The Jordan Peterson Thread - V2 -

[IDL]

In the interview she said she wasn't allowed to see the complaint or complaints (she doesn't know if it was one or multiple), or even told the content of it(them). I'd wager it's one.

She was just pulled in and chastized, then had a leash clipped onto her collar.

She was told that the issue was apparently her neutrality in showing the clip. She should have condemned Peterson according to her bosses.

So no room for critical thought or analysis. They want her to just preach social justice dogma. In a communications class.

I guess she violated ideological purity laws. Reminds me of religious police in Saudi Arabia.

The punishment sounds down right Orwellian.

Peterson addressed it here

 

[Bald1]

In the interview she said she wasn't allowed to see the complaint or complaints (she doesn't know if it was one or multiple), or even told the content of it(them). I'd wager it's one.

She was just pulled in and chastized, then had a leash clipped onto her collar.

She was told that the issue was apparently her neutrality in showing the clip. She should have condemned Peterson according to her bosses.

So no room for critical thought or analysis. They want her to just preach social justice dogma. In a communications class.

As we all know communication is best done by agreeing with everything someone else thinks without analysis. Just nod and smile, it'll help brighten the future.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

So this girl is in trouble for not commenting on a matter that is yet to be settled? Very tolerant and open minded.

This is my favourite part, and should highlight the lunacy of the leftists. -

"The excerpt from TVO’s current affairs program The Agenda shows Peterson, who has famously refused to use gender pronouns other than “he” or “she,...”

And that's why Peterson caught shit and is now labelled a Nazi and such. Not because he advocates anything, but because he refuses to allow others to tell him what he *must* say. Such an important, if basic, point that gets overlooked by his detractors.

The people who call the SJW freaks obscure and limited to a fringe group on campus are correct. It is so obscure that activists can shut down Peterson's speaking arrangements. It is so obscure that the academics can enlist the mainstream media to aggressively and relentlessly attack and smear Peterson and the people who listen to him. Much obscure. So Wow!

 

[Vitamin C]

The people who call the SJW freaks obscure and limited to a fringe group on campus are correct. It is so obscure that activists can shut down Peterson's speaking arrangements. It is so obscure that the academics can enlist the mainstream media to aggressively and relentlessly attack and smear Peterson and the people who listen to him. Much obscure. So Wow!

It's so obscure that department heads call in third party thought police diversity specialists on their own Master's students and TAs for showing a video clip of two Canadian university professors having a debate on public television.

 

[sangreporsangre]

Lmao at that Maclean's hit piece. It's not the first that they've put out and it sure as hell won't be the last. As crappy as it is - filled with strawmen and red herrings - at least it has something to do with Canada. Vast majority of Maclean's articles are about Trump, I'm talking like 80% of their content. The rest is usually about how racist and Islamophobic these terrible Canadians are.

The haters in the media establishment always point to Peterson's Patreon dough as some sort of evidence of him being evil. I think that the reason it really burns his ass is, up until now the way these people have operated is by threatening your livelihood. If you fall out of line and voice some kind of wrongthink, they'll put some pressure on to make you lose your job or business. Well they can't do that to him, it makes them angry and nervous, so they're flailing.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Lmao at that Maclean's hit piece. It's not the first that they've put out and it sure as hell won't be the last. As crappy as it is - filled with strawmen and red herrings - at least it has something to do with Canada. Vast majority of Maclean's articles are about Trump, I'm talking like 80% of their content. The rest is usually about how racist and Islamophobic these terrible Canadians are.

The haters in the media establishment always point to Peterson's Patreon dough as some sort of evidence of him being evil. I think that the reason it really burns his ass is, up until now the way these people have operated is by threatening your livelihood. If you fall out of line and voice some kind of wrongthink, they'll put some pressure on to make you lose your job or business. Well they can't do that to him, it makes them angry and nervous, so they're flailing.

I have also noticed the disgusting snobbery over Peterson's Patreon. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything he says or does, but those that criticize and attack him are convinced that makes him pure evil.

"Ugh, Peterson is making $50,000 from his Patreon. What a hateful asshole (sneer)."

Spoiler

 

[ocean size]

He accurately interpreted his "God is dead" theory but that's about it. After that mark, he misinterpreted him completely. And deliberately at that, because there's simply no way an intellectual of Peterson's stature would say stupid things like this:



Nietzsche was critical of dogmatic Christianity? Such a misleading statement. If one hadn't read Nietzsche, what one would get out of this assertion is that Nietzsche was against the corruption of the church, which is absolutely false. He despised Martin Luther and even praised Borgias at one point.

Talk about turning a blind eye. What he was critical about is Christianity's roots, the conditions and drive from which it was born. Still, such a thing coming from Peterson doesn't surprise me, being that he is intent on re-instituting Christianity as West's pillar.

Wow. You don't need to know much about Nietzsche for that video to give you pause about taking Peterson's word with less than a grain of salt.

 

[ocean size]

Lol. This is amateurish at best.

I suppose if a great thinker noted they were influenced by Sesame Street at some point we should give similar credence to its "grounding"? Laughable sophistry on display. What a dodge.

Again, philosophy does nothing. The Jordan Petersons of the world, the Jungs of the world and the like's contributions are gruesomely infinitesimal compared to actual scientists making the world a better place in the laboratory. One Newton has more value than 10 billion of these types. I speak for everyone when I say this.

You can't derive an ought from an is though. And our lives are mostly driven by oughts. Science can give what is but not what ought. For that we need the subjective and philosophy.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Excellent video of Dr. Peterson interviewing Jonathan Haidt.

 

[LuchaBear]

 

[Deleted member 457759]

This was truly cringe worthy. The trans guy on the left at one point looks at Peterson and asks him "don't you want to learn". It was the most disingenuous and condescending thing I've ever seen. Especially to a guy like Peterson who has dedicated his life to learning in an honest way, with his relentless pusuit of truth whether you agree with his conclusions or not. He probably has the IQ of both of those people combined.

And of course the CBC makes it a two on one lol.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

"Basically, there is no such thing as biological sex".

He actually said that.

 

[21 Savage]

with his relentless pusuit of truth

LMFAO

 

[Devout Pessimist]

The target audience would be people unfamiliar with him, so there is no basis to actually disagree with anything written in the article from that perspective, so the default I think would be for people to passively agree, or take that on board. So if someone then mentions his name they would associate it with accusations made that they had read prior.

I was reading the comment section and found out that the writer of the Peterson hit-piece, Tabatha Southey, was married to comedian Dave Foley. He claims she is a nutcase diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and physically abused him. I don't know how credible his accusations are considering he has problems of his own. They are probably both insane.


Joe Rogan knew her and talks about how bizarre Southey is:

 

[Deleted member 457759]

I was reading the comment section and found out that the writer of the Peterson hit-piece, Tabatha Southey, was married to comedian Dave Foley. He claims she is a nutcase to and physically abused him. I don't know how credible his accusations are considering he problems of his own. They are probably both insane.


Joe Rogan knew her and talks about how bizarre Southey is:

Nice find!

Yea she's definitely vindictive and malicious.

 

[Makani]

A TA at Wilfrid Laurier University, my old stomping grounds, got dragged in front of a tribunal for showing a Peterson debate that made one or more students "uncomfortable."

Stifling Free Speech is Making Laurier Unsafe

It's never been an intellectual hotbed, but it's a shame to see them buckling so easily. My coworker's wife is fairly high up in their bureaucracy and she said it's an ongoing issue. This new generation of teachers is expected to not stir the pot and just get these kids to their degree without any of that critical thinking stuff. It's a shame, when I graduated they had a lot of the old guard left, people with life experience and integrity.

*edit* Saw some mention might have been made of it earlier, but as a Laurier alum I felt a little personal connection to it.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

A TA at Wilfrid Laurier University, my old stomping grounds, got dragged in front of a tribunal for showing a Peterson debate that made one or more students "uncomfortable."

Stifling Free Speech is Making Laurier Unsafe

It's never been an intellectual hotbed, but it's a shame to see them buckling so easily. My coworkers wife is fairly high up in their bureaucracy and she said it's an ongoing issue. This new generation of teachers is expected to not stir the pot and just get these kids to their degree without any of that critical thinking stuff. It's a shame, when I graduated they had a lot of the old guard left, people with life experience and integrity.

According to Peterson, the TA got in trouble for not taking a side and allowing the students to discuss and debate the ideas presented in the video. The university expected her to side against Peterson and make it clear to the students that Peterson is literally Hitler and should not be taken seriously. In other words, the TA is being punished for expecting the students to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

 

[Makani]

According to Peterson, the TA got in trouble for not taking a side and allowing the students to discuss and debate the ideas presented in the video. The university expected her to side against Peterson and make it clear to the students that Peterson is literally Hitler and should not be taken seriously. In other words, the TA is being punished for expecting the students to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

Yeah, that was the vibe I got, which is a shame. I'm pretty liberal on most issues, but the gender pronouns thing still baffles me. It doesn't affect my day to day life in general, but I know I'm walking in a minefield in many conversations.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Yeah, that was the vibe I got, which is a shame. I'm pretty liberal on most issues, but the gender pronouns thing still baffles me. It doesn't affect my day to day life in general, but I know I'm walking in a minefield in many conversations.

The thought policing seems to be the most dangerous for employers and people working in education at all levels from Kindergarten to University. It is the most problematic in education because teachers reach the most people and, unfortunately, a teacher's job these days is to indoctrinate his or her students with the ideology of the times.

 

[TheGreatA]

Wow. You don't need to know much about Nietzsche for that video to give you pause about taking Peterson's word with less than a grain of salt.

I don't think he was saying anything out of line there, that wouldn't be reciprocated in atleast some of Nietzsche's works.

Nietzsche said a lot of things, some of which might seem contradictory to one another.

There's no way to interpret Nietzsche in a way that is pro-Christian. He did absolutely disagree with Christianity's principles. But he also begrudgingly respected those who stuck to their principles, instead of meekly following an ideology of someone else's.

I wouldn't be surprised if the end result of Peterson's "intellectual quest" is the abandonment of a Christian identity. I reckon he holds onto that because he believes there to be a lot of power in the metaphors, that are still relevant in today's climate, perhaps especially relevant. But he's starting to reach a cross-roads on where it's becoming increasingly difficult, for him as any kind of a modern intellectual, to separate the metaphors from the "real".

It would ultimately be much easier for him to defend his ideas from a secular platform, rather than relying on Christian metaphors.