Rumored The UFC Twitter account sends out DMs stating Mcgregor vs Poirier 2 is now for the title!

[Sjb1888]

So fucking stupid to let McGregor anywhere near a belt. He doesn't deserve it, and he will never defend it.

I'm interested in the fight though.

What fight should be for the belt if not this one?

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

What fight should be for the belt if not this one?

They should make a fight with two deserving contenders. As a baseline criteria we could aim really low and only ask that a contender have one or two wins in the division since 2017.

Poirier could be a contender, though he really needs a win or two after losing to Khabib. Oliviera deserves a shot; he's got eight wins at LW in a row, seven of them coming since McGregor's last fight in the division, which was a loss. Really anyone in the top fifteen at LW deserves a shot above McGregor. Winner of Hooker-Chandler should get one before Conor does. Even broken down Tony Ferguson deserves a shot more than Conor does.

I'm not a knee-jerk McGregor hater. I stuck up for him a lot in 2013-16. I've consistently said, even in this thread, that I like his fights. But he's completely undeserving of a title shot, and that's before we even consider what a shit tier champ he's been everytime he's gotten a belt.

 

[BFoe]

They should make a fight with two deserving contenders. As a baseline criteria we could aim really low and only ask that a contender have one or two wins in the division since 2017.

Poirier could be a contender, though he really needs a win or two after losing to Khabib. Oliviera deserves a shot; he's got eight wins at LW in a row, seven of them coming since McGregor's last fight in the division, which was a loss. Really anyone in the top fifteen at LW deserves a shot above McGregor. Winner of Hooker-Chandler should get one before Conor does. Even broken down Tony Ferguson deserves a shot more than Conor does.

I'm not a knee-jerk McGregor hater. I stuck up for him a lot in 2013-16. I've consistently said, even in this thread, that I like his fights. But he's completely undeserving of a title shot, and that's before we even consider what a shit tier champ he's been everytime he's gotten a belt.

Excuse me miss, I believe you dropped something.

 

[SKITZADACTYL]

so many tears

 

[FedorGOAT]

This is not a sport, this is a comedy circus.

 

[Strijfy]

Doesn't fucking matter, just like your opinion. Conor was off for 2 years to box the GOAT and fought Khabib with no tune-up fights. Everybody with a brain knows he wasn't in top shape for that fight. Then he moved up to 170 and all his haters picked Cowboy by beatdown. DOY!! Conor beat him worse than he's ever been beaten, and Cowboy's next two fights proved he wasn't washed up. Conor deserves the shot so go cry to momma. Oliveira gets the winner so he's fine with it also. You could tell by his post-fight interview after he proved Tony was no longer a top contender. Khabib quit so fuck him. His ego can't take a loss. Conor brushes them off and comes back better and stronger.

reading that utter nonsense , the only person with half a brain is the person who wrote it .

 

[Bob Sapp]

Might as well give Conor coke at this point

 

[Sjb1888]

They should make a fight with two deserving contenders. As a baseline criteria we could aim really low and only ask that a contender have one or two wins in the division since 2017.

Poirier could be a contender, though he really needs a win or two after losing to Khabib. Oliviera deserves a shot; he's got eight wins at LW in a row, seven of them coming since McGregor's last fight in the division, which was a loss. Really anyone in the top fifteen at LW deserves a shot above McGregor. Winner of Hooker-Chandler should get one before Conor does. Even broken down Tony Ferguson deserves a shot more than Conor does.

I'm not a knee-jerk McGregor hater. I stuck up for him a lot in 2013-16. I've consistently said, even in this thread, that I like his fights. But he's completely undeserving of a title shot, and that's before we even consider what a shit tier champ he's been everytime he's gotten a belt.

I agree that Oliviera is the most deserving, but I don't think Conor as the previous champ is as far away as you think from deserving a shot, it's not really his fault he couldn't fight more than once last year, I don't think the UFC wanted to use him in fights with no real gate, i'm sure they have certain financial guarantees they need to meet when he fights as they don't want to leave that money on the table.

I also regard the Cowboy fight as a meaning something at LW, we all moan about the silly weight cut/rehydrate that goes on yet when 2 LW agree to fight at WW we're all rushing to discount it at both weight classes.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I agree that Oliviera is the most deserving, but I don't think Conor as the previous champ is as far away as you think from deserving a shot, it's not really his fault he couldn't fight more than once last year, I don't think the UFC wanted to use him in fights with no real gate, i'm sure they have certain financial guarantees they need to meet when he fights as they don't want to leave that money on the table.

I also regard the Cowboy fight as a meaning something at LW, we all moan about the silly weight cut/rehydrate that goes on yet when 2 LW agree to fight at WW we're all rushing to discount it at both weight classes.

I don't think McGregor is all that far. Just an actual LW win or two. Right now his claim is based on nothing. Nada.

 

[kflo]

They should make a fight with two deserving contenders. As a baseline criteria we could aim really low and only ask that a contender have one or two wins in the division since 2017.

Poirier could be a contender, though he really needs a win or two after losing to Khabib. Oliviera deserves a shot; he's got eight wins at LW in a row, seven of them coming since McGregor's last fight in the division, which was a loss. Really anyone in the top fifteen at LW deserves a shot above McGregor. Winner of Hooker-Chandler should get one before Conor does. Even broken down Tony Ferguson deserves a shot more than Conor does.

I'm not a knee-jerk McGregor hater. I stuck up for him a lot in 2013-16. I've consistently said, even in this thread, that I like his fights. But he's completely undeserving of a title shot, and that's before we even consider what a shit tier champ he's been everytime he's gotten a belt.

It’s just a bit puzzling to try to suggest that conor is this fringe unranked fighter that should be fighting other unranked or 10-15 guys to work his way up the rankings. It’s just a completely unrealistic take on his position in the division.

I’m ok with people insisting conor-dustin shouldn’t be for the title. I agree. But you seem to be taking the position that conor shouldn’t even be fighting dustin for a position for a title if he wins.

Conor’s career is what puts him in the position he’s in. He’s not just some random 1-1 lightweight. Just like izzy isn’t just some 0-0 lhw. And in boxing mikey garcia isn’t just some 1-1 welterweight. We don’t just ignore anything else he’s done, including the 1 minute finish he had in 2020. He’s proven to be an elite fighter, and a win over dustin would prove he’s still an elite lw contender.

And we’ve still seen no real indication that this fight is indeed for a title yet. It’s not advertised as a title fight.

 

[kflo]

I don't think McGregor is all that far. Just an actual LW win or two. Right now his claim is based on nothing. Nada.

Ok, this clarifies things a bit. Your other post seemed to imply a bit different. My bad.

Although I do think completely ignoring the cowboy fight isn’t really a fair take.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

It’s just a bit puzzling to try to suggest that conor is this fringe unranked fighter that should be fighting other unranked or 10-15 guys to work his way up the rankings. It’s just a completely unrealistic take on his position in the division.

I’m ok with people insisting conor-dustin shouldn’t be for the title. I agree. But you seem to be taking the position that conor shouldn’t even be fighting dustin for a position for a title if he wins.

Conor’s career is what puts him in the position he’s in. He’s not just some random 1-1 lightweight. Just like izzy isn’t just some 0-0 lhw. And in boxing mikey garcia isn’t just some 1-1 welterweight. We don’t just ignore anything else he’s done, including the 1 minute finish he had in 2020. He’s proven to be an elite fighter, and a win over dustin would prove he’s still an elite lw contender.

And we’ve still seen no real indication that this fight is indeed for a title yet. It’s not advertised as a title fight.

A split second before you posted this, I left this comment:

I don't think McGregor is all that far. Just an actual LW win or two. Right now his claim is based on nothing. Nada.

I don't think McGregor needs four wins or to be fighting top 15 guys. I'd be satisfied with two good wins, and I begrudgingly acknowledge that one top win would easily position him for whatever he wanted. But no wins in the division since 2016 is a lot to swallow.

 

[Jose Beehive]

They should make a fight with two deserving contenders. As a baseline criteria we could aim really low and only ask that a contender have one or two wins in the division since 2017.

Poirier could be a contender, though he really needs a win or two after losing to Khabib. Oliviera deserves a shot; he's got eight wins at LW in a row, seven of them coming since McGregor's last fight in the division, which was a loss. Really anyone in the top fifteen at LW deserves a shot above McGregor. Winner of Hooker-Chandler should get one before Conor does. Even broken down Tony Ferguson deserves a shot more than Conor does.

I'm not a knee-jerk McGregor hater. I stuck up for him a lot in 2013-16. I've consistently said, even in this thread, that I like his fights. But he's completely undeserving of a title shot, and that's before we even consider what a shit tier champ he's been everytime he's gotten a belt.

 

[Sjb1888]

I don't think McGregor is all that far. Just an actual LW win or two. Right now his claim is based on nothing. Nada.

Well it's based on being the previous champ and his win over Cowboy, it's not at all rare for the previous champ to need only one win to get right back in their for the title shot.

Truth is every other top LW has a recent loss or they haven't proved themselves enough yet to be in ahead of Conor apart from Oliveira.

To me it would be silly not to make this a title fight if Khabib is definitely done.

 

[PeacePipe]

I don't disagree necessarily disagree with your feeling. But "feeling" is a tenuous criteria for a title shot. Wins is a much better metric.

So who would you have fight Poirier? Gaithje? I think he needed a rest

 

[MRT]

Yes because a 20 something running ufc twitter is gonna be grammatically correct

true - but one would hope that a 10 billion dollar company could invest in a social media person who can write properly...or at least have a literate adult check their work lol

 

[MRT]

So where is this CONFIRMED?

The alleged DM isn't even grammatically correct..."Don't miss Poirier take on McGregor for the lightweight title bout"

I'm calling bullshit until a legit source reports it lol

24 hours later and...nothing? Still only fringe and tabloid sites talking about it?

BTW...why does the title need to be filled IMMEDIATELY? Why can't we just have two contenders emerge from the pack?

It's very simple...have everyone fight and then go from there. We have Dustin-Conor and Chandler-Hooker booked...and, as makes sense, it appears that Gaethje-Oliveira is in the works.

Let those fights play out...and the two guys who look most impressive in winning could then compete for the title, with the odd man out being on standby in case either of them pulls out. This also further ensures that everyone is looking to impress, because they know one of the three winners will be the odd man out and have to wait his turn (and possibly even win another fight).

That would make WAY more sense from a merit perspective than just gifting a title shot to two guys who don't actually deserve it right now. I know, I know...'merit' is often not the primary motivator behind matchmaking and title shots.

 

[boss429]

It's worth noting that McGregor is slightly more experienced at LW than advertised. His LW record is something like 5-2 overall, but yeah 1-1 in the UFC. I think the UFC tacitly counts his WW bouts against Cerrone and Diaz as wins at LW, since those guys have spent most of their careers at LW, but I don't think they should.




There is no possible way to keep the division in limbo more certainly than putting the belt around McGregor's waist.

Yeah I know but his prior LW bouts were against nobodies with the exception of the Duffy loss and the win over the somewhat creditable Ivan.

They are definitely counting those as LW wins but that just further proves the absurdity of the situation. It should also be noted that Conor has somehow remained in the LW top 5 rankings since Alverez and even somehow gained a spot this year despite his 0-1 record over those 4 years.

While Cowboy went from 5th to 11th after losing a WW fight to Conor to 15th after losing a LW fight to Pettis who, remarkably, has been unranked at LW for years despite being the most accomplished former Champion since Bendo and only being beaten by top 5 LWs while also holding a win over a real top 5 ranked WW.

If Conor is still ranked for his one Title fight win at LW 4 years ago shouldn't Pettis still be top 5 too for winning and actually defending the belt? Only makes sense right.... Lol.

I couldn't agree more with your response to the other dude though, how people who are constantly complaining about Khabib, the most active LW Champion in years, "holding up the division", are so desperate to strap another belt around Conors waist is beyond me.

It's almost like they don't actually have a clue what they're talking about nor give the slightest fuck about the division being " held up" and just want to see their boy get handed another belt. Who am I to judge though, I'm sure they're truly just concerned about the integrity of the division...... Lol.

 

[Eszopiclone]

This shit is turning into boxing

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Hmmm, this still isn't official, right? Maybe it was just weird wording.