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The War Room Bet Thread V5

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Lead, Aug 28, 2020.

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Best bet(s) settled in the last bet thread (see closed bets section in post 3)

  1. Bet 16 HUNTERMANIA v. Lead

    50.0%
  2. Bet 21 oleDirtyBast4rd v. HomerThompson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Bet 24 Lead v. HomerThompson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Bet 25 waiguoren v. HomerThompson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Bet 28 IGIT v. HomerThompson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Bet 36 Trosky v. waiguoren

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Bet 40 PolarBearPaulVarelans v. waiguoren

    50.0%
  8. Bet 42 HereticBD v. waiguoren

    50.0%
  9. Bet 46 Jack V Savage v. Rockapotomuss

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Bet 38 ObamaPhoneLady v. VivaRevolution

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Lead /Led/ like the blanket Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Disclaimer:
    -The forum itself does not choose to enforce any bets between posters. This thread is meant to serve as a public record of wagers between posters to be settled by an assigned arbitrator. A poster is only held to their honor of upholding their end of the bargain and could possibly not honor the bet punishment. The result of this will only come into play in the rankings system (explained below) and the public ridicule that may follow.

    The Rules:
    -Since we have this thread now,
    keep bet discussions in here rather than other threads. It will prevent derailing the discussions there. If you organically come up with an idea in another thread, just move the conversation over to here with whomever it is with.

    -Bet types are limited to name, avatar, and/or signature. Other proposals can be made but likely won't be considered in the ranking system.
    No account/e-suicide bets as silencing part of the community isn't very WR like. This is suppose to be something fun but not fatal for our regulars here. No cash bets as the site doesn't want to host that.

    -Do not allude/mention bets in this thread that don't adhere to the rules above. For example, mentioning an account ban bet will just get the post deleted.


    How to Make and Finalize a Bet
    When coming in here, please propose your wager to the other poster involved and tag @Lead so the progress can be tracked.
    Bets cannot be finalized until they are formatted in this manner:
    1. The exact statement the bet is premised upon
    2. Stance each poster is taking in regards to the statement
    3. The date the bet will be decided (this can become tentative based of the officiators call)
    4. The reward/punishment for the winner/loser
    5. The duration of the reward/punishment
    6 (OPTIONAL) A situation which makes the bet void that isn't clear with the content in 1 & 2. This needs to be very clear if included.

    7 (OPTIONAL) The moderator(s) (see list) the posters agree to call the bet. The default would be @Lead if no one else is selected
    I will get both posters to quote and agree to the formatted bet before making it official. At that point, the bet is live and cannot be undone unless both parties agree to drop it and let me know. I will make sure both parties are certain anytime something like that is done.
    At the time a bet is expected to be called, the posters involved are expected to sort it out first and see if they agree to who won/lost. If there is a disagreement to who won/lost the bet, the moderator(s) selected for the bet can make the call. If it's multiple moderators, majority decision decides the winner and likely will be discussed privately via PM.
    -Once the bet is decided, the bet will be closed and officially counted towards the public records/rankings

    Moderators: Madmick, Zankou, computer fogie, Lead, Ruprecht, panamaican, irish_thug



    Requirements
    -Both posters involved in the bet must have either an account that's been around over 1 year or over 1000 posts. A poster previously registered in a WR Election can automatically qualify as well. Exceptions can be given but shouldn't be expected.
    -If at any time, a poster is overextended with open bets, future bets can be rejected until the result. Posters can ask me at any time whether this is the case to avoid finding out as they are trying to make a new bet.

    Rankings/Records
    -Records will be maintained as bets are called. Rankings will have the most accurate information but I will attempt to have information between threads about informal current records in between threads.
    -With every ten bets that are decided (not including null/draws), a new thread will be made with updated rankings.
    -The rankings will include a champion based on who has the highest score based on the bets previously officiated through this thread
    -The score applied to each poster will be based on ranking in opponent faced, duration of the reward/punishment of bets made, type of bet made (name, av, and/or, sig), and how new/old the resolved bet is. Due to limitations, the longest duration of a bet will be capped at 5 years.
    -The poster who is crowned the champ will be considered champ until the time new rankings dethrone them from the top spot. During the time of their reign, their record and score will be accounted for historical perspective and comparisons of each title reign. Please keep in mind that beating the current champ does not dethrone them necessarily or crown yourself as the champ.
    -Any accounts that are seen not serving out their name, avatar, and/or signature bet punishment will be assigned an asterisk to their name and removed from future rankings. The asterisk will be removed once the account serves the punishments they promised to honor in the thread but they will only be restored in the rankings once those prior obligated punishments are fulfilled completely. In other words, honor all your bets and you should be fine. Any complaints about another poster not honoring their bet needs to be submitted promptly in the thread for the asterisk against the poster to be considered or the dispute regarding the punishment resolved.


    Previous Threads

    The War Room Bet Thread
    The War Room Bet Thread v2 (10 bets)
    The War Room Bet Thread v3 (20 bets)
    The War Room Bet Thread v4 (30 bets)
     
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  2. Lead /Led/ like the blanket Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Rankings (40 Bets)
    C- @Jack V Savage (7-0)
    #1- @waiguoren (8-3)
    #2- @oleDirtyBast4rd (1-0)
    #3- @PolarBearPaulVarelans (1-0)
    #4- @HereticBD (2-0)
    #5- @Lowmanproblems (1-0)
    #6- @Amerikuracana (1-0)
    #7- @HUNTERMANIA (1-0)
    #8- @IGIT (1-0)
    #9T- @Tropodan (1-0)
    #9T- @ObamaPhoneLady (1-0)
    #11- @Space (1-0)
    #12- @Rex Kwon Do (1-0)
    #13- @Hans Gruber (2-0)
    #14- @Quipling (1-1)
    #15- @Lead (3-3)
    #16- @HomerThompson (2-4)
    (17 bettors are unlisted as they are without wins and 2 bettors are unlisted for not honoring the punishment of their prior bet)

    *Signifies current dispute about serving out a bet punishment. Results in drop from future ranking if not addressed beforehand

    WR Bet Champion Lineage (Record during reign)

    1st- @Amerikuracana (0-0)
    2nd- @Jack V Savage (2-0)
    3rd- @waiguoren (1-2)
    4th- @Jack V Savage
     
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  3. Lead /Led/ like the blanket Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    #26. @HereticBD v. @VivaRevolution
    1. Bernie Sanders will win the 2020 Presidential Election
    2. VivaRevolution- for, HereticBD- against
    3. 11/04/2020
    4. Avatar & Signature bet
    5. HereticBD win=Viva's Av/Sig for 1 month; Viva win= HereticBD Av/Sig for 1 year

    #34. @VivaRevolution v. @Rob Battisti
    1. Trump will win the 2020 presidential election
    2. Rob Battisti- For, VivaRevolution- against
    3. 11/7/2020 (tentatively)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 3 months

    #37. @xcvbn vs. @Hunter Simpson v. @Quipling
    1. Company A in the (probably) sealed subpoena case that went to SCOTUS is owned by this country:
    2. @xcvbn - Israel @Hunter Simpson - Turkey @Quipling - Qatar
    4. Avatar
    5. 1 month
    6. If Company A is not owned by any of the named companies, the bet is null.
    7. Other parties may join the betting pool if they select an unnamed country and current participants approve.

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    #41. @Yorkist v. @Serenity Now
    1. Trump will win the 2020 Presidential Election
    2. Yorkist- for, Serenity Now- against
    3. 11/04/2020 (tentative)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month

    #43. @bobgeese v. @waiguoren
    1. Nikki Haley will be the 2024 Republican nominee for president.
    2. @waiguoren - against @bobgeese - for
    3. Official Announcement at the 2024 Republican National Convention (around July 2024)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year

    #44. @Cunningham v. @waiguoren
    1. Donald Trump will win the 2020 election for president.
    2. @waiguoren - against @Cunningham - for
    3. November 9, 2020
    4. Sig and av bet
    5. 1 year
    6. The bet is only valid if Peter Buttigieg or Bernard Sanders is the Democratic nominee for president on election day 2020. If Trump doesn't run for whatever reason, bet is void.

    #45. @HockeyBjj v. @PolishHeadlock2
    1. Tulsi Gabbard will be on at least one state ballot for the 2020 presidential election as a third party candidate
    2. @PolishHeadlock2 - for, @HockeyBjj- against
    3. 11/07/2020
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 2 months
    6. Write in votes do not count as being on the ballot


    #46. @Crazy Diamond v. @Richie Madano
    1. Donald Trump will serve a 2nd term as President of the United States
    2. @Richie Madano - for, @Crazy Diamond - against
    3. Tentatively Jan 20, 2021 (Inauguration day)
    4. Avatar Or Signature Bet (Winners choice)
    5. 3 Months
    6. In the event Trump dies during his first term, the bet is null

    #47. @sickc0d3r v @HereticBD
    1. Donald Trump will not be elected for a second term in the 2020 presidential election
    2. sickc0d3r- for, HereticBD- against
    3. 11/04/2020 (tentatively based on when results come in)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 month

    #48. @HockeyBjj v. @kenetics
    1. Bitcoin will hit 20k US Dollars on or before April 24th 2021
    2. @kenetics for, @HockeyBjj against
    3. 04/24/2021 or if Bitcoin hits 20k before then
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 2 months
    6. Price determined by “Morningstar for currency and coinbase for crypto currency”. That’s what google uses when you simply google “Bitcoin price”

    #49. @Prokofievian v. @Richie Madano
    1. Donald Trump will win the 2020 election by a margin of at least 78 or more electoral votes.
    2. @Richie Madano - For, @Prokofievian - Against
    3. 11/04/2020 tentatively (Election day)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 3 months
    6a. If Trump isn’t on the ballot for 2020, the bet is null.
    6b. We will assume there are no rogue electoral votes and they will vote as assigned by their state.
    6c. If Election Day is moved to a later date, the bet is null unless the participants have it re-approved.
    6d. The margin above is based on the opposing candidate that receives the 2nd most electoral votes in the event Trump wins.

    #50. @Jack V Savage v @HereticBD
    1. The winner of the 2020 presidential election will be ________
    2. @Jack V Savage - Joe Biden @HereticBD - Donald Trump
    3. 11/03/2020 (Tentatively)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 2 months
    6. The bet will be settled when any of the three main networks (NBC, ABC, CBS) call a winner of the election as this will be assumed as the eventual official winner.

    #51. @HockeyBjj v. @kpt018
    1. Donald Trump will have a 3rd SCOTUS nominee confirmed by the Senate
    2. @kpt018- for, @HockeyBjj- against
    3. Tentatively on or before 01/20/2020
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    6a. If Trump wins the 2020 general election and a nominee hasn't been confirmed, the bet is null.
    6b. The punishment will not overlap with the punishment for the WR fantasy football league and will be served after that one is satisfied, if necessary.

    #52. @Jack V Savage v @giusti825
    1. The winner of the 2020 Presidential Election Popular Vote will be _________
    2. @Jack V Savage - Biden @giusti825 - Trump
    3. 11/03/2020 (Tentatively)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 months
     
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  4. Lead /Led/ like the blanket Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    #10 @VivaRevolution v. @Jack V Savage
    1. Trump will be at 33% or more with Bovada's betting odds
    2. VivaRevolution- For, Jack V Savage- Against
    3. 11/07/16 8:00PM ESt
    4. Signature bet
    5. 11/08/16-12/07/16
    *I will use this site to convert the betting odds to percentages http://sportsbettingsites.org/betting-tools/no-vig-calculator/'
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #1 @Fawlty v. @Tropodan (Onesided)
    1. Donald Trump wins general election
    2. Tropodan, for. Fawlty, against.
    3. 11/08/2016
    4. If Trump wins the general election, Fawlty wears av of Tropodan's choosing. Freeroll (no punishment if Tropodan loses).
    5. 11/08/2016-01/20/2017
    Winner: Tropodan

    #4 @Space v. @Lead
    1. Donald Trump wins the general election
    2. Space- for, Lead- against
    3. 11/08/2016
    4. Signature bet- winner picks losers signature
    5. 11/08/2016-01/20/2017 (Election day to Inauguration day)
    Winner: Space

    #7 @Quipling v. @Rex Kwon Do
    1. Winner of the U.S. Presidential Election
    2. Quipling : Hillary - Rex :Trump
    3. 11/08/16
    4. Av Bet- Loser of the bet changes his av to a suitably presidential picture of the winning candidate
    5.11/09/16- 12/09/16
    Winner: Rex Kwon Do

    #9 @m52nickerson v @Hans Gruber
    1. The winner of Florida's 29 electoral votes.
    2. @m52nickerson - Clinton will win, @Hans Gruber - Trump will win.
    3. 11/08/16 (tentatively)
    Winner: Hans Gruber

    #12 @Limbo Pete v. @Lead
    1. Who wins Nevada and Colorado in the 2016 Presidential Election
    2. Limbo Pete- Nevada Trump/ Colorado Clinton, Lead- Colorado Trump / Nevada Clinton
    3. 11/09/2016
    4. Signature bet
    5. 01/21/2017-02/21/2017
    6. Obviously if both states go Clinton or Trump, the bet is null
    Null

    #13 @Hans Gruber v. @Lead
    1. Trump will win Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania in the 2016 Presidential election
    2. Hans - For, Lead- Against
    3. 11/09/2016
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 11/9/2016-12/9/2016
    Winner: Hans Gruber

    #14 @BKMMAFAN v. @Amerikuracana
    1. Who wins Michigan in the 2016 Presidential Election?
    2. BKMMAFAN- Clinton, Amerikuracana- Trump
    3. 11/8/16 (tentatively)
    4. Signature and Avatar Bet
    5. 3 months, likely 11/09/16-2/09/16
    Winner: Amerikuracana

    #2 @waiguoren v. @m52nickerson
    1. Compare total discrepancies over four swing states (Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina)
    [​IMG]
    where each i indexes one of the states, the p's are the predicted Clinton lead in each state and the a's are the actual Clinton lead in each state.
    2. Whoever (Waiguoren using his prediction posted before noon on election day or m52nickeson with fivethirtyeight projected vote share polls plus for his prediction election day) has the smaller sum (using the equation above) wins.
    3. 11/08/2016 (Election day) or slightly after depending on results coming in
    4. Signature bet- winner picks losers signature
    5. 11/08/2016 (expected based on #3) to 01/20/2016
    Winner: waiguoren

    #5 @Concurrent GOAT v. @Rex Kwon Do
    1. Percent Margin Donald Trump beats Clinton by in US Pres. election popular vote
    2. Concurrent GOAT 0.1% to 2.0% Rex Kwon Doh 2.0%+
    3. 11/08/16
    4. Avatar bet- Winner picks the losers av
    5. 11/09/16-12/08/16 (Depends when the results are completely in)
    Null

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    #6 @KnightTemplar v. @Rex Kwon Do
    1. Percent Margin Donald Trump beats Clinton by in the US Pres. election popular vote
    2. @KnightTemplar 0.1% to 2.0% @Rex Kwon Do 2.0%+
    3. 11/08/16
    4. Signature bet- Winner picks the loser's signature; signature chosen must be quote praising Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer of Germany OR a quote by Adolf Hitler himself
    5. 11/09/16-12/08/16 (Depends when the results are completely in)
    Null

    #8 @waiguoren v. @cooks1
    1. National Popular vote margin with Clinton/Trump will be b>
    2. Waiguoren- For Cooks1- Against
    3. 1/21/16 (Day after inauguration day)
    4. Signature Bet
    5. 01/21/16 to next US Presidential election day
    6. If Clinton simultaneously wins the popular vote by over 6.4%, but loses on the electoral map and Trump is elected on that basis, the bet will be void, as Hillary did get over 6.4% of the popular vote, but she did not win by 6.4% of the popular vote
    Winner: waiguoren

    #11 @Jack V Savage v. @LucasWithLidOff
    1. Hillary Clinton will be indicted by 12/28/2016
    2. LucasWithLidOff- For, Jack V Savage- Against
    3. 12/29/16
    4. Avatar Bet
    5. Permanent
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #3 @Jack V Savage v. @mcveteran81
    1. Obama will still be president a week after the scheduled inauguration date due to declaring a state of emergency
    2. mcveteran- True Jack V Savage- False
    3. 1/27/2017 (week after scheduled inauguration day)
    4. Signature bet- Winner picks the loser's signature
    5. 1/28/2017-2/27/2017
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #18 @SidJustice v. @waiguoren
    1. Neil Gorsuch will not be confirmed to the Supreme Court on or before 4/7/2017
    2. SidJustice: Agree/ waiguoren: Disagree
    3. 4/8/2017
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year
    Winnner: waiguoren

    #15 @Jack V Savage vs. @drstrangelov
    1. Trump's favorability rating Real Clear Politics average is 51.8 before Labor Day
    2. drstanglov- For, Jack V Savage- against
    3. 09/04/2017 (Labor Day)
    4. Hybrid- Jack's avatar or Drstranglovs sig
    5. 1 month (tentatively 09/04/17-10/03/17)
    6. Attempted or successful assassination of Trump or attack by foreign government or there is pending or concluded vote on authorization for military action before his rating goes up, the bet is null
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #20. @Fawlty v. @HomerThompson
    1. Flynn, Stone, Manafort, Page, Kushner, Don Jr, Eric, President Trump, Ivanka, Sessions, DeVos, Preibus, Ryan, Pruitt, Pompeo, Bannon, or Perry will be formally criminally indicted by 23:59 EST 15 June 2018
    2. @HomerThompson- 2 or more indicted, @Fawlty- 1 will be indicted, Tie- 0 are indicted
    3. 06/15/18
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    Winner: HomerThompson

    #22. @Quipling v. @N13
    1. Moore or Jones will be sworn in as Senator
    2. Quipling- Jones, @N13- Moore
    3. When either person is sworn in as Senator
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: Quipling

    #23. @Lead v. @N13
    1. Moore or Jones will be sworn in as Senator
    2. @Lead- Jones, @N13- Moore
    3. When either person is sworn in as Senator
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: Lead

    #19. @waiguoren v. @konagold
    1. President Donald Trump resigns or is impeached on or before June 2, 2018
    2. @konagold - for @waiguoren- against
    3. 06/09/2018
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year (est 6/9/18-6/8/19)
    Winner: waiguoren
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    #32. @Lead v. @JamesRussler
    1. Democrats will win 209 seats or more in the 2018 Midterm Election
    2. Lead- for, JamesRussler- against
    3. 11/07/2018 (tentative, races could take longer to call)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    *Party seats are determined by who caucuses with a party if there are independent candidates that win.

    Winner: Lead

    #27. @HomerThompson v. @JamesRussler
    1 & 2. 2018 Midterm Election results- James wins if (1) Republicans retain at least 218 seats in the House and (2) gain net 9 seats in the Senate (i.e. 60 seats total). Homer wins if (1) Democrats reach 218 seats or more in the House and (2) lose under 8 seats in the Senate.
    3. 11/07/2018 (tentative, races could take longer to call)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 2 months (tentatively 11/07/18-01/06/19)
    6. In the situation, neither of the two events happen, the bet is null
    Winner: HomerThompson


    #38. @SBJJ v. @GOATER
    1. Beto O'Rourke wins Texas in the 2018 midterms
    2. GOATER- for, SBJJ- against
    3. 11/07/2018 (tentatively)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 6 months
    Winner: SBJJ

    #37. @waiguoren v. @Jack V Savage
    1. Democrat Katie Hill will defeat Republican Steve Knight in the 2018 House of Representatives race for California's 25th Congressional district.
    2. Jack V Savage for, waiguoren against
    3. When the California Secretary of State certifies the results of the 2018 Congressional elections.
    4. Sig bet
    5. 3 months
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #33. @44nutman v. @HereticBD
    1. Trump being charged with Money Laundering by Jan 1st, 2019
    2. @44nutman for, @HereticBD against
    3. 01/01/2019
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: HereticBD

    #35. @waiguoren v. @Pelosi2016
    1. Either Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders will declare a candidacy for president for the 2020 US presidential election.
    2. waiguoren for; Pelosi2016 against
    3. Election day 2020, or whenever one of Sanders/Biden files the requisite paperwork (whichever occurs first)
    4. Name bet
    5. 1 year
    Winner: waiguroen

    #30. @Jack V Savage v. @SBJJ
    1. Commerce Department's second estimate for 2018 Real GDP growth will be 2.90% or lower
    2. Jack V- For, SBJJ- Against
    3. Tentatively 02/28/19
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    6. We will be able to pull the result from here: https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/news_release_sort_national.htm
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #29. @waiguoren v. @PolishHeadlock
    1. The Mueller investigation will indict Trump and accuse Trump of committing a crime to EITHER
    a) cooperate with / help Russia carry out the DNC/DCCC/Clinton office hack
    OR
    b) offer Russia concessions (policy, money, etc) in exchange for the fruits of one of the hacks above
    2. PolishHeadlock- for, waiguoren- against
    3. When the Mueller investigation concludes
    4. Avatar and Signature bet
    5. 5 years
    6. Null if Mueller is fired or Trump unexpectedly passes
    *Lead, Zankou, and panamaican will make the call on the bet when the investigation concludes.
    Winner: waiguoren

    #17 @waiguoren v. @rj144
    1. Trump will win the 2020 Presidential Election
    2. Waiguoren- for rj144- against
    3. 11/04/2020
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year
    6. Bet is null if Trump doesn't run in 2020 or pulls out of race regardless of the reason why
    Cancelled

    #39. @JamesRussler v. @Lowmanproblems
    1. Within 6 months, DOJ will announce indictments for ANY of Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Ohr, Page, Yates, Lynch, Obama, Brennan, Clapper, or other government officials of the “Russia Collusion” investigation
    2. For- JamesRussler, Against- Lowmanproblems
    3. 10/16/19
    4. Avatar bet (specific avs dealing with candidate choice)
    5. 3 months
    6a. If lowman loses, the avatar is Trump with MAGA hat, If JamesRussler loses, the avatar is a candidate of Lowman's choice.
    6b. Due to the language of the bet, the bet winner will only be decided if both participants agree who won. In the event they disagree who won, the bet will be null.
    Winner: lowmanproblems

    #31. @waiguoren v. @andnowweknow
    1. Roger Stone will be indicted and convicted on at least one charge brought by Robert Mueller's team for Trump/Russia coordination/collusion/conspiracy.
    2. andnowweknow- for, waiguoren- against
    3. At the conclusion of Stone's trial, if it happens. If not, at the end of the Mueller investigation.
    4. Sig bet
    5. 10 months
    6. The conviction needs to be for coordination/collusion/conspiracy between Trump/Russia. For example: treason, conspiracy to defraud the USA, or conspiracy to commit an offense against the USA by coordinating with the Russian state would all give the win to andnowweknow. Tax fraud as in the Manafort case would not count. Perjury would not count. If Stone signs a plea agreement for any reason, the bet is a push.
    *Lead also reserves the right to have participants add two additional mods to decide who won if it's contested.
    Winner: waiguoren
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    #16 @Lead v. @HUNTERMANIA
    1. Trump will be impeached during his first term as President
    2. HUNTERMANIA- for , Lead- against
    3. End of Trump's term or if he is impeached beforehand
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    6. If Trump is removed from office from illness, death, or assassination, the bet will be null
    Winner: HUNTERMANIA

    #21. @HomerThompson v @oleDirtyBast4rd
    1. Trump is removed from office on or before December 31st, 2019
    2. HomerThompson- for, oleDirtyBast4rd- against
    3. 01/01/2020
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year
    6. Death and physical illness would result in a null bet. Mental illness and subsequent removal would count.
    Winner: oleDirtyBast4rd

    #24. @HomerThompson v @Lead
    1. Trump is removed from office on or before December 31st, 2019
    2. HomerThompson- for, Lead- against
    3. 01/01/2020
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    6. Death and physical illness would result in a null bet. Mental illness and subsequent removal would count.
    Winner: Lead

    #25. @waiguoren v @HomerThompson
    1. Trump is removed from office on or before December 31st, 2019
    2. HomerThompson- for, waiguoren- against
    3. 01/01/2020
    4. Sig bet
    5. 6 months
    6. Death and physical illness would result in a null bet. Mental illness and subsequent removal would count.
    Winner: waiguoren

    #28. @HomerThompson v. @IGIT
    1. Within 18 months of Trump's new justice being appointed, the supreme court will allow individual states to outlaw abortion.
    2. HomerThompson - For, IGIT - Against
    3. Tentatively 18 months once the Trump justice is confirmed (04/06/2020)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 2 months
    6. If Trump isn't able to get an appointee confirmed, the bet is null
    Winner: IGIT

    #36. @waiguoren v. @Trotsky
    1. Michael Avenatti or Cory Booker will be the 2020 Democratic nominee for president.
    2. waiguoren: Avenatti, Trotsky: Cory Booker
    3. The day of the 2020 Democratic National Convention
    4. Name bet
    5. 1 year
    6. If neither man is the 2020 Democratic nominee for president, the bet is a push.
    Null

    #40. @waiguoren v. @PolarBearPaulVarelans
    1. Bernard Sanders or Joseph Biden will be the 2020 Democratic nominee for US president.
    2. PolarBear- Biden, waiguoren- Sanders
    3. The day of 2020 Democratic National Convention
    4. Avatar and Signature bet
    5. 2 Months
    6. If neither man is the 2020 Democratic nominee for president, the bet will be a push.
    Winner: PolarBearPaulVarelans

    #42. @waiguoren v. @HereticBD
    1. Joseph Biden will be the 2020 Democratic nominee for president.
    2. @waiguoren- against @HereticBD -for
    3. 2020 Democratic National Convention (Tentatively 7/16/20)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    Winner: HereticBD

    #46. @Rockapotomuss v. @Jack V Savage
    1. Hillary Clinton will be in the 2020 Democratic race for president, before or during the Democratic National Convention, by either filing her 2020 candidacy with the FEC or by receiving 300+ delegate/super delegate votes on a single ballot at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.
    2. @Rockapotomuss : for, @Jack V Savage : against
    3. Tentatively 07/16/2020 or when Clinton files for a candidacy with the FEC (whichever comes first)
    4. Signature bet.
    5. 3 months
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #38. @VivaRevolution v. @Yorkist
    1. Donald Trump will lose in the Republican primary or not run for a second term.
    2. VivaRevolution- for, Yorkist- against
    3. Tentative (if Trump announces he isn't running or when a Republican nomination is secured)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: Yorkist
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  6. Lead /Led/ like the blanket Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Carry on
     
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    Still waiting for @Jack V Savage to provide any post where he alleges I refused any terms on our very simple bet. Damn, it's almost like he was lying, or something...

    Also, how am I, a 2-0 juggernaut phenom, the likes of which have never been seen before, behind some 1-0 cans in the standings? Maybe it was explained in that blue wall of not reading that shit, but is there a simple reason for that?
     
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    The bets are weighted by a few things:
    Type (Name is worth more than Av which is worth more than Sig)
    Length (6 month bet is worth more than a 1 month bet)
    Opponent (Betting the champ or someone in the top ten in the rankings is worth more than someone outside of it)
     
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    I'd also add the drop off in score after the first two names is still a pretty wide gap.
     
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    You know you kept backing out. I'd have to post whole conversations.

    Now, ready to admit that you know that Trump will embarrass himself in the debates and that's why you're not betting and why you made up that ludicrous excuse about the offer being vague?
     
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    Ah', understood. I have been padding my record with trash bags, but I'm taking on the champ now! You're looking at the next big thing.
     
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    Pfft...pathetic concession accepted. You simply can't provide one post of me backing out of anything, because you were lying your ass off when you accused me, both in real time, and now. In fact, the whole interaction is just me agreeing to the original, oh' so complicated bet of who wins the election, while you looked for any angle to get out of it. It was one big circular argument, where you finally just settled on the very simplistic and straight forward stipulations of "If Trump wins, I win. If Biden wins, you win", because I disarmed all of your squirming.
     
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    No.

    Remember when you ducked a very simple bet about the polling move after the first debate by pretending to think it was vague? :)
     
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    Your one win actually was with the champ at the time (Wai) so that did move you up a lot. It’s just Polarbear also beat Wai and oledirty did a long bet with Homer who was in top 5.
     
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    Duck what? I've given my reasons why it would be a clusterfuck with anyone, let alone you. You're just desperately trying to save face, over some irrelevant bet that was never agreed to(since it's dumb), because you know what's coming in November, because you're realizing you were overconfident when you finally(I offered you the bet several times before the pandemic, but you claimed Sherdog bets were worthless) decided to put your precious sig on the line.

    Still waiting for the posts that are easily available, where you claimed I backed out of our very simple bet. Guess you were lying about that, huh? Put up or shut up, Jackie Boy.
     
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    I might just have to rock a Randy Orton Av, and change my name to "The Legend Killer" when I stomp Jack's guts out in November.
     
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    I have half a mind to bet someone that you two will settle on a goddamn bet
     
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    We have. It took a looooong time, but we did it.

    As for future bets, I'd bet against it. Whether it's me not caring for the proposed bet, or Jackie presenting an infinite number of variables and stipulations to an agreed upon proposed bet, the odds of us ever getting anything done ever again, are very, very slim.
     
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