The time on top is short lived

Another issue is that once at the top, they start fighting once or twice a year at best. 2 title defenses can mean a 2 year reign. Sadly, That’s how things work. Izzy bless.
 
The only ones who can truly stay on top for prolonged periods of time is us sherdoggers.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
fighters should fight 4 times a year.
none of this once every 15 months bullshit. you get guys who've been fighting for 20 years and their record is like 9-3.
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If they're going to be testing guys constantly then you can't ask them to fight that often though.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
sugar ray robinson had 200 fights. just saying.
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Lol there's a lot of reasons stuff like that isn't going to happen in modern mma. Not as many cans/journeymen to fight and mma doesn't typically just feed guys cans like boxing does, no peds for recovery in between fights. MMA camps seem to be more grueling and dangerous than boxing camps too.


And of course people are much more knowledgeable about how dangerous head trauma is than they were back then.
 
Mike said:
Lol there's a lot of reasons stuff like that isn't going to happen in modern mma. Not as many cans/journeymen to fight and mma doesn't typically just feed guys cans like boxing does, no peds for recovery in between fights. MMA camps seem to be more grueling and dangerous than boxing camps too.


And of course people are much more knowledgeable about how dangerous head trauma is than they were back then.
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i know all these arguments.
what i'm saying it's kinda hard to look at the fighters today as "legends" when they seem concerned, along with their fans, to promote fighting as some healthy lifestyle possibility. it never was, and never will be. you sacrifice on the altar of the blood gods.
what, am i supposed to look with admiration at dudes concerned by cte and declining fights because their recuperation is not 100% complete? fighting once every 15 months because i have pain in my side?
nah, i'm good. they can do their thing, but don't expect me to put their face on my wall.
plenty of better examples in the past.
 
Davidjacksonjones said:
Jones beat Shogun to become the youngest champion in ufc history at 23
Ever since then he has only been in title fights
Now at 35 he is still a champion at HW
Apart from a few close decisions and a no contest he never really lost since then

Jones bless
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Jones is as close to perfection as possible for a fighter and man

Conor is also still on top lol
 
Fox by the Sea said:
i know all these arguments.
what i'm saying it's kinda hard to look at the fighters today as "legends" when they seem concerned, along with their fans, to promote fighting as some healthy lifestyle possibility. it never was, and never will be. you sacrifice on the altar of the blood gods.
what, am i supposed to look with admiration at dudes concerned by cte and declining fights because their recuperation is not 100% complete? fighting once every 15 months because i have pain in my side?
nah, i'm good. they can do their thing, but don't expect me to put their face on my wall.
plenty of better examples in the past.
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I dunno like anything else in life, people are going to look at the people that came before and see how did they do things, and how did it work out for them? People saw all the company man, just bleed fight anyone guys end up broke. Just taking a ton of tough fights and lots of damage without trying to get more money and elevate their way up the card, didn't work out for most of those guys. We're 30+ years removed from the early NHB days. 20+ years removed from the start of the "modern" era. A long way from the days where guys were only fighting because they loved to fight and nobody cared about money.


You're free to like or dislike whatever of course, but expectations should be reasonable. It's not really reasonable to expect fighters to just shut up, except whatever lowball they get from the ufc, and march off to take life altering damage for peanuts. This is their career, not a hobby. A lot of the things fans dislike about modern mma are the ufcs fault. They chose to cut sponsors, keep the pay scale low and extremely top heavy, lean on fighters with the threat of cuts or other punishment to try to strongarm them into shit deals. Hell they even brought in USADA voluntarily.
 
Jesus H. Sherdog said:
Neither guy was in their peak but those are still impressive wins, especially for someone in their third year. You say Bader was green but he had more experience than Jones and was coming off of a win over Little Nog. Shogun was not in his prime but he was UFC champ ffs
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I said they were good wins.
 
Soggust said:
“We’re working on it”

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Honestly if they're not going to let them use peds for recovery I'm down with more showcase fights. As long as they don't take the place of a meaningful fight. That's the only way we're gonna see guys fighting often, is if some of the fights are easy. People forget they fought more back in the day but not against killers every fight out.
 
It's because when you're at the top you're having.to fight the best guys over and over again, there's seldom any weak opponents. Then you factor in the fact that there's so many ways to lose in MMA, It just makes it that much more difficult to stay at the top.
 
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sonhow said:
Life sucks and then you die
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Yup, simply put but true AF. Me and my son laid everything out on the table tonight. We both are gonna start going to therapy again, life is a struggle indeed.
 
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