THE REPORT, buttoned up (SCO Thread v. 33)

[SBJJ]

That, along with "What the fuck does democrats paying for information in cash have to do with trump's culpability."

You were screaming that seeking info from foreigners was collusion dummy. So I just pointed out that one side not only sought info from foreigners but actually paid for it.

Using your partisan logic the Clinton campaign is also guilty of collusion. Since handing the foreign agent money is the best evidence one can have.

 

[JamesRussler]

Their more focused on taking down a personality than they are with building good policy. Trump has them distracted.

“Distracted.” LOL. That’s putting it lightly. I’d say he has spiritually cucked them. He has hollowed out their souls and taken up permanent residence therein.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

What an epic meltdown the Left is having. Reality still hasn’t sunk in for some of them. So sad. Can’t say they don’t deserve it tho. What are the chances ol’ Nancy gives in and pushes through an impeachment vote? I’d say zero. There’s going to be a ton of infighting about it too. SMH

Pelosi doesn't have an easy task, but the longer I watch her the more I appreciate her political savvy. I disagree with her on basically everything, but I like her. She's tough and smart.

 

[JamesRussler]

Pelosi doesn't have an easy task, but the longer I watch her the more I appreciate her political savvy. I disagree with her on basically everything, but I like her. She's tough and smart.

Agreed. She’s pretty much the moderate voice in her party now. That’s pretty scary.

 

[Darkballs]

Well, I do think it would have been a bit worse if the Trump campaign was trying to pay Russian agents for info. But hey that's just me....and actually I believe it might be illegal

Guess we just disagree.

Well maybe, although they both involve working with a foreign state.

But why are you arguing this point? It's only trump, not democrats, accused of seeking information stolen by a foreign intelligence service. You're trying to equivocate that, with democrats paying a private citizen for lawfully retained information. Are you saying the later is worse here, just because it involved cash? The distinction between private person and foreign intelligence service, isn't important to you?

 

[Darkballs]

1. Right, so you are in full throttle semantic retreat from collusion accusations then?

Collusion is an irrelevant term that has no legal relevance here. It is a non-thing. Trump could not be found guilty of collusion, as that crime does not exist. That's the entire reason trump has latched onto that term, and the reason why you brought it up here.

You might as well be celebrating that the report found no evidence of bamboozling.

He directly admits he can't establish that there was any collusion, conspiracy, coordination, or any of that between the Russians and the Trump campaign.

Again, bullshit. Mueller connects the trump campaign to a third party working with russian intelligence. Barr concludes that this buffer makes conspiracy with the russian state impossible, because there was a middle man.

It's dishonest to characterize that as no collusion, coordination, etc.

 

[SBJJ]

Well maybe, although they both involve working with a foreign state.

But why are you arguing this point? It's only trump, not democrats, accused of seeking information stolen by a foreign intelligence service. You're trying to equivocate that, with democrats paying a private citizen for lawfully retained information. Are you saying the later is worse here, just because it involved cash? The distinction between private person and foreign intelligence service, isn't important to you?

Christ dude. I'm pointing out that if seeking info from a foreigner is collusion. Then paying for info is also collusion.

And lol at foreign intelligence service. It's as if the Mueller Report means nothing to you

And double lol at private citizen. Steele was a former spy getting info from fucking lowlife Russians. This is the same shit u are accusing the Trump campaign of with Wikileaks being the middle man with Russia

It's like you only see the seedy shit on one side.....the side you hate.

 

[Darkballs]

Using your partisan logic the Clinton campaign is also guilty of collusion. Since handing the foreign agent money is the best evidence one can have.

No dipshit. Paying a private individual from Britain for background report is not the same as accepting information from that russian state that you know was stolen.

 

[SBJJ]

Collusion is an irrelevant term that has no legal relevance here. It is a non-thing. Trump could not be found guilty of collusion, as that crime does not exist. That's the entire reason trump has latched onto that term, and the reason why you brought it up here.

You might as well be celebrating that the report found no evidence of bamboozling.



Again, bullshit. Mueller connects the trump campaign to a third party working with russian intelligence. Barr concludes that this buffer makes conspiracy with the russian state impossible, because there was a middle man.

It's dishonest to characterize that as no collusion, coordination, etc.

So you are saying any media outlet that reports Wikileaks info is colluding with Russia

And actually read what the report says about Wikileaks and the campaign

 

[glenwo2]

uh,

Mi español es parecido a un portero en un cine pornographía, pero:

¿dónde está el cuarto de baño?

Hooray for Spanish Porn.

 

[glenwo2]

Friendly heads up, I just reported you to ICE.

You should report Fawlty first. I only THINK I know Spanish.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

He directly admits he can't establish that there was any collusion, conspiracy, coordination, or any of that between the Russians and the Trump campaign..

Again, bullshit. Mueller connects the trump campaign to a third party working with russian intelligence. Barr concludes that this buffer makes conspiracy with the russian state impossible, because there was a middle man.

It's dishonest to characterize that as no collusion, coordination, etc.

You say it is dishonest, but Mueller says exactly that: "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities." Do you think Mueller is dishonest?

 

[Darkballs]

So you are saying any media outlet that reports Wikileaks info is colluding with Russia

Any media outlet that knew the information given to them by wikileaks has been stolen first by russian intelligence, and knowingly lied and tried to obfuscate that by having a middleman, who pays dudes to bang his wife, being the go between; that would be in the same ballpark.

 

[SBJJ]

No dipshit. Paying a private individual from Britain for background report is not the same as accepting information from that russian state that you know was stolen.

Have u not seen what the report says about Wikileaks and the campaign

Please provide a source for the information the Trump administration accepted from Wikileaks

And yea. Steele was the middle man for Russian misinformation. And Steele is a foreign agent himself

 

[SBJJ]

Any media outlet that knew the information given to them by wikileaks has been stolen first by russian intelligence, and knowingly lied and tried to obfuscate that by having a middleman, who pays dudes to bang his wife, being the go between; that would be in the same ballpark.

Did you just have a stroke?

Source for what you just posted. What is this info that the campaign obtained that was not already public?

 

[Darkballs]

You say it is dishonest, but Mueller says exactly that: "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities." Do you think Mueller is dishonest?

And what did Mueller say???????

That trump used wikileaks as a go between, even though he knew where they got their info from.

Mueller only distinguishes that there isn't that direct link from trump campaign - russia, but rather trump campaign - wikileaks - russia.

You want to champion that point as if it exonerates trump, you go ahead.

 

[SBJJ]

And what did Mueller say???????

That trump used wikileaks as a go between, even though he knew where they got there info from.

Mueller only distinguishes that there isn't that direct link from trump campaign - russia, but rather trump campaign - wikileaks - russia.

You want to champion that point as if it exonerates trump, you go ahead.

I'm thinking you are confused.

Please source the secret info obtained from Wikileaks

 

[Darkballs]

I'm thinking you are confused.

Please source the secret info obtained from Wikileaks

The information stolen from democratic servers by russian agents and passed on to wikileaks.

 

[SBJJ]

The information stolen from democratic servers by russian agents and passed on to wikileaks.

The info released publicly? Again, please source what ACTUAL info was passed to the Trump campaign not already released publicly first

Yes, you are 100% confused here. Go read what the report actually says on this matter.

 

[Darkballs]

The info released publicly? Again, please source what ACTUAL info was passed to the Trump campaign not already released publicly first

Yes, you are 100% confused here. Go read what the report actually says on this matter.

I'm unaware of this retarded defense.

Are you saying that the trump campaign gets a pass for working with russia (with a wikileaks intermediary) because the information they received was publicly available already?