The truth about tainted supplaments

@RampageFaction
So you are saying that the Mcgregor who Ko Aldo weigths the same as the Mcgregor that fought Diaz? There is easily 10-15 pounds of difference.
 
Scrap USADA for men's mma. It's two guys locked in a cage trying to beat each other unconscious. Supervised steroid usage is the answer. These guys will perform better, have better chins, and recover drastically faster. Less pull outs, less boring fights, less gassing, less injuries.

Fuck USADA and that deal making snitch rat fuk Jeff.
 
That some are tainted. Some cheat using the excuse . We don't really know. You're welcome making sense to this thread ts
 
Jongoatjones7 said:
@RampageFaction
So you are saying that the Mcgregor who Ko Aldo weigths the same as the Mcgregor that fought Diaz? There is easily 10-15 pounds of difference.
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I’m saying the McGregor who KO’d Aldo, his weight in cage would have been close to 160-165. Before he cut weight he was, basically, the same size as as the Nate fight. You were implying that Conor was walking around at 145, then magically put on 20lbs of “muscle” for the Diaz fight. Conor cut a LOT of weight to make 145. Against chad Mendes at featherweight when Chael asked him his weight Conor was quoted: 'I'm around 172 pounds.'
That was 8 days out from the fight, before the cut. So it’s complete bullshit to say “he put on 10-20lbs of muscle” in between the Aldo fight and the first Nate fight. All he did different was cut no weight.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...egor-needs-to-drop-27-pounds-ahead-of-ufc-189
 
-Dim- said:
No they dont.

Show me where on their website they have a list of approved supplements.

I'll wait..
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https://www.usada.org/athletes/subs...positive-experiencing-adverse-health-effects/
Spesifically tell people not to buy any supplaments that arent NSF certafied. If you buy supplaments that is NSF certafied the risk of contamination is basically zero, instead they buy third party bullshit supplaments like jon jones boner pills from brazil insted of just calling up his doctor and getting some legit viagra or cialis.
 
There is essentially no such thing as “tainted” supplements (at least at the OTC level).

It’s basic economics - legit gear costs more than amino acids/creatine etc.

And even if they were prepared in the same shitty lab with poor cleanliness the amount of tainting would be tiny. It would make no difference and wouldn’t show up weeks later.

Put another way; would weed show up in a piss test if yesterday you sat next to a guy who was toking? No.

An athlete who tests positive (and “pulsing” is not a real thing - nor is tainted meat) is an athlete who has doped. Aside from some of these young Chinese/Russian athletes who maybe were being dosed without consent they all know what they are doing and they are all lying. It’s pathetic.

We should just end the charade and have open and safe use.
 
-Dim- said:
No they dont.

Show me where on their website they have a list of approved supplements.

I'll wait..
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How about you reply to the things I have called you out on. We will start with your need to have smoked within 48 hours of a test to fail for THC, and from there go to tests during fight week and the actual lack of research under those conditions.

We can then go to your bullshit about testing results and decrease in the ranges of TST and free TST levels.

That should take a while if you are ever honest enough to reply.
 
Blake_UK said:
There is essentially no such thing as “tainted” supplements (at least at the OTC level).

It’s basic economics - legit gear costs more than amino acids/creatine etc.

And even if they were prepared in the same shitty lab with poor cleanliness the amount of tainting would be tiny. It would make no difference and wouldn’t show up weeks later.

Put another way; would weed show up in a piss test if yesterday you sat next to a guy who was toking? No.

An athlete who tests positive (and “pulsing” is not a real thing - nor is tainted meat) is an athlete who has doped. Aside from some of these young Chinese/Russian athletes who maybe were being dosed without consent they all know what they are doing and they are all lying. It’s pathetic.

We should just end the charade and have open and safe use.
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no, we’ve already seen happens in countries that have allowed “open and safe” use of steroids in organized sports, notably weightlifting. Basically, coaches start injecting steroids into prepubescent and early puberty children who have demonstrated inherent physical gifts, all with the intention of transforming them into champions at earlier and earlier ages. No consideration is given to the health of these children. You’re being naive if you believe “open and safe” use isn’t actually a race to the bottom.
 
Airdack said:
Scrap USADA for men's mma. It's two guys locked in a cage trying to beat each other unconscious. Supervised steroid usage is the answer. These guys will perform better, have better chins, and recover drastically faster. Less pull outs, less boring fights, less gassing, less injuries.

Fuck USADA and that deal making snitch rat fuk Jeff.
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{<jordan}
 
Remember how much better everything was before USADA? Let's go back to that
 
AlanGregson said:
Usada has a list of approved suplaments on their website, everything that an athlete would need without the risk of contamination.
So why would a UFC fighter use some bullshit shady supplament company? The answer...
They find out which supplaments are contaminated with the PED that they are using and if they pop, they use it as an excuse to get a reduced sentence.
200IQ plays boys.
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Absolutely. Have been saying it all along. If the stuff you buy isn't certified, you don't know what's in it. "I didn't know what's in it" isn't a valid excuse. You chose to put something in your body without knowing what it was.

Now, you can argue that it's too much work for the fighters. Even that they should drop USADA altogether. Fair arguments, but we are talking about how things are. Not how we think things ought to be.
 
slipleft said:
no, we’ve already seen happens in countries that have allowed “open and safe” use of steroids in organized sports, notably weightlifting. Basically, coaches start injecting steroids into prepubescent and early puberty children who have demonstrated inherent physical gifts, all with the intention of transforming them into champions at earlier and earlier ages. No consideration is given to the health of these children. You’re being naive if you believe “open and safe” use isn’t actually a race to the bottom.
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Nice straw man.
No part of “open and safe” equals “kids being injected with steroids”.

You sound like the anti-weed legislation brigade. And like them you ignore the harm being down with the flagrant and widespread use and abuse of steroids currently happening in gyms across the land.
 
I could use some supple“mints” right about now
 
AlanGregson said:
Usada has a list of approved suplaments on their website, everything that an athlete would need without the risk of contamination.
So why would a UFC fighter use some bullshit shady supplament company? The answer...
They find out which supplaments are contaminated with the PED that they are using and if they pop, they use it as an excuse to get a reduced sentence.
200IQ plays boys.
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It wouldn’t surprise me at all if there are a few chemists out there who test supplements each month and make lists of tainted batches.
 
If you're not sticking to the usda approved list then you shouldn't be allowed the bs "contaminated supplements" argument.
 
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