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The middleweight "division".

Sweater of AV said:
Ah ok he's seen Wonderboy in 2014, Adesanya in 2019 and skipped the rest...

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I’ll be that guy and let you know.
There’s sherdoggers that know what happens in fights only because of the gifs on here.

one guy one replied he didnt know stipe and dc rematched... that happened twice
 
To be fair, a good chunk of the divisions in the UFC are awful. The best LHW isn’t at LHW. WW has been cleaned out and is god damned BORING. The best LW isn’t fighting at LW and if Oliveira retired there’d be no point in the division any longer. Women’s MMA is two fighters who’ve cleaned their divisions out and already settled their beef, and then a bunch of part time day care employees.
No cejudo and no DJ means the FLYW division has been cleaned out.


Competition is THIN almost everywhere it seems. Signing four 4-0 fighters every week doesn’t seem to be helping much.
 
KillerIsBack V2 said:
I’ll be that guy and let you know.
There’s sherdoggers that know what happens in fights only because of the gifs on here.

one guy one replied he didnt know stipe and dc rematched... that happened twice
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Yes my expectations are low, but I also don't mind making fun of them ;)
 
ThunderStruck said:
You don't realize it but you are extremely biased and no one can take you seriously.
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Who is the one with the yellow lmao. Check your own bias. If you had actually read any of my posts, I have demonstrated a willingness to change my mind when presented with good evidence.

And it makes sense the resident Izzy zealot @GoshiShun17 would like this. Very ironic that he would like a post about biases.

Also, if you want to debate my opinions, I'm happy to help. Point out which part of my post you disagree with, and we can go from there.
 
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Dana's Plight said:
Gegard is overrated but he handles Izzy easily. And same with Yoel if he just pushed a little more against a complete coward counter striker. Yoel should of trained in keeping an opponent on the ground once taken down cos Izzy not only has good TDD but very good at getting back instantly when taken down, like Dodson.
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lol at calling a world champion a coward
 
What is it with the middleweight division and hardly ever having great wrestlers?
 
LetThemBleed said:
Mousasi loses to Lovato Jr, fanboys oh he was juicing, beats a clearly shopworn Machida by split decision, fanboys oh Machida's still legit, beats Lima a WW, fanboy's oh Lima'd be a beast at MW despite fighting at WW, Mousasi beating him clearly shows he's the GOAT. Only thing worse is the Romero never lost a fight troupe.
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No nothing is more annoying than Mous fans. I've been hearing the hype how he's clearly the best Mw since before the King Mo fight. And I'm sure they wouldn't let it go before that I just hasn't started watching yet. I hate to pick apart records but almost all the good names are washed up except for prime Jacare. Then he lost all the big fights in the UFC( except for washed Weidman). But hey he beat 40yr Machida and 2 WWs!
The best needs to show up every time. He hasn't. done that.
 
Bisping euthanized division awhile ago but has nothing to do with today. The depth of UFC heavier divisions have come full circle( or almost). Today- if you happen to be a talented big welter, you could find success in middleweight division. Problem is welterweight having same problems( depth).
 
Chael_Sonnen said:
Now you are taking my words out of context. I said the Vettori fight was close, not that it was a wrongful decision. I agree, it was clearly 29/28, but it was far closer than Whittaker would have made it.

And Rob won the first Romero fight incredibly clearly. I get that your a bit biased, but he won both fights on average far more clearly than Izzy won his one.

I'm also not talking about the title. I'm talking about the fight. You said it yourself, it was a terrible fight.
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I don't consider a fight were there is a clear cut winner as 'close'. Izzy won 2 rounds decisively. Romero/Costa is an example of a close fight were you could genuinely score the first 2 rounds for either guy, Izzy/Vettori wasn't that. The Vettori fight was also his second fight in the UFC, both guys have improved significantly since. Saying Whittaker would have beat Vettori more easily is strictly hypothetical. We wouldn’t really know unless they actually fought.

I don’t see how you can say he won both fights on average ‘far more clearly’. I’ll give you the fight, he won 3 rounds to 2. There was a ton of controversy surrounding the result of the 2nd fight. You can dig up any old thread on here or look up the media scores of the 2nd fight and you’ll see the overwhelming majority have it scored either a draw or a win for Romero ( I scored it a draw personally).

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Chael_Sonnen said:
Who is the one with the yellow lmao. Check your own bias. If you had actually read any of my posts, I have demonstrated a willingness to change my mind when presented with good evidence.

And it makes sense the resident Izzy zealot @GoshiShun17 would like this. Very ironic that he would like a post about biases.

Also, if you want to debate my opinions, I'm happy to help. Point out which part of my post you disagree with, and we can go from there.
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Why bother debating an opinion that basically says that Izzy is terrible?
 
Izzy, Rob, Cannonier, Vettori, and hermansson are a solid top 5. The best? maybe not, but definitely not bad.
 
There is still good fights to be made, Israel Adesanya is simply on another level than the rest of the division.
 
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