The Myth of Sergei Pavlovich's Power

[SeattleFightFan]

Basically, the majority of Pavlovich' KOs are with his opponents "sulled-up" in a ball, not wanting to fight anymore. (Tuvasa, Lewis, Blaydes, etc.).

And you believe this proves he lacks real power?

 

[CedricBee]

And you believe this proves he lacks real power?

Compare his fight against Reem, and Francis v Reem … The difference in power is blatant. Francis has that level of power that seems to shock “professionals”, he reminded me of Carwin. Sergei, not so much. Great power though, but guys don’t react like they’ve never been hit like that a la Carwin or Francis.

 

[nonoob]

Pavlovitch's Sambo/wrestling would be the basis of his gameplan.

This. It makes fighters aware they Will Be Wrestled, and his striking surprises them, not in a good way. His punching power does need work, and his chin isn't bad after seeing him blasted by Blades.

Chardog "blocking his shots look painful..."​

Pav Brings The Pain - There is No Doubt he is, or will be, a top HW contender with his style.

 

[Uber_Noober]

Ngannou doesn’t have 30 million dollar knock out power.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Compare his fight against Reem, and Francis v Reem … The difference in power is blatant. Francis has that level of power that seems to shock “professionals”, he reminded me of Carwin. Sergei, not so much. Great power though, but guys don’t react like they’ve never been hit like that a la Carwin or Francis.

Ya, this is why I shouldn't have engaged.

The argument that "he lacks power, the proof is that Ngannou has more power" is...not a good argument.

TS is right in that he is fast and has accuracy and overwhelms opponents. He hurts them, then goes in for the kill. But he doesn't one punch KO them.

I guess I missed the scads of arguments where fans confused him with a one punch KO artist, but when TS is arguing against these mythical fans, he's probably going to win.

Happy Monday to you, sir.

 

[jjjjjjjjjjohnny]

as much as it pains me to say this, jones probably doesn't have a competitor in the UFC today.

 

[snaportap21]

I just got finished watching his last four fights, none were by flatline/devastating KOs.

Instead, all of Pavlovich's knockouts came from very fast hands + nonstop swarming, where he simply overwhelmed his opponents with volume, relentlessness, and placement. Some of these "knockouts" actually looked like early ref stoppages, quite frankly.

Basically, the majority of Pavlovich' KOs are with his opponents "sulled-up" in a ball, not wanting to fight anymore. (Tuvasa, Lewis, Blaydes, etc.). Pavlovich certainly isn't leaving anyone "stiff and motionless" out cold on the floor, like Pereira has done, or that Ngannou has done.

I also noticed that Pavlovich got hit hard by Blaydes, who is a wrestler. If Pavlovich allows himself to take punches like that, from a guy like Ngannou, he's gonna be the one on his back and stiff.

I think he's smarter than Ngannou, and faster than Ngannou, but he sure doesn't hit like Ngannou.

It's a shame Francis has overestimated his importance in the fighting world, because if he were still in the UFC, it would be a hell of a fight to see these two. But they are ≠ in power.

Francis hits much harder than Pavlovich, but Pavlovich has faster hands, is more accurate — and throws with much more volume.

Sergei is more shannon Briggs than mike tyson. still has a ton of early knockouts but they are swarms of punches instead of one punch kos.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Ben Rothwell in BNFC reminds me of Pavlovich, a big guy just wading in throwing big punches. Neither have amazing power.

 

[matrixremaster]

He has the highest knockout % in UFC history.


Far ahead of Ngannou.

 

[KID Yamamoto]

He's knocked out 6 heavyweights in round 1. Thats crazy power any way you look at it

 

[WolverReem]

He has way better boxing. Ngannou just runs at people and windmills punches lol

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

He's knocked out 6 heavyweights in round 1. Thats crazy power any way you look at it

That is absolutely untrue. He didn't knock out any of them.

He swarmed them, overwhelmed them, and got them to curl up in balls to avoid the oncoming swarm.

He got six ref stoppages, due to curled/quitting opponents.

He has a vicious attack, yes, but is not "KOing" anyone.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

We'll find out vs High Level Striker / Gamer ... Gane.

This fight would tell us more about Pavlovich than all of his UFC fights thus far combined.

I don't think Pavlovich is interested in this fight at the moment, quite understandably, but fingers crossed TPTB at the UFC are able to make Gane/Pavlovich for the September UFC Paris card.

 

[Willek]

 

[matrixremaster]

That is absolutely untrue. He didn't knock out any of them.

He swarmed them, overwhelm them, and got them to curl up in balls to avoid the swarm.

He got six ref stoppages due to curled/quitting opponents.

He has a vicious attack, yes, but is not "KOing" anyone.

He is statistically more likely to finish his opponents by knockout than any other fighter in UFC history including Francis.

Say whatever you want, he gets the job done.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

He is statistically more likely to finish his opponents by knockout than any other fighter in UFC history including Francis.

By TKO or ref stoppage, perhaps. That's not an actual knockout.

I don't know his whole record, but does he have any flat-out, legit actual one-punch KO (meaning complete unconsciousness) on his résumé?

 

[Blastbeat]

Pav has remarkable hand speed for a big guy. his ability to chain punches into combinations is superb. its no wonder that a few of his opponents turtled up because when Pav smells blood he literally does not stop throwing. and theyre not windmill crazy haymakers; theyre quick, accurate punches that he sometimes changes mid throw (like the shovel/uppercut punch he knocked down Blaydes with). so what if he's not a one hitter quitter? he's obviously hitting hard enough to make people crumble after a few hits. i think his ability to throw those fast combinations is just as, if not more impressive than, the ability to one hit KO. other than prime Stipe i cant think of a HW in the last few years with quicker hands.

I don't know his whole record, but does he have any flat-out, legit actual one-punch KO (meaning complete unconsciousness) on his résumé?

yeah look at when he KO'd Golm. dude just slumped down awkwardly, he was donezo.

 

[Black Blood]

There comes a point where 'who has more power?' doesn't matter. A first round stoppage is a first round stoppage.

 

[markg171]

I've likened him to a Terminator / Michael Myers. He's obviously strong and powerful sure, no one's arguing he's not. But just like with them the biggest danger is really the fact that he just keeps coming at you. He's perfectly willing to absorb some strikes if it means he gets to hit you back, and he tends to throw back more than once when he does. So far, for the most part, it's worked out.

Just like with them you're either going to need to overpower them, or much more likely outsmart / outfight them.

 

[nonoob]

Pav's objective is to win, his game plan's success cannot be questioned.
One punch KO power hasn't been shown, it doesn't mean it's not there.