Analysis The Magical Jabs

Biscuit Oliva said:
Are there any videos of a trip-hammer jab? I don't know what it is.
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Considering that I did give a precise description of how it's done, I don't see how you could be completely in the dark about it. But I did replace the video, and you should have also probably considered just searching for Felix Trinidad on Youtube and seeing it that way.
 
Would you say margarito uses a power jab aswell??

was watching this fight and they look similar (cotto's and margaritto's jab) but margarito doesn't seem to lunge in with it like cotto, but it has some pepper behind it.

 
Yeah he does. One of my team mates Said El Harrak has been a sparring partner twice for Tony, and he said the most surprising thing was the strength of Tony's jab, that he can get his full body weight behind it. Good call.
 
On a side-note, here's a fantastic example of the pawing jab in action, and Teddy Atlas giving commentary on what it does:

 
Looks like a basic standard issue jab. Good consistency, but you don't move your feet when you punch. Hint: a smart guy isn't just gonna stand there and get hit.
 
Ya I know what you mean. I have it down to instict to step when I throw the jab but I'm in the process of subcociously stepping when I throw the cross or whatever.
 
Alright sorry if it seems like I'm whoring this thread, I just wanna post one more vid cause I really appreciate your advice.

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I'm working on a lot of different things and I still need some time for them to come together properly, but one is angles because it adresses the problem you brought up.
I feel like I'm getting down angling to the left a bit (like where you end with a left hook or right cross then step out to the left and slide your right foot around) but I need more work on the pivot to the right. I got the basic movement down but I need more options on combinations that lead into this pivot. Right now I'm most comfortable doing it with jab cross jab because I step into the last jab and it sets up the pivot nice. I asked one of my coaches yesterday and he suggested ending with the cross to set it up. That seems more difficult to me, and balance is still a little bit of an issue and he told me to make the pivot a smaller movement for that but perhaps its because I haven't practiced it as much? What do you think are good punches to set it up?
 
Even though I loved watching these, I still don't see a difference in the jabs except for the pwoer and speed behind them.
 
Then you're not actually watching.
 
SKizzit said:
Alright sorry if it seems like I'm whoring this thread, I just wanna post one more vid cause I really appreciate your advice.

shadowbox.flv video by RedDonkeyPoo - Photobucket

I'm working on a lot of different things and I still need some time for them to come together properly, but one is angles because it adresses the problem you brought up.
I feel like I'm getting down angling to the left a bit (like where you end with a left hook or right cross then step out to the left and slide your right foot around) but I need more work on the pivot to the right. I got the basic movement down but I need more options on combinations that lead into this pivot. Right now I'm most comfortable doing it with jab cross jab because I step into the last jab and it sets up the pivot nice. I asked one of my coaches yesterday and he suggested ending with the cross to set it up. That seems more difficult to me, and balance is still a little bit of an issue and he told me to make the pivot a smaller movement for that but perhaps its because I haven't practiced it as much? What do you think are good punches to set it up?
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I don't know. I don't really set up my pivots, but I can tell you one thing that made it easier for me. You're doing something I used to do, which is not sitting down on your punches. Your punches in this video are coming from your shoulder and not your hips, so there's not a lot of body weight behind them. In order to pivot, you have to make a concentrated effort to get your weight going in that direction. If you sit down more on your punches (bend your knees, put your ass into it, turn your hips), you'll have more power and your weight will already be moving by the time you want to pivot. It'll take practice to get down, of course, but that's the way to go. When all is said and done you should be able to pivot efficiently whether you're punching or not at all, and should be able to pivot off any punch, or into any punch.

Also, when I said moving your feet before, I meant walking with your punches. Ask one of your coaches what that is.

Last, find a way to turn your vids upright. lol
 
Yes it is, BTW, has anyone yet spotted that Cerrone uses the trip-hammer style of jab?

Vertical fist, falls straight from his cheekbone. He actually does a good job of putting his hip into for power also:

 
what the hell is shane mosely's jab?? i'd class it as a hybrid between a flick and pawing jab but i'm not sure.



You really notice it when he goes to double jab i.e at 0:31 - 0:33 of that vid
 
Yeah, it is a bit of both. Technically it is an up-jab, but he paws with it to lull you to sleep, then cracks you with either the left hook out of nowhere, or the right hand. Or the RIGHT hook. Shane's one of few shorter-armed people who throw that punch correctly.
 
I remember in that fight Steward was saying that Mosley usually "jingles" his jab out in front of you to find distance but in that fight he was using it a lot better or something.
 
I can't wait for the floyd mosely fight. Call me crazy i think it's a better match up than floyd pacquaio.
 
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