime. It's irrelevant if it's culture or poverty or socio-economic background etc. if an immigrant can't comply and is going to murder, rape our do other violent crimes and be in gangs they have to go and it's irrelevant what the reason is.

It's essential even to treat them with deportation if the goal is to foster a positive view of immigration and continue to help people that deserve to be helped.

If the goal is to allow immigrants to come and live in various countries, then the only way to foster goodwill is to be harsh on those who make the place less safe.

One strike and you're out of the country If you rape or are in a gang, do any kind of violent crime or threats of violence. Make that incredibly clear to them when they arrive in the country and then you won't have people hating immigrants because all the immigrants you'd hate are gone.

"The left" just tend to not respond to racial bait threads where the implication is "here is the problem with those people."

Anyone who breaks laws should be punished accordingly. Anyone who breaks laws and is an immigrant shouldn't also have to be addressed through a generally xenophobic lense. ESPECIALLY by groups of people who have done a they can to either erase or misrepresent the History of how they came into prominence in certain areas.

 

[Tatra]

These ethnic gang communities have become a thing of their own that doesn't really affect your average citizen that much. You just stay the hell out of their way and watch them rip each other apart, that's pretty much it.

They eventually won't be able to 'stay out of their way' because it'll have taken over the entire country. Swedes are just 75% of the country now. 25 years ago, it was over 95%.

Dwindling? They still make up for 75% of the total population.

No chance.

Yeah, you gotta go back more than 20 years for Sweden.

Let's go back 30+ years to the early 90s. Little to no INVADERS FROM THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES back then.

Sweden Murder/Homicide Rate - Historical Data
Year	Per 100K Population	Annual % Change
2021	1.08	-9.72%
2020	1.20	10.63%
2019	1.08	1.71%
2018	1.06	-5.40%
2017	1.12	5.49%
2016	1.07	-6.34%
2015	1.14	27.41%
2014	0.89	-1.02%
2013	0.90	26.71%
2012	0.71	-16.83%
2011	0.86	-11.79%
2010	0.97	-2.98%
2009	1.00	12.53%
2008	0.89	-26.64%
2007	1.21	21.18%
2006	1.00	9.00%
2005	0.92	-22.83%
2004	1.19	25.28%
2003	0.95	-16.17%
2002	1.13	15.71%
2001	0.98	-9.64%
2000	1.08	-5.19%
1999	1.14	9.53%
1998	1.04	5.50%
1997	0.99	-12.34%
1996	1.13	13.45%
1995	0.99	-13.35%
1994	1.15	-7.84%
1993	1.24	-5.73%
1992	1.32	-1.40%
1991	1.34	20.41%
1990	1.11	20.41%

Sweden Murder/Homicide Rate 1990-2025 | MacroTrends

Intentional homicides are estimates of unlawful homicides purposely inflicted as a result of domestic disputes, interpersonal violence, violent conflicts over land resources, intergang violence over turf or control, and predatory violence and killing by armed groups. Intentional homicide does...

www.macrotrends.net

Oh shit, the murder rate ranged from 1 to 1.34! How the hell is that possible??

Stats are woke, the World Bank is woke.

Leftists are in control of the crime stats in Sweden and they purposely don't report the accurate numbers, but you know that.

Not too hard to understand, Derpi.

As the white population in the US has decreased, so have murders. There was a modest increase from about 2012-2020 but the overall trend is downwards from decades before.

This goes completely against the white nationalist circle jerk you guys always get going that asserts that crime is off the rails because there are too many immigrants both in the US and Europe.

But like the great philosopher Ben Shapiro always says, facts don't care about your feelings.

It wasn't white people committing the vast majority of those murders, dimwit.

And in the USA it's non-immigrant blacks who are responsible for the USA's high murder rate. But again, you know that.

The best part about threads like this it’s littered with Americans with the worst crime in the western world…

Throwing kettles in black houses and all that

Do you tards have any kind of self-awareness? You know full well why the USA has such a high murder rate. How can you be this dumb? I just don't understand it LMAO

 

[terrapin]

"The left" just tend to not respond to racial bait threads where the implication is "here is the problem with those people."

Anyone who breaks laws should be punished accordingly. Anyone who breaks laws and is an immigrant shouldn't also have to be addressed through a generally xenophobic lense. ESPECIALLY by groups of people who have done a they can to either erase or misrepresent the History of how they came into prominence in certain areas.

Well, I agree with all of this, but it just seems like every thread where we find that the statistics do show that immigrants are raping and committing crime at a much higher rate is ghosted by people on the left.

And then strangely those same countries seem to hide this information or suppress it, which makes no sense at all to me.

What I think it is is that people on the left are generally very soft-hearted and good-willed and they rightly want to take in immigrants and help as much as they can. And when they find out that these immigrants are raping and murdering and committing crimes is at a much higher rate. I think it causes cognitive dissonance for them and I think that they just basically avoid the topic altogether because of it.

I generally see this as a lack of spiritual development on the left where it has overdeveloped compassion and underdeveloped sense of justice. But a healthy and whole individual can easily navigate between the two and not lose the thread.

Generally, when the left is wrong on issues like this, it's just because they have extremely good natures and have compassion as their goal but are naive soft-hearted and have not come to embrace justice as the guardian of compassion.

The lack of clear sane voices on the left on these issues just leaves the playing field open for rampant racists to spin their dishonest narratives which look at the same issue and use it to justify racism, xenophobia and general hatred towards the other.


When the right is wrong on these issues, it's wrong not because of compassion but because of racism and hatred. But in a vacuum of people on the left being willing to discuss these kind of issues honestly, they're the only ones who get to create a narrative.

 

[cincymma79]

Well, I agree with all of this, but it just seems like every thread where we find that the statistics do show that immigrants are raping and committing crime at a much higher rate is ghosted by people on the left.

And then strangely those same countries seem to hide this information or suppress it, which makes no sense at all to me.

What I think it is is that people on the left are generally very soft-hearted and good-willed and they rightly want to take in immigrants and help as much as they can. And when they find out that these immigrants are raping and murdering and committing crimes is at a much higher rate. I think it causes cognitive dissonance for them and I think that they just basically avoid the topic altogether because of it.

I generally see this as a lack of spiritual development on the left where it has overdeveloped compassion and underdeveloped sense of justice. But a healthy and whole individual can easily navigate between the two and not lose the thread.

Generally, when the left is wrong on issues like this, it's just because they have extremely good natures and have compassion as their goal but are naive soft-hearted and have not come to embrace justice as the guardian of compassion.

The lack of clear sane voices on the left on these issues just leaves the playing field open for rampant racists to spin their dishonest narratives which look at the same issue and use it to justify racism, xenophobia and general hatred towards the other.


When the right is wrong on these issues, it's wrong not because of compassion but because of racism and hatred. But in a vacuum of people on the left being willing to discuss these kind of issues honestly, they're the only ones who get to create a narrative.

You are all pussies. That’s the problem. You’re sensitive but eventually you become so full of shit you become assholes yourself. That’s why we elected a dick to fuck those assholes. If he doesn’t we’re going to have our dicks and our pussies covered in shit

 

[terrapin]

You are all pussies. That’s the problem. You’re sensitive but eventually you become so full of shit you become assholes yourself. That’s why we elected a dick to fuck those assholes. If he doesn’t we’re going to have our dicks and our pussies covered in shit

Yeah I'm not that way at all actually which is why I often criticize the left for it. But at least their biggest problem is an overabundance of compassion and love which puts them in good company with Jesus. Now all they have to do is embrace justice as the guardian of love as Christian theology teaches.


But with the right it's justice before love which is anti-christian and also it often isn't justice at all. As you know there is often hatred and racism mixed in with it and fear of the other.

Of the two groups, it seems to me obvious that the left is more evolved, although still imperfect.

 

[Tatra]

"The left" just tend to not respond to racial bait threads where the implication is "here is the problem with those people."

Anyone who breaks laws should be punished accordingly. Anyone who breaks laws and is an immigrant shouldn't also have to be addressed through a generally xenophobic lense.

The left only talks about immigration/diversity when the context is positive. When it's negative, they look the other way and pretend it's not happening.

Immigration has proven to be a net loss for the receiving countries. When you take that into account, it doesn't make sense to focus on individual criminals and say they deserve to be punished, it makes sense to point the finger at immigration.

ESPECIALLY by groups of people who have done a they can to either erase or misrepresent the History of how they came into prominence in certain areas.

What is this nonsense supposed to mean?

 

[Tatra]

Yeah I'm not that way at all actually which is why I often criticize the left for it. But at least their biggest problem is an overabundance of compassion and love which puts them in good company with Jesus. Now all they have to do is embrace justice as the guardian of love as Christian theology teaches.


But with the right it's justice before love which is anti-christian and also it often isn't justice at all. As you know there is often hatred and racism mixed in with it and fear of the other.

Of the two groups, it seems to me obvious that the left is more evolved, although still imperfect.

His comment was a reference to Team America: World Police.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Leftists are in control of the crime stats in Sweden and they purposely don't report the accurate numbers, but you know that.

When it's stats I like: See?? The numbers don't lie!

When it's stats I don't like: The leftists control the numbers!

It wasn't white people committing the vast majority of those murders, dimwit.

And in the USA it's non-immigrant blacks who are responsible for the USA's high murder rate. But again, you know that.

Like all white nationalists, you're convinced whites are incapable of criminality.

Unfortunately for you, FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS.

Look at this presentation from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine and look at slide/page 2 :

https://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/dbassesite/documents/webpage/dbasse_083892.pdf

It shows US murder rates going back to 1900. If racists like you were correct, the line would be low throughout the early 1900s since that's when the US was at its whitest. Then it would rise incrementally (with no stops) until 2000 since the nonwhite population has grown incrementally without dips since then.

But that's not what we see, is it?

But since "LeFtIsTs CoNtRoL cRiMe StAtS!" none of this is going to matter to you.

 

[Hog-train]

It doesn't help that you get sent to a country club even if you kill somebody.

Why does Sweden let in so many refugees from shitty places? Where are these refugees coming from?

 

[Kassitus]

Yeah I'm not that way at all actually which is why I often criticize the left for it. But at least their biggest problem is an overabundance of compassion and love which puts them in good company with Jesus. Now all they have to do is embrace justice as the guardian of love as Christian theology teaches.


But with the right it's justice before love which is anti-christian and also it often isn't justice at all. As you know there is often hatred and racism mixed in with it and fear of the other.

Of the two groups, it seems to me obvious that the left is more evolved, although still imperfect.

In my opinion each side has been deeply corrupted by similar poisons but in fairly different ways. For the left the idealism of a universal justice to be strived towards and upheld penetrates to the very foundation of their worldview, and in instances where this ideal conflicts with the primal nature of organisms hard coded to be Machiavelians who sort themselves into hierarchies you end up with what I suppose might be summarized as coercive equity. Putting the square peg in the round hole in the name of a higher justice. Then on the right the everyday conservative resists accepting any such ideas at a foundational level, often not sure why they do so. Something feels off about it, but they cant quite put their finger on it. Despite this they live in a world created by liberalism and it seeps into their pores. Their ideas become a mix of reluctant concessions and primal rejections. Naturally the result can be quite a mess.

 

[Tatra]

When it's stats I like: See?? The numbers don't lie!

When it's stats I don't like: The leftists control the numbers!

Are you denying leftists are in control of these stats in Sweden?

Like all white nationalists, you're convinced whites are incapable of criminality.

Pathetic toy-out-the-pram response. Of course white people are capable of crime. It's just that the high murder rate of the USA is entirely due to African Americans (and to some extent hispanics). BUT AGAIN, you know this.

I've spent the last month or so gorging on Mafia documentaries when they were at their peak in NYC in the 70s, so believe me I'm aware of the criminality of whites. It's just nowhere near the level of blacks (or hispanics).

If racists like you were correct, the line would be low throughout the early 1900s since that's when the US was at its whitest

This is such a pathetically-weak 'argument'. Blacks were still committing a shit load of murder back then, too. Along with hispanics and Native Americans. You'd have done yourself a favour if you hadn't given me a graph which also gives me the stats from Australia, Canada & England/Wales, all of which had/have MUCH lower murder rates. Remove the black and hispanic murder rates from the USA and you have a murder rate pretty much equal to the rest of the Anglosphere.

You're actually denying that blacks & hispanics are responsible for the vast majority of the murders in the USA. You fucking joke. lol

 

[Tatra]

But since "LeFtIsTs CoNtRoL cRiMe StAtS!" none of this is going to matter to you.

And just to add another point... this quote above perfectly captures how full of shit you are. When did I say "leftists control crime stats"? I was specifically talking about Sweden you lying piece of shit.

If leftists didn't lie they'd have nothing else to say.

 

[Scerpi]

"The left" just tend to not respond to racial bait threads where the implication is "here is the problem with those people."

Anyone who breaks laws should be punished accordingly. Anyone who breaks laws and is an immigrant shouldn't also have to be addressed through a generally xenophobic lense. ESPECIALLY by groups of people who have done a they can to either erase or misrepresent the History of how they came into prominence in certain areas.

You're right...

Better to turn a blind eye and maybe the problem will go away.

Less racist that way... lol.

It's not racism you fucking clown. It's called being pragmatic and addressing the root cause of the issue.

I agree with @terrapin

Make it a one and done policy. You're convicted a violent crime of any kind and you're sent back to your country. Don't send them to prison, don't give them probation... send them back.

Message will be sent and the violent criminals are removed.


This... I mean right here is fucking insane...

Nearly two thirds of convicted rapists in Sweden are migrants or second generation immigrants​

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-two-thirds-convicted-rapists-162918941.ht

 

[Lord_Impaler]

No one could’ve predicted this

 

[Lord_Impaler]

Jesus look at the fucking leftists in here holy shit lol. There’s a massive problem with sexual violence toward women from immigrants in Europe and these mouth breathers response is hurrrrr durrrrr you hate anyone who isn’t white. It must be painful being that fucking simple lol.

 

[ermac88]

Jesus look at the fucking leftists in here holy shit lol. There’s a massive problem with sexual violence toward women from immigrants in Europe and these mouth breathers response is hurrrrr durrrrr you hate anyone who isn’t white. It must be painful being that fucking simple lol.

Amen.

we dont rape b*tches, grab pussy or molest children in the good western world

 

[Bobby00]

Jesus look at the fucking leftists in here holy shit lol. There’s a massive problem with sexual violence toward women from immigrants in Europe and these mouth breathers response is hurrrrr durrrrr you hate anyone who isn’t white. It must be painful being that fucking simple lol.

No its just painful on everyone around them.