The Leveraging power the PFA will have over the UFC will be INSANE!

[johnnyroastbeef]

The next couple of years are gonna be interesting. Can't wait to pay $100/ppv lol.

$60 $100 who cares, the fighters deserve 50% of revenue

 

[WinZip]

If the UFC tries to lockout their fighters well, someone like Conor can just go do a PPV with Bellator and make equal or even more money with them. This can effectly destroy the UFC.

You clearly have no idea how contracts work, do you? Did you know, for example, that they're legally binding and fighter signed with one promotion can't just go off and fight with another?

Good try, TS, but next time try to have some kind of idea as to what you're talking about.

The truth is, union busting is big business. Walmart has done it for years, same as McDonald's, etc. The UFC will simply stop giving fights to anyone who joins. As a private enterprise, they can't be forced to give fighters fights. If someone wants to organize against them, that person will effectively end their career.

 

[Tormund]

TS is reaching, probably doesn't understand how unions and contracts work.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

PFA ? (protection from abuse)

 

[Tormund]

$60 $100 who cares, the fighters deserve 50% of revenue

No they don't, they signed a contract. They didn't build the UFC, they're under no obligation to re-sign with the UFC when their contract expires. They're not high level athletes, MMA is a fallback sport.

 

[Sparkie]

If the UFC tries to lockout their fighters well, someone like Conor can just go do a PPV with Bellator and make equal or even more money with them. This can effectly destroy the UFC.l.

not if they are under contract

 

[OneGloveGracie]

You clearly have no idea how contracts work, do you? Did you know, for example, that they're legally binding and fighter signed with one promotion can't just go off and fight with another?

Good try, TS, but next time try to have some kind of idea as to what you're talking about.

The truth is, union busting is big business. Walmart has done it for years, same as McDonald's, etc. The UFC will simply stop giving fights to anyone who joins. As a private enterprise, they can't be forced to give fighters fights. If someone wants to organize against them, that person will effectively end their career.

LOL. do you not know how the law works. The contract is only legally binding if the UFC continues to put on events. If the UFC refuses to put on events for the fighters, then they have the right to go elsewhere.

Just like the "legally binding" contracts of the NHL and NBA, those players aren't allowed to play else where even in the off season. But during a lockout, those players are allowed to play for other leagues because they can't legally be prevented from earning a living.

 

[johnnyroastbeef]

They're not high level athletes, MMA is a fallback sport.

Not sure if serious. Getting punched in the face isn't for most people and i see plenty of mainstream athletes in the front row watching a real sport, fighting. Until you apologize or declare sarcasm then you are

 

[TMAN29]

It's called contracts though, they probably couldn't keep fighters on the sideline indefinitely but long enough that it'll be an effective deterrent.

Another bullshit thing the UFC can and does do currently. "Independent contractor" lol

 

[Sparkie]

LOL you don't know the laws so don't make up sh*t.

Fighters have a right to earn a living by law. If the UFC locks out, fighters contracts become null and void. They have the right to pursue their options to make a living.

source?

 

[TMAN29]

so, pro ufc union guys, would you be happy if the result is the roster gets cut in half? the # of cards cut in half? is that a win for you guys? being pro fighter and all.

Why would any of these matter to real fans? Its pointed out all the time that fans dont know most of the fighters and said roster. Also that this is why the prelom fighters didnt matter.

 

[kflo]

Why would any of these matter to real fans? Its pointed out all the time that fans dont know most of the fighters and said roster. Also that this is why the prelom fighters didnt matter.

i thought real fans cared about the fighters?

 

[TMAN29]

i thought real fans cared about the fighters?

Of course they dont. Havnt you seen the antifighter rhetoric on here?

 

[cheezum]

The PFA is completely toothless until big name fighters and several of them sign on.

correct. and i can't see dana's BFFs honda, lawler, cerrone etc getting on board.

 

[OrigFan255]

If a PFA gets formed, the leveraging power they will have over the UFC will be FAR GREATER than any other players association in any of the other major sports.

When owners and players in NHL, NBA, NFL and MLB come to a head, the owners start implementing pressure tactics ie: Lockouts. And the players really don't have an equal or greater option to go to outside of those leagues. They can't just organize their own league so they end up either sitting at home or take far lesser pay to play in overseas leagues.

If the UFC tries to lockout their fighters well, someone like Conor can just go do a PPV with Bellator and make equal or even more money with them. This can effectly destroy the UFC.

The next couple of years are gonna be interesting. Can't wait to pay $100/ppv lol.

There is absolutely no reason in the world that a complete team of individuals produce a product, that earns big money and, only the owners divide up the majority of the profits. There is no UFC without the fighters and they're part of the team.....The owners will STILL make a lot more than the fighters, and that is fine BUT, 3 people ain't gonna divide up 80% of the profits while 400 fighters can create an image for the remainng 20%

 

[Tormund]

Not sure if serious. Getting punched in the face isn't for most people and i see plenty of mainstream athletes in the front row watching a real sport, fighting. Until you apologize or declare sarcasm then you are

If there was money in MMA there would be better athletes in it. Stipe is a failed baseball player so he walked into MMA and became UFC champion, Aldo is a failed soccer player wannabe and he walked into MMA and became UFC champion and a GOAT candidate. Being able to take punches doesn't make you a good athlete.

 

[WinZip]

LOL. do you not know how the law works. The contract is only legally binding if the UFC continues to put on events. If the UFC refuses to put on events for the fighters, then they have the right to go elsewhere.

Just like the "legally binding" contracts of the NHL and NBA, those players aren't allowed to play else where even in the off season. But during a lockout, those players are allowed to play for other leagues because they can't legally be prevented from earning a living.

You really believe that every fighter would refuse a payday?

How about this: if that happens, I will agree to admit you were right. If it doesn't happen, though, will you admit you were wrong?

 

[Nate Dogg]

LOL you don't know the laws so don't make up sh*t.

Fighters have a right to earn a living by law. If the UFC locks out, fighters contracts become null and void. They have the right to pursue their options to make a living.

Contracts aren't nullified. The NBA for one went through lockouts and the players on existing contracts didn't get nulled. They just weren't paid.

 

[johnnyroastbeef]

If there was money in MMA there would be better athletes in it. Stipe is a failed baseball player so he walked into MMA and became UFC champion, Aldo is a failed soccer player wannabe and he walked into MMA and became UFC champion and a GOAT candidate. Being able to take punches doesn't make you a good athlete.

I agree with your first sentence but still fighting is different beast.
Stipe was golden gloves boxer which is good and HW is most unpredictable because of sheer size.
Everyone is a failed soccer player in brazil and Aldo has been training in a pro gym since he was a teenager and he is incredible athlete.
Being strong and athletic doesn't make you a good fighter.
conor bless

 

[Epicness]

I'm not sure what's worse - dirty crook unions / associations trying to line their pockets on the backs on a business that someone else built (typical democrat behavior) or dirty thieving streamers stealing from that company (typical millennial behavior).

douchenozzles like you are worse