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Is Sherotica a thing?

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PolishHeadlock2 said:
@tonni got this and thought of you

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But why
 
JDragon said:
Thoughts re the Cyberpunk situation?
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Totally expected clusterfuck.

You can check out my posts in the original thread in the Arcade.

It was pretty clear to me that there were serious problems with the game based on how low quality their promotional material was so close to release.
 
Falsedawn said:
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I beat it yesterday. Good game. Played well on the 3090.
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Bugs and performance aside, seems a bit lacking don't you think?
It was being billed as GTA V in a cyberpunk setting with RPG elements and the weapons, vehicles, abilities to match.
Completely ignoring GTA's online mode, it still looks way, way short of that. Especially in terms of the NPCs, minigames etc.
 
Ruprecht said:
Bugs and performance aside, seems a bit lacking don't you think?
It was being billed as GTA V in a cyberpunk setting with RPG elements and the weapons, vehicles, abilities to match.
Completely ignoring GTA's online mode, it still looks way, way short of that. Especially in terms of the NPCs, minigames etc.
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I want to trust CDPR given the amount of stuff they released for Witcher 3 but I don't know what to expect now with them I think still working from home.
 
Gregolian said:
I want to trust CDPR given the amount of stuff they released for Witcher 3 but I don't know what to expect now with them I think still working from home.
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It's not as good or complete as Witcher 3 was at launch.

The only place it surpasses Witcher 3 is the graphics and the technology behind them. The main quest line is quite good but the rest is a copy pasted buggy mess for the most part.

It has a pretty sick soundtrack too and the radio stations are literally the only reason to ever drive a vehicle because the driving sucks.
 
Ruprecht said:
Bugs and performance aside, seems a bit lacking don't you think?
It was being billed as GTA V in a cyberpunk setting with RPG elements and the weapons, vehicles, abilities to match.
Completely ignoring GTA's online mode, it still looks way, way short of that. Especially in terms of the NPCs, minigames etc.
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CDPR said from literally the beginning that it's an RPG, not an action game. All the GTA comparisons were done by fans who hyped it up to high fucking heaven into something that could never meet their expectations.

I dumped 50 hours in it and had a blast. I'll replay it once they get a new game plus patched in as I'd hate to have to grind for cyberware again. I also went completely dark before the game dropped. I watched literally the origin videos and hopped in.

If you had no or tempered expectations, it probably blew you away. If you thought gaming was going to be singlehandedly dragged to 2077, you're either disappointed or incredibly frothy.
 
Rational Poster said:
It's not as good or complete as Witcher 3 was at launch.

The only place it surpasses Witcher 3 is the graphics and the technology behind them. The main quest line is quite good but the rest is a copy pasted buggy mess for the most part.

It has a pretty sick soundtrack too and the radio stations are literally the only reason to ever drive a vehicle because the driving sucks.
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You find the batmobile yet?
 
JDragon said:
@Falsedawn @The Diplomat @Rational Poster

Do you think the game can be saved a) from a gameplay perspective and b) commercially?
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I'm not sure there's anything to "save" from a gameplay perspective, it's not a bad game. And the performance issues are so basic. The Witcher 3 was a shitshow at launch, games with these gigantic scales aren't going to be bulletproof from the jump.

As far as commercially, they already sold gangbusters, it's a bit late to hit them in the wallet now. Once they get some patches and a free DLC in, the fanboys will be praising Geraldo as usual. It won't even hurt the image. Hell, Batman Arkham Knight was legit broken on PC and got delisted. Go tell people Arkham Knight is a bad game now, you'd be the minority opinion.
 
JDragon said:
@Falsedawn @The Diplomat @Rational Poster

Do you think the game can be saved a) from a gameplay perspective and b) commercially?
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I'm not sure. I think this game along with a lot of games that have an extremely long development cycle is that they often have a combination of feature creep and old design ideas in the final product.

Evidence of feature creep (and the cuts that result from not actually adding those features) is obvious all over Cyberpunk. The most glaring one is visible in the attributes menu. They clearly intended to have another attribute and set of perk trees based on the design layout, but instead it's just a blank button.

The open world exploration thing was all the rage for the past decade and because of that has been copied repeatedly and better than Cyberpunk has pulled it off since development started by basically anyone that makes video games. I think it can be fairly and correctly argued that even their previous releases did this better than Cyberpunk. You can even say Witcher 3 perfected it. It's a lot of older ideas and gameplay loops with a very nice finish and I don't think any amount of tweaking is going to change that.

Then there is Keanu. It seems certain to me that the design and even story of this game was going to be completely different before Keanu got involved. It also seems like they had to spend a lot of money, and then resources, to shoehorn him into this game. This also very likely hindered them from adding a lot of the creeping features and lead to a lot of cut features and ideas.

Still I thought his part in the game was way better than expected, but at the same time part of me thinks they might have been developing a better game before his involvement.

In time, I think they will eventually balance the game and improve performance, perhaps even re-release on console. But ultimately I think they promised too much, not just to gamers, but to themselves, bit off way more than the could chew and no matter how much is changed the game won't be better than Witcher 3 and certainly won't ever meet the high bar that was set.
 
JDragon said:
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first thought is lol @ people buying that for ps4 over pc
second thought is lol @ people buying this game day 1 instead of waiting for the GOTY edition packed full of DLC at half the price that will come out in year or two
 
JDragon said:
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A buggy ass game finally got called out enough for being released unfinished and sooo buggy the developers were forced to react

It's a damn good thing
 
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