Media The UFC's "Opportunity" Re-evaluated by Gray Maynard

[Deleted member 585708]

If the UFC is only an 'opportunity', and not there to actually make you rich, what is the point of that opportunity?

So you can go and be a celebrity?

I'm telling you, as of 2022, this is the end of Dana White and his business model.

 

[VinceArch]

 

[CatchnShoot]

Preach brother Maynard.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Nothing will change unless it's court ordered. I firmly believe that. The UFC should pay fighters more, and the bigger names should get a higher percentage while the floor is higher for those who are working their way up.

1,000 threads won't make a difference either way.

Still, if you're a fan of a fighter, there are ways to support them. You could purchase some of their merchandise if you are so inclined.

 

[mjoln]

High risk, no reward

 

[Carrotman23]

Let me be clear. I'm not trying to be political I'm keeping this completely within the realm of fighter pay context; the Dana White model is the new normal for corporate capitalism within sports unless you have collective bargaining power and legislative rights . Again let me be clear;
All major sports leagues in the US from baseball to Football won their rights through collective bargaining. They realized their value and built their rights through organization and legal action at the federal and state level.
The equivalent will never happen for MMA including the UFC until fighters realize they are ONE.

 

[Don't Call Me A Casual]

If the UFC is only an 'opportunity', and not there to actually make you rich, what is the point of that opportunity?

So you can go and be a celebrity?

I'm telling you, as of 2022, this is the end of Dana White and his business model.

Based Maynard

 

[Substance Abuse]

Homie you beat me to it I basically just posted that.
You love to see it hespect man

I was on Max's website last night. He seems to be stepping up his merch designs. I think I might buy something from there.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Nothing will change unless it's court ordered. I firmly believe that. The UFC should pay fighters more, and the bigger names should get a higher percentage while the floor is higher for those who are working their way up.

1,000 threads won't make a difference either way.

Still, if you're a fan of a fighter, there are ways to support them. You could purchase some of their merchandise if you are so inclined.

Respectfully, you're seeing the change happen. You're just assuming the status quo will remain, somehow.

You're a fantastic mod on a forum I've grown in love with, but this "nothing will change unless it's court ordered" is wrong.

They've just lost their top fighter, the most marketable guy in the company's historic heavyweight division, to boxing.

I know these threads will probably get merged into a super thread, but that would be sad.

I legitimately think this forum can play it's part.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Respectfully, you're seeing the change happen. You're just assuming the status quo will remain, somehow.

You're a fantastic mod on a forum I've grown in love with, but this "nothing will change unless it's court ordered" is wrong.

They've just lost their top fighter, the most marketable guy in the company's historic heavyweight division, to boxing.

I know these threads will probably get merged into a super thread, but that would be sad.

I legitimately think this forum can play it's part.

I think the Ali act is the only thing that will instill immediate change. If not, it will take a long time for things to open up. Yes, there will be one offs like Conor/Floyd but until the UFC is made to change, the percentage of income the fighters will receive may only change minimally. Bellator and ONE don't have the money to play the long game and change everything as an alternative.

Now, any movement forward is positive, but MMA fighters have proven that they will not bite the hand that feeds them and almost refuse to group together.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

I legitimately think this forum can play it's part.

Wow, I wish I had your optimism man

 

[avenue94]

I think the Ali act is the only thing that will instill immediate change. If not, it will take a long time for things to open up.

So what you're saying is we should make a "Contact Your Congressperson" mega thread? I kid, too much work.

es, there will be one ofs like Conor/Floyd but until the UFC is made to change, the percentage of income the fighters will receive may only change minimally.

In a vacuum they are one-offs, but in the grand scheme they are important since wages tend to be sticky. As much as it pains me, Conor probably has slightly raised overall pay for champions. Hard to unring the bells he rang.

 

[Substance Abuse]

So what you're saying is we should make a "Contact Your Congressperson" mega thread? I kid, too much work.

In a vacuum they are one-offs, but in the grand scheme they are important since wages tend to be sticky. As much as it pains me, Conor probably has slightly raised overall pay for champions. Hard to unring the bells he rang.

That's a very valid point Conor raising the ceiling, but then again, most fighters aren't willingly going to get that opportunity. Then again, the UFC isn't all that transparent with what they pay. A lot of it is speculation.

 

[froggyluv]

Preach brother Maynard.

I could see him as Brother Maynard -like for the 5th season of the Last Kingdom

Frustrated Saxon warrior monk who gets killed by strange twitchy Danish ground fighter

 

[Substance Abuse]

LOL say whatever will get you likes man. I still think you're a dipshit

Okay, Richard, time to go to bed.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

I think the Ali act is the only thing that will instill immediate change. If not, it will take a long time for things to open up. Yes, there will be one ofs like Conor/Floyd but until the UFC is made to change, the percentage of income the fighters will receive may only change minimally. Bellator and ONE don't have the money to play the long game and change everything as an alternative.

Now, any movement forward is positive, but MMA fighters have proven that they will not bite the hand that feeds them and almost refuse to group together.

I don't know much about the Ali act, but if it turns MMA into Boxing I hope it never affects MMA

I don't care if the top guys make a bigger percentage, it's not worth ruining the sport. IMO that would be worse for everyone other than the top 5 or so names at whatever given time, I think some people on here take for granted how amazing the UFC product is for us, last year had so many amazing, exciting cards, compare it to Boxing and it's not even close

I hope somehow the UFC eventually has a union as strong as the NFL's (I would say NBA, but their union is a little too strong lol)

 

[Deleted member 585708]

I think the Ali act is the only thing that will instill immediate change. If not, it will take a long time for things to open up. Yes, there will be one ofs like Conor/Floyd but until the UFC is made to change, the percentage of income the fighters will receive may only change minimally. Bellator and ONE don't have the money to play the long game and change everything as an alternative.

Now, any movement forward is positive, but MMA fighters have proven that they will not bite the hand that feeds them and almost refuse to group together.

But this hasn't happened before.

There has been no threat from anywhere, outside maybe the WWE taking Brock back.

Every monopoly is a perfect business model until it's no longer a monopoly.

The rules are being rewritten because the UFC's business model is failing to protect it's top stars; the Ali Act is historic, so yes, it's a precedent, but the landscape is changing and there will be more "Ali Acts" to come.

 

[Substance Abuse]

I don't know much about the Ali act, but if it turns MMA into Boxing I hope it never affects MMA

I don't care if the top guys make a bigger percentage, it's not worth ruining the sport. IMO that would be worse for everyone other than the top 5 or so names at whatever given time, I think some people on here take for granted how amazing the UFC product is for us, last year had so many amazing, exciting cards, compare it to Boxing and it's not even close

I hope somehow the UFC eventually has a union as strong as the NFL's (I would say NBA, but their union is a little too strong lol)

A union would be a much better outcome as promoters and mismatches have hurt boxing considerably. While MMA doesn't pay its fighters their fair share, it does have many positives as a sport compared to boxing.

 

[Masturbin]

The twitter guy is a bit right tho.
You need to build yourself in/outside the ufc.
The best payed athletes in the ufc are the ones that need the ufc the less

 

[Substance Abuse]

But this hasn't happened before.

There has been no threat from anywhere, outside maybe the WWE taking Brock back.

Every monopoly is a perfect business model until it's no longer a monopoly.

The rules are being rewritten because the UFC's business model is failing to protect it's top stars; the Ali Act is historic, so yes, it's a precedent, but the landscape is changing and there will be more "Ali Acts" to come.

I think it's just a unique situation in regards to Francis. The UFC capping their deals with time frames as opposed to contracts continuing in perpetuity if a fighter is a champion has caused this.