TheGuardian blasts Dana: "You don't bounce back from hitting women" is the UFC's biggest lie

[kimocomplex]

his Saturday former NFL defensive end Greg Hardy — a man once convicted of assaulting his ex-girlfriend —

biased journalism

no mention of charges being dropped

 

[neandertal]

I disagree.. if he eventually (by merit) is good enough and done his time and behaved after that etc then maybe, but the timing is ridiculous, Co-main on first ESPN show and on the same card as one of the most profiled ufc domestic violence victims.. pfft.

 

[BeardotheWeirdo]

do these idiots want the man to not have a job so he wanders the streets committing more crimes? Ostracizing criminals from society is probably a good way to keep them in the spiral of crime.

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so what do they want? Greg Hardy to become a homeless person or a criminal? let the man make a living, sure, he's a scumbag, but so is Chris Brown and nobody is bitching to Interscope Records about him choking Rihanna.

If you read the post you'd know.

They don't think UFC should let him skip all the press conferences, they want to grill him for his past actions.

They didn't say he doesn't deserve employment.

 

[SUPERPREDAT0R]

wait hardy is co main??

damnnnn

also journalist saying this is stupid i want to see him fight to see him LOSE

NGANNOU vs HARDY 2021 he will KO hardy

some jus dont get it .....

 

[DJ Nasty Jerm]

MMA fighters are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for domestic violence than NFL players. But UFC does not want to talk about the issue.

his Saturday former NFL defensive end Greg Hardy — a man once convicted of assaulting his ex-girlfriend — will make his official UFC debut. To add to the controversy, Hardy is scheduled to compete on the same fight card as Rachel Ostovich, who suffered a broken orbital bone during an alleged attack by her husband.

The UFC’s willingness to promote Hardy on a variety of their platforms, including their highly anticipated debut on ESPN+, highlights the gaping inconsistencies in their domestic violence policies.

In the wake of NFL running back Ray Rice assaulting his fiancée in 2014, UFC president Dana White took a strong stance against domestic violence: “There’s one thing that you never bounce back from and that’s putting your hands on a woman. Been that way in the UFC since we started here. You don’t bounce back from putting your hands on a woman.”

By December 2018, White’s stance on domestic violence had dramatically changed from his zero-tolerance approach.

In an attempt to stifle journalists from asking further questions about Hardy, the promotion shielded the fighter from fight-week media obligations. The UFC took this decision despite Hardy’s place in the co-main event. When it comes to domestic violence, it appears that UFC thinks silence is golden.

UFC did not respond to a request for comment on this story.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/17/greg-hardy-ufc-domestic-violence-rachel-ostovich

That was dumb of him to ever say that. But now they're handling right. Hitting a woman isn't the worst thing in the world.

 

[Congo66]

The first is that he never paid for his crime.
The second is that hes never really shown contrition
And the third is that people tend to consider entertainment jobs as more of a privilege as compared to "normal" jobs. And it is true that certain transgressions can, and should, get you blackballed from certain fields. In this case it seems, to me at least, is that domestic abuse should be one such transgression for athletes in contact sports.

Reasonable points but she chose to take a pay off didn't she? So he hasn't done time but he has paid for it.
He plead not guilty too didn't he so it's hard to show contrition if you 'claim' not to have done it.
Money > some women getting smacked about a bit. If the consumers don't care then why should the employers.

I hope he gets ktfo and gets cut but that's not happening in this fight. I have no real desire to watch him fight but I probably won't turn the tv off so I will watch it.

 

[20falarVerdades]

wait hardy is co main??

damnnnn

also journalist saying this is stupid i want to see him fight to see him LOSE

NGANNOU vs HARDY 2021 he will KO hardy

some jus dont get it .....

Ngannou vs Hardy ... the battle of A-level athletes

 

[Muppettoker]

do these idiots want the man to not have a job so he wanders the streets committing more crimes? Ostracizing criminals from society is probably a good way to keep them in the spiral of crime.

I think this piece is more about the hypocrisy of the ufc calling out the nfl and claiming that they don’t let that shit slide and then this shit

 

[king_ebeneezer]

What greg he did is a scumbag move and real bottom of the barrel stuff but people deserve a second chance- to an extent.

lol nobody is saying he doesn't deserve a chance. The issue is that the UFC doesn't want to talk about it and is shielding a headliner from the media.

 

[submitmejusttry]

MMA fighters are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for domestic violence than NFL players. But UFC does not want to talk about the issue.

his Saturday former NFL defensive end Greg Hardy — a man once convicted of assaulting his ex-girlfriend — will make his official UFC debut. To add to the controversy, Hardy is scheduled to compete on the same fight card as Rachel Ostovich, who suffered a broken orbital bone during an alleged attack by her husband.

The UFC’s willingness to promote Hardy on a variety of their platforms, including their highly anticipated debut on ESPN+, highlights the gaping inconsistencies in their domestic violence policies.

In the wake of NFL running back Ray Rice assaulting his fiancée in 2014, UFC president Dana White took a strong stance against domestic violence: “There’s one thing that you never bounce back from and that’s putting your hands on a woman. Been that way in the UFC since we started here. You don’t bounce back from putting your hands on a woman.”

By December 2018, White’s stance on domestic violence had dramatically changed from his zero-tolerance approach.

In an attempt to stifle journalists from asking further questions about Hardy, the promotion shielded the fighter from fight-week media obligations. The UFC took this decision despite Hardy’s place in the co-main event. When it comes to domestic violence, it appears that UFC thinks silence is golden.

UFC did not respond to a request for comment on this story.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/17/greg-hardy-ufc-domestic-violence-rachel-ostovich

Don’t you have a wall to fund Nancy?

 

[Mammothman]

People needs to chill the fuck out, yes hitting woman it's a scum move but it was years ago and it got settle, people are acting like he killed somebody or something

 

[Muppettoker]

Who cares? Cage fighting has always had the undesirables in society involved from the beginning.

Don't pipe up now when you've looked down on it for so long as if it's some leader in morality.

Next they'll be like "violence factory" ufc history with trump etc...

I guess if you’re the president of said ‘violence factory’ you shouldn’t spout off about how your company won’t stand for that stuff then.

 

[Threetrees]

Reasonable points but she chose to take a pay off didn't she? So he hasn't done time but he has paid for it.
He plead not guilty too didn't he so it's hard to show contrition if you 'claim' not to have done it.
Money > some women getting smacked about a bit. If the consumers don't care then why should the employers.

I hope he gets ktfo and gets cut but that's not happening in this fight. I have no real desire to watch him fight but I probably won't turn the tv off so I will watch it.

To your first point o feel like people conflate something
With some crimes the pubic sometimes doesn’t care about the victim, there’s a whole discussion for another time, but sometimes people just want to know ‘justice’ was served. That’s what I mean by pay for it


As for the rest of your post, I in part agree. I think consumers should ts;kmwith their wallets and refuse to,watch, because I don’t expect businesses to take moral stands. It’d be great if they did, but they don’t which is just a reality. Fans should care though.

But moreover I feel like reporters just want the chance to ask questions about this to inform the would-be consumers to the best of their ability, and also to get some clicks,

 

[Bend NvR Break]

do these idiots want the man to not have a job so he wanders the streets committing more crimes? Ostracizing criminals from society is probably a good way to keep them in the spiral of crime.

This is major issue with backgrounds checks. It prevents people from working after a person serves whatever punishment the court saw fit. If you're not gonna give a person a chance to reassimilate to society then let everyone know from the start it's one strike and you're out.

 

[bufetadanacara]

Maybe he believed the feminist message that men and women were equal.

If you think about it, it should be considered sexist to not hit a woman.

 

[Aforo88]

I’m happy that there are journalists who are being vocal about this issue, instead of toeing the party line or ignoring it altogether.

Do you as a mma fan care though? Arnt we more curiouse about what technical improvements a high level nfl athelete can make to become a force at the very shallow UFC he division? The more i read sherdog, the more I think sherbros is turning into social justice warriors caring more about personal life and morals than technique and preformance...

 

[Aluminati]

he offers black folks second chances...has the Guardian?

That would require them to have been given a chance in the first place.

 

[Aluminati]

Maybe he believed the feminist message that men and women were equal.

If you think about it, it should be considered sexist to not hit a woman.

It should be looked at as more of a hitting someone who is half your size, or like an athlete beating up a math nerd. It should still be frowned upon and treated as assault in the eyes of the law.

 

[AP_RESURRECTION]

Do you as a mma fan care though? Arnt we more curiouse about what technical improvements a high level nfl athelete can make to become a force at the very shallow UFC he division? The more i read sherdog, the more I think sherbros is turning into social justice warriors caring more about personal life and morals than technique and preformance...

Yes but I think the inconsistencies in the UFC's BS morality is what irks people. They act like they care about domestic violence to appease idiots and then they promote this guy on the main event. Thats the part people react to. If the UFC didn't blatantly say stupid sht like that to create a perception, then no one would care.

You're right that no one really cares about his actions from an MMA fan perspective. But the UFC is getting heat for promoting him after making hypocritical comments. The UFC being a mean organization who doesnt care bout fighters and does shady things is one of the most interesting stories about the UFC, and this attention will only lead to big ratings for them overall ha. The UFC is very calculated and intelligent, even if it seems like chaos.

 

[Flex Plexico]

Why are we comparing MMA fighters to NFL players. If we're going to blame Dana for this shouldn't it be UFC to NFL?
What makes an MMA fighter? Having one mma fight in a casino in the middle of nowhere? Lots of pieces of shit have a couple of cage fights for fun. What if we compare MMA fighters to anyone who's ever played pickup football, how do the numbers look then?

No doubt the lower echelon of cage fighting attracts people who are prone to violence, but I don't know what that has to do with the UFC.

That said Greg Hardy is likely a piece of shit and Dana puts money above morals every time.

great point^