The time on top is short lived

[C0NCH3TO]

Only Fedor, Jones and Habib managed to stay on top and remain undefeated for 25+ fights. That’s hard as shit to do. Mma is fucking ruthless and it’s insanely difficult to make a comeback if you are old and racked too many L’s.

 

[Ghostoftheville]

It is NOW. GSP fought like TWICE in the UFC then got his first shot at the WW belt when he was 22ish yrs old. then he fought FIVE MORE TIMES IN ONE YEAR and got another shot. Johnson won the Flyweight belt when he was 26. Of course Jon Jones fought 7X in 3 years and won the belt when he was 24ish. You just don't see men (who knows with WMMA) come in at such young ages now, get a few fights in a couple or 3 years and get a shot at the belt, do you? It seems now that most people who get a shot are in their early 30's now. Once you have 10 fights plus under your belt, and you finally win the belt in your 30's, the money is so much better that you don't want to lose the belt, and you want to make EVERY FIGHT COUNT, MONEY-WISE. I'm just speculating because I haven't looked at the full span of champions, but that's the general impression I get.

Those examples are also exceptions not the expectation even in their time.
GSP fought for the belt at 24 in his 8th fight. But Hughes, won the title at 28 in his 33rd fight.
If Khamzat hadn't had his litany of issues he would have fought for the title probably before turning 29.

 

[13 others]

That’s cool but it wasn’t a convincing win. Do you even know the breakdown of the rounds?

How could it be a convincing win when it hinges on round 1, media scores were split.

I think you are misattributing sterlings dominance in the rounds he won to the how convincing his win was. He won 2 and 3 more clearly than Yan 4 and 5. But, no 10-8’s, so it came down to a low output round1.


Again I don’t know why people are rewriting history on that fight when the decision was very disputed at the time.

It was only really disputed by people that were raging at Sterling from his "acting" in the first fight. If you watched it without bias, it was a pretty clear Aljo win.

I don't even see the point of talking about how the judges scored it too much, they are notorious for making the wrong calls. Aljo won convincingly and the scorecards reflected the W for him. Both guys went on to get dominated by O'Malley anyways.

 

[Southpoor97]

It was only really disputed by people that were raging at Sterling from his "acting" in the first fight. If you watched it without bias, it was a pretty clear Aljo win.

I don't even see the point of talking about how the judges scored it too much, they are notorious for making the wrong calls. Aljo won convincingly and the scorecards reflected the W for him. Both guys went on to get dominated by O'Malley anyways.

Ok so now I know you’re a bitter troll (trying to claim Yan was dominated by Sean when he clearly won and trying to pretend round 1 in Yan sterling wasn’t close)

That ko hurt you bad? Hehe

bye bye sterling

 

[Southpoor97]

So happy rn that sterling got ko. All these losers trying to discredit Yan when he will be champ by end of 2024

 

[GOATtalks]

This sport is brutal, and the mistake almost everyone makes is not knowing when to get out. Only GSP and Khabib did it right, Silva, Fedor, BJ Penn and many others stuck around far too long. If you get KOd in your mid to late 30s you should hang it up, it only goes down hill from there.

The people who retired early are the only ones who retired on time.

Bullshit.

If Glover and Jan would’ve taken your advice, they would’ve never fulfilled their dream of becoming a UFC champion

 

[Iroh]

even if that's so, there's still 100 fights left.
what champ today has 100 fights?

Sugar Ray wasn't doing MMA. The chance of injury is much higher in MMA, because they have to do much more diverse training and that means much more of the body will get strained over a longer time, because multidisciplinary training usually takes longer, than singularly disciplinary training. Also, an injury is much harder to work around, because it is so multidimensional.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Sugar Ray wasn't doing MMA. The chance of injury is much higher in MMA, because they have to do much more diverse training and that means much more of the body will get strained over a longer time, because multidisciplinary training usually takes longer, than singularly disciplinary training. Also an injury is much harder to work around, because it is so multidimensional.

nah.

 

[Iroh]

nah.

Yah

 

[GOATtalks]

The exceptions to the rules are guys like Silva, GSP, Jones, MM.

But the majority are lucky to defend the belt two or three times. I just saw embedded with Weidman and it's crazy to think how dominant he was and one mistake in the fight with Rockhold seemed to derail everything.

He had a great career but everyone is so vulnerable to that 1 sudden loss that changes everything. Garbrandt, Rockhold, Whittaker, Cyborg, Ronda, Tate etc. It comes then it's gone. And it's very hard to get back in the win column consistently after that happens. It'll be interesting to see what happens to someone like Usman after dropping two to Leon, the first one tht he was winning comfortably. Sort of like Yan, DQd from a fight he was gonna win then loses the rematch convincingly and hits a skid.

Put into perspective those long reigning champions like JJ and GSP who literally retired before losing the belt. Impressive.

You’re over exaggerating a bit. There are many more guys who had been on top for a long time. Izzy, Volkanovski, Holloway just to name a few recent ones.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Yah

nah.

 

[markantony20]

That’s why I love this sport with all my heart.

MMA is probably more dynamic than any other sport.


It would be incredibly incredulity difficult for a wladimir klitschko type title reign.

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

nah.

Boxing training is piss compared to MMA

An hour or 2 of pads and bags plus a few rounds of sparring Vs boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, bjj plus MMA specific sessions.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Boxing training is piss compared to MMA

An hour or 2 of pads and bags plus a few rounds of sparring Vs boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, bjj plus MMA specific sessions.

is that why they're tired all the time and need 15 months in between losing in 2 minutes? <45>

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

is that why they're tired all the time and need 15 months in between losing in 2 minutes? <45>

You're clearly a keyboard warrior ser.

It brings too much wear and tear. Look how many varied injuries these guys get. Boxers will normally get bad hands at most.

If they were allowed to juice hard like in the pre USADA era, that'd change everything.

There's a reason why middle weight and above went to shit after USADA.