The Patterson Footage .....

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

Lots can be written off, plenty can't. A faker would need to account for weight, foot morphology, as well as stride. They'd also have to walk in a more linear fashion. Fakes made with wooden feet are an easy spot, as all you have to do is check to see if there are any compression lines or variation from print to print.

The amount of prints that could be legit is easily up in the hundreds. The late John Green compiled a database of reports and tracks, and guys like Bindernagel and Meldrum keep a collection of casts.

One way to "solve" this is to make several different fake prints of varying quality. And then bring them to investigators and see what they say. Without them knowing that all of them are 100% fake ofcourse.

Has something like that been done? Could give a decent indication of how much time and effort someone would need to put in the prints to fool experts. If it turns out only extremely high quality and difficult to make prints could fool them, it could lend some more credibility to some tracks being real. If it turns out even fairly simple and easy to make prints can fool them, that would make it more likely that all tracks are fake.

You'd have to make a decent amount of prints and involve a decent amount of Bigfoot experts to get a good result though. Would love it if something gets done. Do you know if something like this has happened before?

 

[BearGrounds]

One way to "solve" this is to make several different fake prints of varying quality. And then bring them to investigators and see what they say. Without them knowing that all of them are 100% fake ofcourse.

Has something like that been done? Could give a decent indication of how much time and effort someone would need to put in the prints to fool experts. If it turns out only extremely high quality and difficult to make prints could fool them, it could lend some more credibility to some tracks being real. If it turns out even fairly simple and easy to make prints can fool them, that would make it more likely that all tracks are fake.

You'd have to make a decent amount of prints and involve a decent amount of Bigfoot experts to get a good result though. Would love it if something gets done. Do you know if something like this has happened before?

I don't know if they've done such a thing, but I am fairly certain that Krantz has been taken before by a fake track.

I don't believe these men are above being fooled, but the likelihood of every print ever found being fake isn't probable given all the factors involved.

For example, a trailway featuring a 13 inch foot leaping twelve to fourteen feet at a time (Akansas 1851 eyewitness account of one running away) isn't going to be easily faked when taking into account the print anatomy in addition to the long stride. So there are plenty of indicators to look for in order to spot a fake.

Multiple hoaxers of incredible skill making thousands of prints for over a hundred years, while also dressing in convincing suits on occasion. Not impossible, but it would have to be absolutely elaborate.

 

[00 Buck]

If you're serious about Squatchin, use something to mask your scent.

That's not too hard to buy. Might pull up on the side of the road somewhere and look around.

I think one would probably have a better chance of filming one if you just sat down somewhere and put the camera facing behind your back and previewing with the phone app or something.

Then you might get like a partial side of the face shot behind a tree or something.

Flippin' frustrating!

Patterson is one lucky ass dude to capture what he did IMO.

They are rumoured to be smart and have language, good luck just catching these forest ninjas like some dumb ass bear or deer IMO.

Maybe explore waterways, they muffle your steps and may be used as navigation with plenty of cover from reeds and such.

Certainly will not knock on trees or do calls like some.

I wanna find out for myself!

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

I don't know if they've done such a thing, but I am fairly certain that Krantz has been taken before by a fake track.

I don't believe these men are above being fooled, but the likelihood of every print ever found being fake isn't probable given all the factors involved.

For example, a trailway featuring a 13 inch foot leaping twelve to fourteen feet at a time (Akansas 1851 eyewitness account of one running away) isn't going to be easily faked when taking into account the print anatomy in addition to the long stride. So there are plenty of indicators to look for in order to spot a fake.

Multiple hoaxers of incredible skill making thousands of prints for over a hundred years, while also dressing in convincing suits on occasion. Not impossible, but it would have to be absolutely elaborate.

I suppose. Would be cool if we got an answer some time though. I'm not a Bigfoot believer and I think the chance that he's real is extremely close to zero percent.

But to have a new species of big ape running around would be pretty cool.

Btw, this thread reminds me of that conspiracy thread in the war room. Did you check that link I posted a while back about why they aren't hiding a cure for cancer? Want to hear your thoughts on that.

 

[Philo-Publius]

To this day, it has never been proven false. The numerous hoax claims have been discredited, and I believe it is legit.

Special effects professionals to this day say they can't make a suit that has muscle movement and hair placement as real as that footage.



I believe most of the Bigfoot videos out there are fake, but I believe the Patterson footage - which just so happens to be the most famous - does show a unique animal. I believe Bigfoot may no longer exist, but faded out - but that Patterson and Gimlin caught one of them on video. I hope this thread evolves into solid debate from both sides, with good evidence being brought fourth.

Guy in a suit.

 

[franklinstower]

I knew a guy who said he had experienced bigfoot. He said you have to go way off trail and mask your scent totally and then sit all night in the dark with no technology and the likelyhood goes way up.

 

[00 Buck]

I knew a guy who said he had experienced bigfoot. He said you have to go way off trail and mask your scent totally and then sit all night in the dark with no technology and the likelyhood goes way up.

Sounds like it can result in either severe boredom or extreme terror.

I'd at least take a 44 magnum or better and hide it under a jacket.

How would you even see whatever it is to confirm that it's actually sasquatch without any light?

 

[franklinstower]

Sounds like it can result in either severe boredom or extreme terror.

I'd at least take a 44 magnum or better and hide it under a jacket.

How would you even see whatever it is to confirm that it's actually sasquatch without any light?

I haven't masked my scent but have sat out in the woods for long periods at night. I don't find it to be boring. There is nothing like listening to the woods.

As far as vision goes I never really asked him about that but when the moon is out you would be surprised how well you can see. In the winter its even brighter...

I usually have a pistol or a shotgun just in case.

 

[Roca]

What is this showing?

Some dude in a monkey suit walking through the woods?

 

[Roca]

Edit. This sounded like I supported the Op. Since I don't want to do that I am deleting this. Fuck him and fuck this fake, antiscience bullshit.

<{ByeHomer}>

 

[I Am Legion]

When order for any population to thrive, there must be enough for genetic diversity and to reproduce. Probably thousands needed. An animal of this size in this day and age, in that population would have been documented by now. Remains would have been found. Fossils at the very least. Some physical evidence, instead of all the bs hoaxes. No large mammal has been newly discovered in 100 years because technology does make a difference. We would find them. We do find smaller species of animals. It's fun to speculate, but Bigfoot is not real.

 

[spamking]

It would definitely be cool if we could find hard evidence, but regardless . . . it makes for some good story telling and television.