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The onus is on the striker to work on his takedown defense

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How pathetic that they only work on hitting the pads and mitts but don't put any focus on sprawling? The name of the game is to prevent others from implementing their game and then igniting your own offense.

Must be very easy to stand there and just hit pads all day while their coach yells 'good job' 'excellent' 'nice combo' ... where is the effort in that?

It's pathetic when they ignore such a large part of their craft and then try to put the blame on others instead of accepting the flaws in their own skills and game plan...
 
How pathetic that they only work on hitting the pads and mitts but don't put any focus on sprawling? The name of the game is to prevent others from implementing their game and then igniting your own offense.

Must be very easy to stand there and just hit pads all day while their coach yells 'good job' 'excellent' 'nice combo' ... where is the effort in that?

It's pathetic when they ignore such a large part of their craft and then try to put the blame on others instead of accepting the flaws in their own skills and game plan...

Are you talking about Sean? Apparently he was working on his TDD and getting up but he's just not good at it. This is why Cejudo was convinced he would lose to Merab because he was hearing just how bad it was going on camp for Sean.
 
MMA is a weird sport. The other major league sports emphasize winning but in MMA you have to win & be entertaining. Fighters are actually rewarded for talking damage and they actually created a fake belt to reward these types of fighters. In basketball or football, you don’t deviate from a successful strategy to give your opponent a chance, why should that be expected in MMA?
 
Yeah try to defend takedown against life long strong wrestler ( if u are not jose fuckin aldo)
 
They are workin on it, it just aint gonna be enough.

Some guys are EVENTUALLY gonna take you down if you aint knock them out

Porier clearly worked as hard as he could against Islam but it wasnt enough.

He even was able to fight back to his feet, but in the end he got taken down and subbed.

A great grappler can learn how to strike alot easier than a striker learning wrestling.

Only one GSP baby, and you aint him.
 
MMA is a weird sport. The other major league sports emphasize winning but in MMA you have to win & be entertaining. Fighters are actually rewarded for talking damage and they actually created a fake belt to reward these types of fighters. In basketball or football, you don’t deviate from a successful strategy to give your opponent a chance, why should that be expected in MMA?
Prize fighting is different, a seperate category from major league sports.
 
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Grapplers should attempt a sub or damage
It's exactly this seeing as the rules do state the scoring focus is on these, not simply getting the position. In fact they were specifically re-written to try and move away from TDs by themselves being scored so heavily.

Things like TDs do need to be scored on their own so TS isn't exactly wrong, but he's not exactly right either that people complaining have no valid point. The rules clearly do expect more from fighters.
 
You actually think they don't work on wrestling? Just because you train TDD doesn't mean you'll be immune to takedowns.
No but it does mean you should at least try something to get up sir.
If you have no options to get up... you're working all that hard.
 
Do keyboard warriors not understand that you don't just get great TDD just because you train it a lot? They all train it a lot, obviously. It has more to do with natural talent, suitable attributes(more on that later) and the quality of training and training partners in that respect which many fighters cannot afford.

For example Cro Cop. Obviously developed great TDD quickly. He had incredibly strong legs and a natural talent for it, with a lack of injuries to prevent him from developing his TDD. And because of his K-1 days he had money so he could even fly in great wrestlers and BJJ players to come to Croatia to train with him.

A lanky mid level fighter with knee injuries and other physical issues who can't afford to train with high level wrestlers and is stuck in the same MMA gym for years on end, yeah he might never develop good TDD because of his situation. It's not because he doesn't want to get better TDD, you dopes.
 
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