The victim in Conors rape case being investigated was brutalized, Conor later said it was consensual

[thehighking]

Witnesses to what though?

If it was to an actual rape he'd have been charged a long time ago, and reports suggest he is saying it was consentual so a witness saying they were together adds nothing.

That's not true. The police have sent a file to the Director of Public Prosecutions who will decide if there is enough evidence to charge Mcgregor. This takes months before a decision is made

 

[sometimesmaybe]

But he has power in so many ways. He is a famous, rich person known for his fighting skills. He is the pinnacle of a young person's dream which is an ass kicker who is worldly recognize and rich for it.

That and he can hook up with L.A 10s if he wants since he is not a bad looking guy and it's not like he was a former incel since he talked about being bullied and hated at school because he stole dudes girlfriends. Also Dee is a decent looking chick who worked to support conors dream.


The motive of having power rape don't make sense because he has zero reason for him to do that. I say he was super fucked up on drugs.

Power rape makes more sense than anything really if you go off the reports that he made advances, she turned him down and slapped him in front of his friends. With that disrespect and conor being someone who presumably hates being told no and feels like he can do whatever he wants would want nothing more tgan to take that power back. I say presumably because none of us know conor personally and as ive stated before im not gonna judge until theres more reported. What i wrote is an example of what theoretically may have happened and why if it did it would be due to him wanting that power.

 

[Judge Lance Ito]

This ten year thing is laughable. Ireland has the most lenient sentences in the world. Average murderer is out of jail after 9 years.

This one caught my eye recently. This scumbag gets only 3.5 years for attempting to knock down a cop! And check out his priors.

https://www.thejournal.ie/john-cash...-jailed-for-driving-at-garda-4564049-Mar2019/

A MAN PREVIOUSLY jailed for knocking down and killing two French tourists has been sentenced to three and a half years in prison for driving at a garda while trying to escape arrest for burglary.

John Cash (37) was jailed for eight years in 2008 after he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing the death of friends Martine Talon (54) and Martine Liotard (53) on the Kylemore Road in Dublin on 16 May 2007.

The court heard during that sentencing hearing, before the late Judge Katherine Delahunt, that Cash had drank 14 cans of cider, a bottle of whiskey and taken Prozac tablets before driving the car.

He had been banned for driving for 20 years the previous year after he was convicted of dangerous driving.



Cash of North Circular Road, Dublin, pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to burglary at Aldi, Old Lucan Road, Palmerstown Lower and dangerous driving on 3 December 2017. He has 30 additional previous convictions which were all dealt with in the District Court and he was disqualified from driving at the time.

‘Callous act’

Garda Barry O’Shea told Eoghan Cole BL, prosecuting, that he was alerted to the fact that a burglary was in progress at Aldi when he saw Cash outside the premises. Cash ran towards his own car when he spotted the patrol car.

Garda O’Shea approached him and drew his baton. Cash revved the engine of his vehicle and the garda smashed the windscreen with the baton.

Cash then drove the car directly at Garda O’Shea causing him to jump out of the way to avoid getting injured.

He then drove into Garda O’Shea’s patrol car, moving the vehicle out of his way, to facilitate his getaway.



Judge Martin Nolan described it as a “callous act”. He said had Cash just burgled the premises and not driven at the garda he would have given “a substantially less sentence”.

“In his attempt to escape he put a garda in danger,” Judge Nolan said before he commented that Cash had behaved in this way “despite the fact that he had previously pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing the death of two people”.

He acknowledged that Cash co-operated with the garda investigation, made admissions and was remorseful for his behaviour.

‘Not a person beyond reform’

Judge Nolan accepted that Cash had a difficult mental history and addictions to both drugs and alcohol. He disqualified Cash from driving for four years and sentenced him to three and a half years in prison.

Garda O’Shea said a colleague later arrested Cash, following a brief chase, after the burglar lost control of his own vehicle while attempting to turn into nearby Palmerstown village.



Cash said in an interview that he had little recollection of the burglary but accepted he was at the premises and that he had driven his car in that manner.

He said his role was to keep watch outside the premises and Garda O’Shea confirmed that CCTV footage from the store showed this was the case.

He said Cash and an accomplice, who has never been caught, used a car jack and a hammer to smash a window in the shop before the other man entered the premises.

David Staunton BL, defending said his client acknowledged that he was wrong and was very regretful. He said he had been out of prison since 2014 and submitted to the judge that he was “not a person beyond reform”.

“He is acutely aware of his behaviour and wishes to amend his ways,” counsel submitted.

 

[Zaar]

I apologise if you felt attacked by my post.
There are quite a few who have made up their minds allready that is true.

I hope you are/were kidding about ancient aliens. I don't want to asaume. That series has been thoughrowly and completely debunked. It is absolutely fair to say that they are knowingly lying about almost everything they say.

It is demonstrably wrong.

Nah, man, it's fine, I didn't get offended

Not fully, no.
While I did watch it quite some time ago, even then (without later seeing some of the debunked things (I haven't seen all) I looked at it just like "another point of view that may or might not be true".
That was my point regarding that, never take anything to be 100% true (or less, in that case).
But it can be fun and whatever makes you think, even for a bit, can't be THAT bad

 

[fightfan84]

It's a really shitty situation.

And it's a sad state of affairs, but it is just as plausible, if not more plausible for a girl to have sex with someone as rich and famous as Conor only to wake up and start to feel the temptation of life changing money, especially when a friend starts to egg them on.....

Hell, plenty of women have falsely claimed rape for far less tempting reasons like the guy didn't call them withing a couple of days, embarrassment that the guy was a ugly bastard or maybe the bragged to his friends and caused humiliation.

Truth is none of us know, if she's lying then this is a potentially life destroying allegation for Conor who even if he never gets charged will forever have to deal with this shit, likewise if it's true then this girl not only had to suffer from the attack but also has to deal with being accused of lying about it.

This is why the New York times and the Irish papers who strongly hinted months ago should be held accountable for even reporting the case until charges or even better a conviction.

She had a tampon surgically removed from her cervix

Yep. I've met girls into all sorts of freaky shit too. My buddy's ex wanted him to slap her, and she kept asking for harder face slaps to the point where he felt like he was just beating the shit out of her lol.

But anyway, it's a pretty big deal to me that this girl wasn't smart enough to know where she was/where she was going. That is a major sign of low credibility IMO. She was either too drunk or high or too stupid to know where she was. And drunk/high/stupid girls obviously shouldn't be trusted.

But she had a tampon rammed into her cervix. Imagine that was your mother or sister or daughter

 

[thehighking]

Blood “all over” her clothes? Where did you see that?

Edit:
Ass fucked? Where did you read this?

The police took her bloodstained clothing as evidence and she was brought to hospital in an ambulance according to reports in the newspapers

 

[crysis]

why would anyone be surprised if this is true, i can see conor doing this type of shit, getting all messed up on drinks and drugs, and pulling a mike tyson type of scenario, giving the benefit of the doubt that he's innocent is only natural but the truth is its very possible this happened and the women is telling the truth only time will tell.

 

[Mob69]

The man is a coke fiend. He could well be totally guilty.

 

[fightfan84]

This ten year thing is laughable. Ireland has the most lenient sentences in the world. Average murderer is out of jail after 9 years.

This one caught my eye recently. This scumbag gets only 3.5 years for attempting to knock down a cop! And check out his priors.

https://www.thejournal.ie/john-cash...-jailed-for-driving-at-garda-4564049-Mar2019/

A MAN PREVIOUSLY jailed for knocking down and killing two French tourists has been sentenced to three and a half years in prison for driving at a garda while trying to escape arrest for burglary.

John Cash (37) was jailed for eight years in 2008 after he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing the death of friends Martine Talon (54) and Martine Liotard (53) on the Kylemore Road in Dublin on 16 May 2007.

The court heard during that sentencing hearing, before the late Judge Katherine Delahunt, that Cash had drank 14 cans of cider, a bottle of whiskey and taken Prozac tablets before driving the car.

He had been banned for driving for 20 years the previous year after he was convicted of dangerous driving.



Cash of North Circular Road, Dublin, pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to burglary at Aldi, Old Lucan Road, Palmerstown Lower and dangerous driving on 3 December 2017. He has 30 additional previous convictions which were all dealt with in the District Court and he was disqualified from driving at the time.

‘Callous act’

Garda Barry O’Shea told Eoghan Cole BL, prosecuting, that he was alerted to the fact that a burglary was in progress at Aldi when he saw Cash outside the premises. Cash ran towards his own car when he spotted the patrol car.

Garda O’Shea approached him and drew his baton. Cash revved the engine of his vehicle and the garda smashed the windscreen with the baton.

Cash then drove the car directly at Garda O’Shea causing him to jump out of the way to avoid getting injured.

He then drove into Garda O’Shea’s patrol car, moving the vehicle out of his way, to facilitate his getaway.



Judge Martin Nolan described it as a “callous act”. He said had Cash just burgled the premises and not driven at the garda he would have given “a substantially less sentence”.

“In his attempt to escape he put a garda in danger,” Judge Nolan said before he commented that Cash had behaved in this way “despite the fact that he had previously pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing the death of two people”.

He acknowledged that Cash co-operated with the garda investigation, made admissions and was remorseful for his behaviour.

‘Not a person beyond reform’

Judge Nolan accepted that Cash had a difficult mental history and addictions to both drugs and alcohol. He disqualified Cash from driving for four years and sentenced him to three and a half years in prison.

Garda O’Shea said a colleague later arrested Cash, following a brief chase, after the burglar lost control of his own vehicle while attempting to turn into nearby Palmerstown village.



Cash said in an interview that he had little recollection of the burglary but accepted he was at the premises and that he had driven his car in that manner.

He said his role was to keep watch outside the premises and Garda O’Shea confirmed that CCTV footage from the store showed this was the case.

He said Cash and an accomplice, who has never been caught, used a car jack and a hammer to smash a window in the shop before the other man entered the premises.

David Staunton BL, defending said his client acknowledged that he was wrong and was very regretful. He said he had been out of prison since 2014 and submitted to the judge that he was “not a person beyond reform”.

“He is acutely aware of his behaviour and wishes to amend his ways,” counsel submitted.

His name is John cash though .automatically gets time off his sentence

 

[Captain Herb]

I skimmed that. Didn't see anything saying she mentioned him by name. She gave statement of what happened to her. That doesn't mean she named him. Maybe you can copy/paste that part, if I missed it.

Detectives have established:

• The woman met the sports star in a south Dublin village while socialising
  
  
• She travelled in an SUV to a city centre hotel
  
  
• A group went to a hotel room where cocaine and alcohol was consumed during a party
  
  
• At some point between 12 midnight and 3am on Monday morning she alleges she was raped
  
  
• She has identified the sports star to gardai
  
  
• A forensic examination showed she suffered serious injuries
  
  
• The woman is a mother of a young child and is in a relationship with another man
  

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

You can't just discount drug use though. Watch anyone that is coked out of their mind, they are no longer "normal".
It's very easy to imagine the situation & setting. Coked out of your mind, partying until late at night, special hotel premises booked out specially for gangster masculine entourage and "girls invited to the party" probably to get drugged/drunk then sex happening.

I can very well imagine this girl, who got invited to "a cool party" by one of her friends, then ending up in a situation where she is getting choked and sodomized because she didn't play along.

People this is why all of you that have good looking daughters...Don't think its a good idea if she gets invited to a rich guy party. Lets not be under any pretense of what is sought after here....These girls are considered de facto whores...Girl found herself in a bad situation surrounded by bad men.

Well you're preaching to the wrong one here. I've been up for days, coked out before, and never thought of doing anything fucked up like that. Trust me bro, if he was that coked up, he wouldn't have been able to get it up, to commit the rape in the first place. I have to believe that it's more than that, and he's just a shitty person.

 

[B ville Famous]

The police took her bloodstained clothing as evidence and she was brought to hospital in an ambulance according to reports in the newspapers

Exactly. It doesn’t say there was blood “all over her clothes” like you wrote.

 

[sometimesmaybe]

You said “Hospital/police said she was shaken and very distraught, like a clear rape victim. These are not things you fake.”

So you wrote that girls don’t fake being a distraught rape victim, and then after that you said that some girls do fake being a rape victim.

So I dno what you’re saying lol

You are correct. You dont know what im saying because im not the person who said that. Its ok, i get that theres like a million replies at a time on this thread. In my opinion everyone should literally only be saying theyre gonna wait for more info before judging conor or the female becayse with whats been released its either opinion, unreliable sources or not enough to form a complete opinion on what happened

 

[Repsac]

Detectives have established:

• The woman met the sports star in a south Dublin village while socialising
  
  
• She travelled in an SUV to a city centre hotel
  
  
• A group went to a hotel room where cocaine and alcohol was consumed during a party
  
  
• At some point between 12 midnight and 3am on Monday morning she alleges she was raped
  
  
• She has identified the sports star to gardai
  
  
• A forensic examination showed she suffered serious injuries
  
  
• The woman is a mother of a young child and is in a relationship with another man

Thanks. Missed that line.

 

[SherdogJoe]

You are correct. You dont know what im saying because im not the person who said that. Its ok, i get that theres like a million replies at a time on this thread. In my opinion everyone should literally only be saying theyre gonna wait for more info before judging conor or the female becayse with whats been released its either opinion, unreliable sources or not enough to form a complete opinion on what happened

Yeah sorry I just realized I got you mized up with someone else.

But yeah I'm taking the neurtral position just like you suggest. All these other morons are hating on Conor and assuming he's guilty.

 

[B ville Famous]

The fact that Conor admitted to fucking this broad upped the ante. It wouldn't be the same as saying this is all rumors where Conor is denying ever sleeping with her and it's all a mix up or somebody else. If it was anybody else in his crew I'm sure he wouldn't announced retirement and the guilty party would have to own up to it. Conor would be the last person in the crew who they would pin it on.

I think this chick is telling the truth and I know women lie especially about high profile athletes but on the other hand a lot of these high profile people have a complex where they think the rules don't apply to them and do in fact act like maniacs because money gets them out of about anything. Conor has been gone off the rails for almost 2 years now noticeably. Just the way he carrys himself, obviously has a drug problem with whiskey involved. This happens frequently and is textbook in a lot of rape cases we just don't hear about it unless it's a celebrity.

So he’s guilty until proven innocent? Where is the evidence? Let’s seriously wait until we get the whole story before we judge someone.

Google St. Hilaires College Football Rape Allegations.
Just bc ppl have intercourse doesn’t mean rape occurred.

 

[thehighking]

Exactly. It doesn’t say there was blood “all over her clothes” like you wrote.

Someone else said that. Bloodstained could be a small amount of blood or a lot of blood, who knows. She has facial injuries though that has been reported. I'd believe what the news reports have stated as facts but the whatsapp rumors are probably chinese whispers

 

[B ville Famous]

Someone else said that. Bloodstained could be a small amount of blood or a lot of blood, who knows. She has facial injuries though that has been reported. I believe what the news reports have stated as facts but the whatsapp rumors are probably chinese whispers

There hasn’t been official reports stating that she had any facial injuries either.

 

[sometimesmaybe]

Yeah sorry I just realized I got you mized up with someone else.

But yeah I'm taking the neurtral position just like you suggest. All these other morons are hating on Conor and assuming he's guilty.

Not an issue man. It happens. I remain neutral because there just isnt enough info. I have a deep background in law enforcement and understand that while not the norm false accusations happen and anyone making assumptions either way on this is just conjecture at this point.

 

[thehighking]

There hasn’t been official reports stating that she had any facial injuries either.

There has been actually, one report said she was taken to hospital in an ambulance with facial injuries and if I'm correct I think police stated she looked battered and bruised