Television THE MANDALORIAN Season 2 (Gina Carano Fired Due to Her Social Media Posts)

[Myrddin Wild]

For sure. IMO casting Natalie Portman was a major mistake. There was nothing unsalvageable about the plot (I didn't finish Clone Wars but watched enough to see it materially built Anakin's character and filled out his Padme relationship), but she came off like Hillary Clinton to Anakin's Bill. Real characters in their own right but not believable as a thing for anything other than plot.

After E2, this conversation probably happened behind the scenes at Lucasfilm:

"Boss, we need to talk. Natalie can't carry a scene with Hayden for shit and everyone on refdesk.com is saying Little House on the Prairie did it better with the frolicking in the hills shit."
Producer: "Well she's a big name and she's already under contract. We can't change horses mid-race. Let's just focus on the other Anakin stuff and let Ewan carry the next movie. Just do it."
"OK Boss, I'm on it."

But let's not forget expectations were MUCH higher for the prequels. The OT established the SW universe and all the main card characters. But by the time the ROTJ credits rolled, you had a whole generation of SW fanboys prodding, critiquing and wanting to know more. Stuff like RO and Mandalorian focus on the undercard guys and add more depth. But even if you only focus on champ shit, it's hard to build a complete soap opera plot in a 2-hour movie format - you almost have to supplement it with serials like CW, Rebels or Mandalorian.

Would you & @Aegon Spengler move this half ass conversation to the appropriate thread please.

Bunch of fooking haterz not liking Nat's scenes. @Draxton teh fook is this guy talking about?

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Is that surprise bucket-butt-secks?

 

[Loiosh]

ffs don't tell @Loiosh he still thinks he's on topic apparently, I'm about to yellow card his ass.

 

[D Train]

right... but they don't got that. the internet they do got is controlled by Sid & his propaganda... so 28 years after he took control, and he's been controlling the airways at the cost of death, do you think that anyone is really privy to the fact that the democrats rigged the election? The democrats own the tv stations, so you don't hear a peep about it here on earth. Imagine that 1,000x over with Sid being the one you answer to.

now one of the BIG points this jerk off in the video went on & on & embarrassingly on further about, was that somehow the slave girl Rey who lives on Jakku in a dirt closet should've not only know everything about the Jedi... but it's a fucking plot hole that she didn't believe they were space wizards until Han told her. he probably replayed that scene half a dozen times to make a point that is so fucking flawed I'm almost embarrassed for him to point it out.

What's your honest opinion? Do you think it's a plot hole that Rey... 51 years later... wasn't sure if the Jedi legends were true?

I would not say it’s a plot hole. I do find it odd that in such a technologically advanced society there wouldn’t be wide spread recordings of Jedi. Rey being on a backwater planet helps explain that in her case, maybe.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

 

[ChickenBrother]

Would you & @Aegon Spengler move this half ass conversation to the appropriate thread please.

Bunch of fooking haterz not liking Nat's scenes. @Draxton teh fook is this guy talking about?

Natalie Portman is great in pretty much everything other than the prequels. I don't understand it either. Maybe her midichlorian count isn't high enough or something.

 

[Mcountry]

How have you all managed to bitch about the best thing to have happened to star wars since empire strikes back?!

 

[KnightTemplar]

It's a small world; the Magistrate was played by Diana Lee Inosanto, daughter of the legendary martial arts master, Guru Dan Inosanto. My instructor was trained by Guru Dan, and I've trained with the man himself a couple of times

 

[KnightTemplar]

How have you all managed to bitch about the best thing to have happened to star wars since empire strikes back?!

This is the Sherdog Way

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I would not say it’s a plot hole. I do find it odd that in such a technologically advanced society there wouldn’t be wide spread recordings of Jedi. Rey being on a backwater planet helps explain that in her case, maybe.

Would you believe it though if there were? Lets take a look at a modern day magician. Your personal opinion... is Shin Lim a wizard doing sure enough jedi sorcery?



Note: Watch any of his video's. Watch David Copperfield make the statue of liberty disappear while you're at it.

Do you see where the minds of quadrillions of people across the universe are on this thing about these cops who supposedly have mystical powers?

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Natalie Portman is great in pretty much everything other than the prequels. I don't understand it either. Maybe her midichlorian count isn't high enough or something.

I don't see the issue. I watched the prequels many times over before being burdened by social media & their distastes... & her performances never even once took me out of the moment. Still doesn't

 

[Myrddin Wild]

How have you all managed to bitch about the best thing to have happened to star wars since empire strikes back?!

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Well, whatever your opinion on the old stuff.

Nothing but Bbbbblue skies... from now on.....

 

[GSP_37]

Natalie Portman is great in pretty much everything other than the prequels. I don't understand it either. Maybe her midichlorian count isn't high enough or something.

She looked good with the bare midriff.

 

[GSP_37]

I saw an article today that screenshotted something before it was edited out. It said The Magistrate was

Spoiler

a survivor of Dathomir and suggested maybe she's Maul's woman apprentice.

 

[ChickenBrother]

I don't see the issue. I watched the prequels many times over before being burdened by social media & their distastes... & her performances never even once took me out of the moment. Still doesn't

Natalie Portman is a fine actress and a beautiful woman and yes, she can act. Padme played by her is fine by the standards of a SW supporting character, but her role has a much higher bar than that. The issue that jumped out at me watching AOTC and ROTS for the first time in a theater (without ever following social media) was that her scenes with Anakin were dogshit.

Anakin is the Jesus / Mohammad / Bruce Lee / Elvis / John Wayne of the SW universe. They might as well call it "The Saga of Anakin Skywalker." And everyone who's anyone in the SW universe is connected to him in some way whether they raised him, groomed him, dueled him, were oppressed by him or otherwise feared/admired him.

Honest question: based on her prequel scenes with Anakin, did Natalie Portman's portrayal convince you she was someone for whom Anakin would throw away a GOAT Jedi career in progress that he had been raised in since childhood?

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Honest question: based on her prequel scenes with Anakin, did Natalie Portman's portrayal convince you she was someone for whom Anakin would throw away a GOAT Jedi career in progress that he had been raised in since childhood?

Yes, I'm not sure how clear I can be that I get it all, but this isn't all that made ani dark.

I don't see the problem with her specifically... but I do digress that I used to feel like I needed more screen time working this dynamic... before I realized it was all there.

Perhaps you're trying to be convinced due to some level of acting prowess that you require... but don't you at the very least just understand that the situation itself calls for the virgin who fell in love when he was 10 being infatuated with his mind's desire to extreme levels when he finally gets her? It's not that hard to own a virgin who becomes infatuated & has been infatuated for a decade before hooking up. No matter what she was, Ani was already hooked & had been jerking teh chain for a decade with her in his mind. This is an easy money shot bro.

Now the thing that people forget to add to these kinds of convoz is that the most talented Sith in all of history was fucking with his mind since he was 10. Those nightmares & everything were due to Sid as well as his entire development. Sid knew from the jump this was his boy & he's been fooiking with him the whole time. Ani didn't stand a chance in that environment. I feel that could be considered a weakness in the movies for not pushing that point home a bit more, but it's an obvious fact & so I assume they felt like that obvious fact didn't need more screen time so that's what we got.

That's more powerful than you're giving credit to because Ani was being manipulated for an entire decade, I feel like it's enough.

You have to understand that it isn't all just that though either. He's been questioning the jedi order. Why? Oh yeah, he's got the most talented Sith ever fooking with his head since he was 10. Sid's been swaying Ani against the Jedi his whole life in a long game that would stun your imagination. Look at the long game he did with the prequels. He was the leader of both fucking sides!!! Fook me the guyz a fooking genious... & he played Ani the same way since he was a kid in a long game that not only made him question the jedi order but pushed his infatuation with his childhood crush. This is Sith 101 shit here & Ani was being played from teh jump.

I'm sorry for the fan base who didn't get that spelled out for them, who can't put the pieces together, but it's really all there. I didn't see it at first, & I wished they would've explained it a bit more, but after a while, it all just clicked that Ani was fucked from the jump & it's all there.

 

[Batjester]

Natalie Portman is a fine actress and a beautiful woman and yes, she can act. Padme played by her is fine by the standards of a SW supporting character, but her role has a much higher bar than that. The issue that jumped out at me watching AOTC and ROTS for the first time in a theater (without ever following social media) was that her scenes with Anakin were dogshit.

Anakin is the Jesus / Mohammad / Bruce Lee / Elvis / John Wayne of the SW universe. They might as well call it "The Saga of Anakin Skywalker." And everyone who's anyone in the SW universe is connected to him in some way whether they raised him, groomed him, dueled him, were oppressed by him or otherwise feared/admired him.

Honest question: based on her prequel scenes with Anakin, did Natalie Portman's portrayal convince you she was someone for whom Anakin would throw away a GOAT Jedi career in progress that he had been raised in since childhood?

Maybe she gave great helmet.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I saw an article today that screenshotted something before it was edited out. It said The Magistrate was

Spoiler

a survivor of Dathomir and suggested maybe she's Maul's woman apprentice.

Magistrate was 95% a Night Sister. Not necessarily affiliated with Maul... but there's a lot of tidbits that point to the idea that she was a Night sister.

• Red outfit
• grey streaks in her died hair
• turtleneck
• most importantly teh moon tat

It's all a bit shady but I think it all adz up. What doesn't ad up is that we didn't see some fooking green magic when her staff was knocked from her hand... so maybe she'z not. (5% doubt maybe 10 since she didn't use it)

 

[D Train]

Would you believe it though if there were? Lets take a look at a modern day magician. Your personal opinion... is Shin Lim a wizard doing sure enough jedi sorcery?



Note: Watch any of his video's. Watch David Copperfield make the statue of liberty disappear while you're at it.

Do you see where the minds of quadrillions of people across the universe are on this thing about these cops who supposedly have mystical powers?

Yeah, I think I would have in the context of the Star Wars universe. The Jedi have been around thousands of years and there were other Force users as well, many groups, in fact. Force ability was rare, but it certainly wasn’t unheard of. Even untrained folks could use it to some degree (Broom Boy, young Anakin, etc.). And as someone pointed out earlier, their tales would have grown larger over time, not smaller.
It seems similar to the Mandalorians. That’s a relatively small group of people and folks have heard of them and their deeds (and even what they look like) across the universe.
You can correct me if I’m wrong here, but I think the Jedi had many roles and for those who were not chose as a padawan, they could even be sent to planets to help crops grow as to heal people. People knew about that.
Like I said, I don’t see this as a plot hole, it’s just a critique of what seems to be flaw in the story telling. On a scale of Han Solo to Jar Jar Binks it only bothers me a Wicket. It’s not a make it or break deal to me.