The most controversial/banned books and how you rate them?

[HOLA]

None, but if you want to be on a federal watchlist you need to procure a copy of

That's Amazon's #1 best seller in the Political Reference category.

 

[HOLA]

I've heard that in American prisons, your cred goes way up if you have a copy of this:

I've read it, I imagine it's similar to the conversations one would hear were they in a group being supervised by Nurse Ratched.

 

[HOLA]

I'd wager only about 15-20% of the War Room has read a book in the last year. 5-10% If we aren't counting R.L. Stine. We've tried to have book threads here before, they always fail.

Nice to see Mein Kampf is well read though.

 

[Losfer Words]

I don't know about banned, but Fields, Factories and Workshops of tomorrow is great. The Wretched of the Earth (1st chapter in particular). Demanding the Impossible. Killing Hope. Are a few off the top of my head.

 

[grimballer]

So what books are banned in America?

how about protocols of zion?

i know its banned in many western countries.

 

[sangreporsangre]

This one isn't a book but it is a highly controversial political writing, it's called "distortions at fourth hand". It got Noam Chomsky in trouble for "sympathizing with Pol Pot" but I feel that that was blown way out of proportion.
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19770625.htm

Yea that doesn't look so good in hindsight does it....I guess it's good to be sceptical of what the US government is telling you about communist governments and all, but they're basically saying in there to not give any credence to what refugees from the Killing Fields are saying because they're just telling the Americans what they want to hear. WTF dude. So like, after it was pretty much established that Pol Pot's regime was absolutely terrible, did they ever write anything about it again?

 

[JDragon]

Mein Kampf is just nuts. I still have the imagination that if everyone who possessed it in Germany would have actually read it, things might have turned out differently.

 

[HOLA]

how about protocols of zion?

i know its banned in many western countries.

It's not banned, it's right in Behold A Pale Horse.

Jew bashing takes a backseat to descriptions of sex when it comes to something Americans must be protected against.

 

[Ruprecht]

Australia's had a history of overbearing Government censorship, but it's mostly been prudery rather than politics.
A few that might blur the line I guess, in terms of homosexuality and, most recently, euthanasia.
Even in the cases where books are prohibited from local sale (such as "how to" books on making bombs, drugs, firearms or killing yourself/others), they aren't banned from private ownership except for restricted forms of pornography (child porn being the obvious one).

There's been a few "Jihadist" books banned lately as well, a couple of which I've read.

Sayyid Qutb's Milestones. Pretty standard mid-20th century revolutionary text (reads much like Lenin's What Is To Be Done? clothed in Islamic costume). I don't think this one actually ended up banned, but it's been challenged repeatedly in Australia and the UK.

One that definitely was banned is Abdullah Azzam's Defence of the Muslim Lands, which basically just frames the whole "conflict of civilisations" narrative and the Muslim obligations to wage both offensive and defensive jihad. His second book (also banned here) Join the Caravan, is essentially more of the same (a bit more focus on the financial obligation on Muslims internationally to support Jihad).

 

[HOLA]

Here...I'll show you rabid antisemites something beyond Hitler's shit.

Louis Ferdinand Celine's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Ferdinand_Céline

anti-Semitic pamphlets made during or shortly before WW2. He well, he went nuts. But he did go nuts with style. Inspired insanity. Not that balderdash from Hitler.

The world is full of people who call themselves refined but are not, I declare, the least
little bit refined. I, your servant,
fully believe that I myself am
refined. So it is! Genuinely
refined. I was reluctant to admit it until recently...I resisted... And then one day I gave in...
Too bad!... I am all the same a little embarrassed by my refinement... What is one going to
say? Pretend? Insinuate?
A valid man of refinement, refi
ned in terms of rectitude, of
dress, of social station,
ordinarily must write at least as do M. Gi
de, M. Vanderem, M. Benda, M. Duhamel, Mme.
Colette, Mme. Fémina, Mme. Valéry, the “French Theater”...to delight in
nuance...Mallarmé, Bergson, Alain...to ass-ream the adjective...to Goncourtize
3
...shit! to
ass-ream a gnat, to wax hysterical over Insigni
ficance, to babble-on while dressed in royal
purple, to pose for the gallery, to crow into the microphones... To reveal my “favorite
records”...my conference projects...
I would be able, I myself would easily be able to become a veritable stylist, a “relevant”
academic. It’s a matter of effort, over the course of months...maybe years... It would be
accomplished...as the Spanish proverb goes: “A great deal of Vaseline, and even more
patience, the elephant ass-ream the ant.”
Yet all the same I am too well-traveled,
too advanced, too jaded along the ill-advised
route of natural refinement...to turn back now, after a hard career as “a hard man amongst
hard men”! and then proceed to apply for the examination in doily-making! It is not possible!
And therein lies tragedy. How I was bound-up
with emotion...through my own refinement?
Here are the facts, the circumstances...

http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres6/CELINEtrif.pdf

 

[sangreporsangre]

I just might make that Spanish proverb my sig.

 

[HOLA]

Australia's had a history of overbearing Government censorship, but it's mostly been prudery rather than politics.
A few that might blur the line I guess, in terms of homosexuality and, most recently, euthanasia.
Even in the cases where books are prohibited from local sale (such as "how to" books on making bombs, drugs, firearms or killing yourself/others), they aren't banned from private ownership except for restricted forms of pornography (child porn being the obvious one).

There's been a few "Jihadist" books banned lately as well, a couple of which I've read.

Sayyid Qutb's Milestones. Pretty standard mid-20th century revolutionary text (reads much like Lenin's What Is To Be Done? clothed in Islamic costume). I don't think this one actually ended up banned, but it's been challenged repeatedly in Australia and the UK.

One that definitely was banned is Abdullah Azzam's Defence of the Muslim Lands, which basically just frames the whole "conflict of civilisations" narrative and the Muslim obligations to wage both offensive and defensive jihad. His second book (also banned here) Join the Caravan, is essentially more of the same (a bit more focus on the financial obligation on Muslims internationally to support Jihad).

Qutb and his tortured, sexually repressed little mind is probably more so than anyone else responsible for the rise of the modern blow shit for Allah fad.

 

[Luger]

None, but if you want to be on a federal watchlist you need to procure a copy of

One of the first books that I ever bought myself.
Looking back, my dad was a weirdo for letting me.

 

[HOLA]

I just might make that Spanish proverb my sig.

:icon_lol:

Yeah.

A great deal of Vaseline, and even more
patience, the elephant ass-ream the ant.”

It's a shame he went so nuts. His first two books were brilliant. And not racist in the slightest bit. It's really rare that a book makes me literally laugh out loud...Ilf and Petrov, Vonnegut at times, Gogol, a few rare others...but Celine could easily.


He was quite bitter towards the end.

“But maybe it's wrong of me to complain … I'm alive after all … and I lose an enemy or two every day … cancer, apoplexy, gluttony … it's a pleasure the number that pass on! … I'm not hard to please … a name! … another! … there are good things in life …”

 

[HOLA]

That is blow shit up for Allah, not blow for Allah - although the Afghans seem to be conflating the two.

 

[Ruprecht]

Qutb and his tortured, sexually repressed little mind is probably more so than anyone else responsible for the rise of the modern blow shit for Allah fad.

Yeah, the "alienated loser" vibe comes through loud and clear.
Not that his totalitarian ideas were particularly "muslim" in their ideological origins (not sure if he realised how much influence his Western education obviously had), but he was one of the first to justify Islamic revolution in nominally muslim countries with nominally muslim leadership.

 

[Luger]

Sayyid Qutb's Milestones. Pretty standard mid-20th century

I just recently got my hands on it and I have not read it yet.
Short book but seems to have influenced a whole lot of people.

 

[Rod1]

:icon_lol:

Yeah.

It's a shame he went so nuts. His first two books were brilliant. And not racist in the slightest bit. It's really rare that a book makes me literally laugh out loud...Ilf and Petrov, Vonnegut at times, Gogol, a few rare others...but Celine could easily.


He was quite bitter towards the end.

Its actually saliva not vaseline and fucked not ass reamed.

Didnt realized that saying came all the way from Spain, i thought it was just a local thing.

 

[Luger]

I managed to read through this one:

It was so over the top that it was funnt at times.
Got boring quickly, though.
De Sade was messed up, no doubt about that.

 

[Ruprecht]

I just recently got my hands on it and I have not read it yet.
Short book but seems to have influenced a whole lot of people.

Yeah, pretty dull rambling stuff to find inspirational. Doesn't do much of a job painting the "Islamic Utopia" he's aiming for.
I guess he just managed to tap into and focus a lot of feelings of powerlessness and conflicted Muslim identity in modernity.