Law THE POLICE SHOOTING/USE OF FORCE MEGATHREAD: discussions to determine if justified or not

They were not convicted of anything, but not surprised a retard like you doesn’t know the distinction. TN vs Garner. Subject has a gun and approaching the officers like he owns the place. And I didn’t make it about race you twat, ben crump did like always. I just broke down the shooting and ridiculous settlement and his cut. I treated everyone with respect regardless of race or even guilt. But then, you’re the idiot that tried to claim I have murdered people in the line of duty, so this is expected. You’re an absolute joke
You protest things way too much. Usually that is a good indication of guilt. Pretty easy to see by your posts that you hate people that are not the same color as you. You hated an ENTIRE city (Cleveland) and you were some how trusted to enforce laws? Scary to think of how many people were wrongfully convicted just because you had a bad day (maybe your wife mouthed of or got out of line, which you surely corrected) and are rotting in jail
 
My bad. I thought it referred to the suspect because on my screen, it says “police fatally shoot abduction” and then it goes off the screen. And it was early ass in the morning and I have been up since 2347 hrs due to back spasms and I just clicked on the video. So I wasn’t paying close attention. Normally, I pay attention to detail, which is kind of my thing. Cut me some slack on this one, k?
Slack given.
 
Cut me some slack on this one, k?

Slack given.

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You protest things way too much. Usually that is a good indication of guilt. Pretty easy to see by your posts that you hate people that are not the same color as you. You hated an ENTIRE city (Cleveland) and you were some how trusted to enforce laws? Scary to think of how many people were wrongfully convicted just because you had a bad day (maybe your wife mouthed of or got out of line, which you surely corrected) and are rotting in jail

Wow. Just wow. The things you say are absolutely insane. First, you actually accused me of committing murder. What a retard you are. Now, you accuse me of wrongfully convicting people simply because they are from Cleveland or “I had a bad day.” Then, you accuse me of domestic abuse. Again, you throw out the most retarded accusations with zero proof of any sort. I have never had a allegation of excessive force, wrongful conviction, or anything else of an illegal nature.

I wonder which banned poster you were. That conversation was in 2020 and I have talked about shitbags from Cleveland before that, yet here you are, with your usual hard-on for me. For the last time, I am just not that into you.

And I have never said I hate the entire city of Cleveland, and even if I did, so the fuck what? You can hate cities or states without hating the entire population. People do it for sports teams for Christ sake, but I never said I hate everyone from Cleveland. I hate gang members and drug dealers that cause harm to people and shoot people for wearing the wrong color of clothing based on some stupid gang shit, being from the wrong zip code(idiots that shout out their area code like Nathan Diaz), encroaching upon “their turf,” or any other excuse for violence.

I firmly stand by the fact that yes, I hate scumbag criminals that come to my mid-sized city from Cleveland for the sole purpose of committing crimes. No one moves here from Cleveland for legitimate job opportunities. They come here to sell drugs, commit other crimes-most of our shootings and murders are Cleveland transplants. An even smaller city near me has a serious issue with thugs from chicago moving there for the purpose of running the drug and gang trade.

Other cities have their own thug problem due to bigger city transplants. There is no reason I should know about euclid Ohio, but I do because we had a sect of a gang move here from there and they kidnapped a girl and we got to kick in the door to the hotel room. You would have loved it. They grabbed her from a 7-11 parking lot at gunpoint, so I got to point my pew pew at some thug taking a piss because I was the second one through the door and I took the right side, which happened to have the bathroom in a shitty super 8 motel. They had a ahit ton of drugs and guns. This was the end of my first week in uniform, but I have dealt with many assholes from there and the general Cleveland area. They’re all punks from a big city trying to be big fish in a small pond. But you would defend them because they are criminals. You hate cops so much, which tells me you have probably been arrested before and have a chip on your shoulder.
 
Worst story I've seen in awhile....

All need to be fired at the minimum. No way they can go back to duty after this.

Charged? Maybe...
This is really sad.

One was trying to stop them from shooting but the others should be fired I would think. The one that shot first for sure and maybe some type of charges for him.
 
This is really sad.

One was trying to stop them from shooting but the others should be fired I would think. The one that shot first for sure and maybe some type of charges for him.
From what I'm reading she was hit when they indiscriminately shot into the vehicle. This breaks the rules for target identification and target isolation, which are necessary for deadly force usage. And then to shoot her when she's running to them for help. Absolutely insane. She had no weapon, intent or delivery system, which are other elements that must be present to make a deadly force decision.
 
Slack given.

Gee, if only @Via Heeto would give me some slack. He said I am a murderer, have wrongfully arrested and convicted people that are rotting in prison, and beat my wife. And in the same breath, he says I am lying about ever being a cop and that I was fired for criminal reasons. He’s such a bully and so damn witty to boot.

Just kidding. He’s a fucking cunt that has the debating skills and intelligence of a retarded salamander
 
From what I'm reading she was hit when they indiscriminately shot into the vehicle. This breaks the rules for target identification and target isolation, which are necessary for deadly force usage. And then to shoot her when she's running to them for help. Absolutely insane. She had no weapon, intent or delivery system, which are other elements that must be present to make a deadly force decision.

I agree but I thought he was shooting at them from in the car and that's when they started to shoot. Then she got out of the car and ran toward them to escape and that's when they shot her.
 
Gee, if only @Via Heeto would give me some slack. He said I am a murderer, have wrongfully arrested and convicted people that are rotting in prison, and beat my wife. He’s such a bully and so damn witty to boot.

Just kidding. He’s a fucking cunt that has the debating skills and intelligence of a retarded salamander
He gets a kick out of trolling you. He tried chiming in with bullshit in the Detective Diller thread and I told him to shut the fuck up. That was the end of the conversation.
 
I agree but I thought he was shooting at them from in the car and that's when they started to shoot. Then she got out of the car and ran toward them to escape and that's when they shot her.
Ok if he was shooting from the vehicle, that makes more sense and while it sucks she got hit, them shooting while she was coming to them was inexcusable. Someone tried saying "what if she had a bomb?" <23>Think of how horrible the end of her life was. Watches her mother get murdered, is terrorized by her father and then killed by the only people who could get her out of the situation. Beyond tragic.
 
Wow. Just wow. The things you say are absolutely insane. First, you actually accused me of committing murder. What a retard you are. Now, you accuse me of wrongfully convicting people simply because they are from Cleveland or “I had a bad day.” Then, you accuse me of domestic abuse. Again, you throw out the most retarded accusations with zero proof of any sort. I have never had a allegation of excessive force, wrongful conviction, or anything else of an illegal nature.

I wonder which banned poster you were. That conversation was in 2020 and I have talked about shitbags from Cleveland before that, yet here you are, with your usual hard-on for me. For the last time, I am just not that into you.
clearly you are that into me. Holy hell you write some long winded responses. I bet you wish you were able to get ahold of me back when you were an active, dirty cop. No telling which charges you could have drummed up on me!

and your quote was- Oh, hell yes I shit all over cleveland. It is a shithole

quality public servant right there
 
I agree but I thought he was shooting at them from in the car and that's when they started to shoot. Then she got out of the car and ran toward them to escape and that's when they shot her.
She was following the direct orders from an officer. She was clearly terrified and would’ve laid down flat and covered up, but for the screaming insistence of a cop, encouraging her to hurry and come over to them.

Considering the mom and daughter are dead the only person left to feel terrible for is The Cop who was trying to do the right thing and get the girl over to them.
 
Rob Adams July 2022 San Bernardino

Police were called to an illegal gambling establishment over reports of a man with a gun threatening people. Police arrive in an unmarked police vehicle and park to conduct surveillance before approaching several suspects outside.

Within a few second, adams removes a gun from his waist and holds it in his right hand as he strolls up to the police car in a somewhat aggressive manner like he determines who can come into the lot. He was a suspect in an armed robbery at that location previously but not sure what came of that.

Police exit the vehicle and give verbal commands according to police and witnesses. Adams turns and runs and begins to take cover behind a vehicle and is shot as he is throwing the gun up onto the roof of the building. Family contends it was a cellphone, yet you can see him him underhand throwing the gun up onto the roof.

In no surprise, ben crump, called it an execution and sued the city. Just a few days ago, the city paid 4 million to the family. crump got almost half of it-1.6 million. They made it about race-another black man murdered by police. Yet, like always, they ignore the fact that you have a criminal with an illegal gun approaching people like a thug. Who is most often and overwhelmingly the victims of gun violence in cities? Black males. Who is the shooter? Black males. No one will point this out that at some point, this dude probably would have been a shooter if he hadn’t been already. He was some kind of bodyguard for the illegal gambling place according to reports I read when this first came out.

Another family hits the shitbag lottery winning a huge settlement because their family member was a thug.



https://abc7.com/death-of-rob-marqu...-police-after-man-killed-by-officer/14590884/



Is there more to that video?

I just watched it and it there is no way you can tell what he threw up on the roof. I would venture to guess it was probably a gun based on how he was moving before he ran, but there is no way you can say that video shows him throwing a gun or a phone. You simply can't tell.

Also, you made it sound like the cops pulled up, told him what was what and then he ran and hid.

The cops pulled up in an unmarked car.

At 22 seconds into the video they started to climb out of the car and ran at the guy.

At 26 seconds he was already shot.

In what world did the cops have time to give any verbal commands in a span of 4 seconds?

This family got paid because these cops were completely retarded and you are framing it like they didn't do anything wrong LOLOLOL

What the fuck?
 
Is there more to that video?

I just watched it and it there is no way you can tell what he threw up on the roof. I would venture to guess it was probably a gun based on how he was moving before he ran, but there is no way you can say that video shows him throwing a gun or a phone. You simply can't tell.

Also, you made it sound like the cops pulled up, told him what was what and then he ran and hid.

The cops pulled up in an unmarked car.

At 22 seconds into the video they started to climb out of the car and ran at the guy.

At 26 seconds he was already shot.

In what world did the cops have time to give any verbal commands in a span of 4 seconds?

This family got paid because these cops were completely retarded and you are framing it like they didn't do anything wrong LOLOLOL

What the fuck?
he is a former cop. he is taking their side 99.9% of the time. He doesn't require actual proof. Their word is plenty
 
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he is a former cop. he is taking their side 99.9% of the time. He doesn't require actual roof. Their word is plenty

Evidently. I've never really paid attention to his posts, but goddamn the one I responded to was blatantly a lie lol

My God...
 
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