The Profound Implications of Islam's and Strickland's Wins

Conan the K-9 said:
It’s also good to remember that the dagis train like professionals from a very early age. They might have ”tough upbringing” but in a different sense, than fighters really coming from poor conditions.
They really have never worked (in a real job) a day in their life. Everything revolves around sports and winning at all costs for them, just like it used to be in the East Germany.
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No they actually did, Khabib was selling vegetables and Islam was a farmer
 
maximus__ said:
The soviet system is a meat grinder with special sauce added. They throw everyone in and destroy 100 to get that 1 top athlete. We have seen heaps of these guys also come across and not be as successful, they also have a pretty good history of popping for PEDS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Bagautinov

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2019...me-usada-ban-steroids-drug-testing-russia-mma

https://www.mmaweekly.com/news/two-russian-fighters-suspended-by-usada-for-ufc-anti-doping-violation

Volk on the other hand is a bit more unique. Small striker with excellent footork who fights well on the outside.
Islam got him with no camp and I think we see Ilia try to go to that headkick in the next fight and get countered as a result.
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So Islam is like sausage, just w/o pork additves
 
HHJ said:
Islam is so good because of the combined training in dagestan with the AKA striking added,as well as the top non dagi input in grappling they get from there,having a guy like cormier w Olympic level grappling experience teaching.
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Yes. Quite prescient of Abdulmanap to decide to send his boys there.
 
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Dirty Frank said:
Yes. Quite prescient of Abdulmanap to decide to send his boys there.
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He never had khabib sparring before AKA,but Javier said it was going to be a must from this point forward and abdulmanap agreed.
 
moosaev said:
He arguably lost 4-1 when he had a full camp and a home crowd advantage, I think Islam is just better than him.
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He also arguably won and had Islam looking crazy and Islam had a home crowd advantage as well and a full camp
 
These guys from poor countries that are involved in national sports just fucking train all damn day long from an early age

Theres nothing to do at their broke ass home, so they just stay in the gym all damm day long refining different techniques to occupy the time

Strickland on the other hand, fights with great reflexes and vision. There’s just guys out there that have a striking intuition to not get hit and some can do it waay better than others. Yes, some of it can be taught in the gym, but there is something to say about one’s natural defensiveness I believe
 
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moosaev said:
He arguably lost 4-1 when he had a full camp and a home crowd advantage, I think Islam is just better than him.
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He arguably won 48-47 if you give him an extremely close 2nd round. I think in the future scoring will be adjusted and the 4th which was given to Islam at the time(rightfully so even if I disagree) will actually be scored for Volk. We have started to see a shift where the offensive fighter is rewarded regardless of position, which is what the rules say.

They fought in Perth which is 4+hours away from Sydney by plane. Sure Volk didn't have to go international, but it's less of an advantage than 99% of US based fighters get every single card just by fighting in their own country.
 
usernamee said:
Not to mention he was almost KOed by that exact kick in the first fight they had even.
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It's almost like he was able to defend it better when he was prepared for the fight or something...

Volk was doing well in the clinch against the cage and able to reverse Islam quite well, but Islam adjusted and employed the muay thai clinch.

You would almost think that Islam had just run a full camp preparing for Charles who likes to use the muay thai clinch and Volk had just spent 12 days cutting weight instead of preparing for a fight.

It's almost like doing a camp even for another fighter, allows you to fight better or something.
 
Masturbin said:
Strickland breaks some fondamentals but he has solid basis tho, mainly in boxing.
I think Strickland gonna stay a decent fighter even when older.

He's got a good understanding of mma and boxing defense.
He manages to implement his gameplan of high volume pressure most of the time.

He just does not have any ability to adapt and change his gameplan. All his fights are a blurr with him going forward with his hands up and a stick in his ass.

He had a good match up vs Izzy weirdly enough.
I just don't see Strickland adapting if he has to face a bad match up. (Wrestler, counter striker with power)
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Sean have Good Grappling Skills too I don't know why he tried striking with Izzy he's crazy but worked and he win.

Masvidal say Sean destroy Many Wrestlers and Black Belts of BJJ in Gym.
 
Goutfather said:
i guess it’s like the old soviet mindset of “be the best at all costs.” they used to pump their athletes full of all sorts of experimental shit. hell, maybe they still do.

anyway, i don’t hold it against islam that he abused meldonium. is it cheating? maybe. but so what? lots of guys cheat. he’s still a great fighter even though he took peds. besides, meldonium sucks. probably the most worthless ped known to russia.
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why bring in ped's and russia as something unique? western athlethes have never been caught?
some of the greatest athletes and fighters that got caught roiding are not from russia. some of them got caught post carreer or even post mortem

it is super easy to say that eastern europeans and russians are doping, while not mentioning that the best of the best that got caught were also from the west and other places
 
don't ask said:
This was a thought-provoking post. I almost never see that around here unless it's a titties gif. Liked.
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I read the word intangible like 4 times in 1,5 sentences and noped the fuck out of there. It's 10pm on a Friday night, aint nobody got time for that.
 
Megatronlee said:
He also arguably won and had Islam looking crazy and Islam had a home crowd advantage as well and a full camp
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No, he didn’t arguably win. That was just another false mma narrative, Volk was graded on a curve.
 
maximus__ said:
He arguably won 48-47 if you give him an extremely close 2nd round. I think in the future scoring will be adjusted and the 4th which was given to Islam at the time(rightfully so even if I disagree) will actually be scored for Volk. We have started to see a shift where the offensive fighter is rewarded regardless of position, which is what the rules say.

They fought in Perth which is 4+hours away from Sydney by plane. Sure Volk didn't have to go international, but it's less of an advantage than 99% of US based fighters get every single card just by fighting in their own country.
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You’re proving my point buddy, you have to squint really hard to give Volk the edge, I can give islam 4 rounds without breaking much of a sweat. That should tell you who won the fight. Volk is 0-2 against islam with a brutal KO in one of those loses, he’s simply not as good a fighter.
 
moosaev said:
No, he didn’t arguably win. That was just another false mma narrative, Volk was graded on a curve.
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Nah really bruh. He was cooking his ass. I’d they had 7 rounds it would have been a WRAP
 
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