The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido

[splendica]

Also, it's no wonder that the penis is where it is and our hands are where they are. Imagine if the penis were in the middle of our upper backs?

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I personally give zero fuck about this whole Weinstein/Sex scandal thing.

We back regimes that absolutely undermine women and don't bat an eye, but suddenly it's horrible because some Hollywood divas are getting groped?

No, what bothers me more is shit like New year's eve in Cologne from 2 years ago.

But nobody is touching that of course.

Gwineth Paltrow was asked to suck a dick ? Holy shit revolution.

 

[weed]

the male libido
@pcptornado
your polls are neat-o

 

[brothir]

I disagree that its nothing to do with libido and only power, I don't think that's ever true of rape.

Yes, I've also been nonplussed by the claim that a sexual act can be devoid of sexual drive.

 

[MikeMcMann]

It's an interesting read but I'm not sure where the author is going with this. The dominance element in male-female sexual engagement is well documented so there's nothing new here. However, the author somewhat ignores that forced penetration rape is a dominance display even against other men - and that has nothing to do with libido, it's purely about power.

Frank discussions about the elements of masculinity, both positive and negative, is always a good thing though.

While I would agree I would add that 'frank discussions about elements of femininity, both positive and negative also need to be discussed.

 

[nostradumbass]

She seems fun.

She is a scream. Some more of her brilliant musings are that marriage is just extended rape, "romance is just rape with meaningful looks", "seduction is rape, but the rapist bothers to buy a bottle on wine", and "childbearing is glorified partly because women die from it". I'd bet good money that she was listening to Air Supply "All Out of Love" on a loop when she wrote these.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Just stop pulling your cocks out in front of women who don't want to see it.

This isn't a hard concept to grasp

 

[nostradumbass]

I disagree that its nothing to do with libido and only power, I don't think that's ever true of rape. Sure maybe in some circumstances its primarily about power but I think if you're raping someone, its because you want to get your dick wet on some level. Male on male rape is usually prevalent in settings where there aren't many women like prisons and the military, I don't think that's an accident. The lack of the preferred outlet might lead some men to take desperate measures.

There have been a fair number of cases of rape of like 85 year old women, and more than a few nursing home employees raping the old people. I'm going to guess that wasn't because of some overwhelming attraction, and literally would not get their dick wet. It's certainly most often a matter of actually wanting to have sex with the person, but there are more than a few exceptions.

 

[deltapapha]

The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido

After weeks of continuously unfolding abuse scandals, men have become, quite literally, unbelievable. ...a man’s stated opinions have next to no relationship to behavior.

Through sheer bulk, the string of revelations about men from Bill Cosby to Roger Ailes to Harvey Weinstein to Louis C.K. to Al Franken and, this week, to Charlie Rose and John Lasseter, have forced men to confront what they hate to think about most: the nature of men in general.

This time the accusations aren’t against some freak geography teacher, some frat running amok in a Southern college town. They’re against men of all different varieties, in different industries, with different sensibilities, bound together, solely, by the grotesquerie of their sexuality...

...
Almost all are uninterested or unwilling to grapple with the problem at the heart of all this: the often ugly and dangerous nature of the male libido.

For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated himself.

Fear of the male libido has been the subject of myth and of fairy tale from the beginning of literature:..


... The (very few) prominent men who are speaking up now basically just insist that men need to be better feminists — as if the past few weeks have not amply demonstrated that the ideologies of men are irrelevant.

...How can healthy sexuality ever occur in conditions in which men and women are not equal? How are we supposed to create an equal world when male mechanisms of desire are inherently brutal? We cannot answer these questions unless we face them....

don't blame the player blame the game

[edit: i took down the GoT image of Khal raping Dany. It was a bit strong. My point was that when you got shows like GoT purveying Khal's forced taking of Dany approvingly, don't blame the new-gen when they follow suit]

 

[Islam Imamate]

There have been a fair number of cases of rape of like 85 year old women, and more than a few nursing home employees raping the old people. I'm going to guess that wasn't because of some overwhelming attraction, and literally would not get their dick wet.

I didn't say there was necessarily overwhelming attraction, notice I even said it could mostly be about power. But if you're going to stick your dick in someone or something its because you wanted to get off on some level.

 

[Bald1]

She is a scream. Some more of her brilliant musings are that marriage is just extended rape, "romance is just rape with meaningful looks", "seduction is rape, but the rapist bothers to buy a bottle on wine", and "childbearing is glorified partly because women die from it". I'd bet good money that she was listening to Air Supply "All Out of Love" on a loop when she wrote these.

Yup, a complete nutter. Just quoting her in any manner aside from ridicule, or an attempt at analysis is a red flag.

 

[HomerThompson]

She is a scream. Some more of her brilliant musings are that marriage is just extended rape, "romance is just rape with meaningful looks", "seduction is rape, but the rapist bothers to buy a bottle on wine", and "childbearing is glorified partly because women die from it". I'd bet good money that she was listening to Air Supply "All Out of Love" on a loop when she wrote these.

LMAO.

 

[Gunny]

The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido

After weeks of continuously unfolding abuse scandals, men have become, quite literally, unbelievable. ...a man’s stated opinions have next to no relationship to behavior.

Through sheer bulk, the string of revelations about men from Bill Cosby to Roger Ailes to Harvey Weinstein to Louis C.K. to Al Franken and, this week, to Charlie Rose and John Lasseter, have forced men to confront what they hate to think about most: the nature of men in general.

This time the accusations aren’t against some freak geography teacher, some frat running amok in a Southern college town. They’re against men of all different varieties, in different industries, with different sensibilities, bound together, solely, by the grotesquerie of their sexuality...

...
Almost all are uninterested or unwilling to grapple with the problem at the heart of all this: the often ugly and dangerous nature of the male libido.

For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated himself.

Fear of the male libido has been the subject of myth and of fairy tale from the beginning of literature:..


... The (very few) prominent men who are speaking up now basically just insist that men need to be better feminists — as if the past few weeks have not amply demonstrated that the ideologies of men are irrelevant.

...How can healthy sexuality ever occur in conditions in which men and women are not equal? How are we supposed to create an equal world when male mechanisms of desire are inherently brutal? We cannot answer these questions unless we face them....

I guess all those female teachers having sex with their underage students force us to also examine the ugly nature of the female libido...

...or not because this entire line of reasoning is fucking retarded.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I guess all those female teachers having sex with their underage students force us to also examine the ugly nature of the female libido...

...or not because this entire line of reasoning is fucking retarded.

I actually thought about putting that in the OP.

 

[panamaican]

I disagree that its nothing to do with libido and only power, I don't think that's ever true of rape. Sure maybe in some circumstances its primarily about power but I think if you're raping someone, its because you want to get your dick wet on some level. Male on male rape is usually prevalent in settings where there aren't many women like prisons and the military, I don't think that's an accident. The lack of the preferred outlet might lead some men to take desperate measures.

As far as the OP goes, I definitely think there's truth to it. However, I think that the inherently brutal nature of the male libido is also the same well spring that generates the success we want from men. Notice all the men that have been accused are highly successful, not fucking scrubs. Men are built and expected to be the aggressors, the initiators, to have drive. These same qualities which we would want to encourage in men have their downsides. To try to castrate the male libido, to make it something harmless, I think would also lead to a kind of meekness. We would be left with the Japanese herbivore, a rather pathetic impotent male.

I still disagree on the libido vs. power dynamic. I'm not doing the research but I'd imagine that once you dig into it, these individuals exercise force over others in a variety of ways. Forcible penetration being just one of them. The act of dominance is what they're exercising, not a libidinous drive.

 

[panamaican]

While I would agree I would add that 'frank discussions about elements of femininity, both positive and negative also need to be discussed.

I'm pretty sure they happen.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I still disagree on the libido vs. power dynamic. I'm not doing the research but I'd imagine that once you dig into it, these individuals exercise force over others in a variety of ways. Forcible penetration being just one of them. The act of dominance is what they're exercising, not a libidinous drive.

The act of dominance is what they're exercising but they're doing so in a way that gets their dick wet and I think its because, in that moment, that's also what they want to do. Men also beat the shit out of each other to express dominance, when they rape one another its because there's something else at work.

 

[Kframe]

The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido

After weeks of continuously unfolding abuse scandals, men have become, quite literally, unbelievable. ...a man’s stated opinions have next to no relationship to behavior.

Through sheer bulk, the string of revelations about men from Bill Cosby to Roger Ailes to Harvey Weinstein to Louis C.K. to Al Franken and, this week, to Charlie Rose and John Lasseter, have forced men to confront what they hate to think about most: the nature of men in general.

This time the accusations aren’t against some freak geography teacher, some frat running amok in a Southern college town. They’re against men of all different varieties, in different industries, with different sensibilities, bound together, solely, by the grotesquerie of their sexuality...

...
Almost all are uninterested or unwilling to grapple with the problem at the heart of all this: the often ugly and dangerous nature of the male libido.

For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated himself.

Fear of the male libido has been the subject of myth and of fairy tale from the beginning of literature:..


... The (very few) prominent men who are speaking up now basically just insist that men need to be better feminists — as if the past few weeks have not amply demonstrated that the ideologies of men are irrelevant.

...How can healthy sexuality ever occur in conditions in which men and women are not equal? How are we supposed to create an equal world when male mechanisms of desire are inherently brutal? We cannot answer these questions unless we face them....

It is clear then. The only solution to problem with men and their demonic, Satan given libido, is to sterilize all of them, and suppress their testosterone production to that of the average females. Removal of the Rape Spear, also called the penis, is paramount.

Any reproduction can be done through genetic engineering in the safety of a lab. Preferably one staffed by all females.

The future of the human race may in fact depend on the end of the male gender.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I disagree that its nothing to do with libido and only power, I don't think that's ever true of rape. Sure maybe in some circumstances its primarily about power but I think if you're raping someone, its because you want to get your dick wet on some level. Male on male rape is usually prevalent in settings where there aren't many women like prisons and the military, I don't think that's an accident. The lack of the preferred outlet might lead some men to take desperate measures.

As far as the OP goes, I definitely think there's truth to it. However, I think that the inherently brutal nature of the male libido is also the same well spring that generates the success we want from men. Notice all the men that have been accused are highly successful, not fucking scrubs. Men are built and expected to be the aggressors, the initiators, to have drive. These same qualities which we would want to encourage in men have their downsides. To try to castrate the male libido, to make it something harmless, I think would also lead to a kind of meekness. We would be left with the Japanese herbivore, a rather pathetic impotent male.

I don't think the status of the men is a variable in the A type, masculine role in the argument -- I bet plenty of people fall into the category, it's the media that gears it only toward high ranking people. Like everything else, rape is only interesting when a person with recognizable name does it or has it done to them

 

[Kframe]

I disagree that its nothing to do with libido and only power, I don't think that's ever true of rape. Sure maybe in some circumstances its primarily about power but I think if you're raping someone, its because you want to get your dick wet on some level. Male on male rape is usually prevalent in settings where there aren't many women like prisons and the military, I don't think that's an accident. The lack of the preferred outlet might lead some men to take desperate measures.

As far as the OP goes, I definitely think there's truth to it. However, I think that the inherently brutal nature of the male libido is also the same well spring that generates the success we want from men. Notice all the men that have been accused are highly successful, not fucking scrubs. Men are built and expected to be the aggressors, the initiators, to have drive. These same qualities which we would want to encourage in men have their downsides. To try to castrate the male libido, to make it something harmless, I think would also lead to a kind of meekness. We would be left with the Japanese herbivore, a rather pathetic impotent male.

Herbivore men. Sounds a hell of alot like the MGTOW set.