The Jazz Thread

Shit, jazz is the fucking best. It took me a bit to get into, you owe it to yourself to give it a good try. Once it clicked I was absolutely hooked.





 
Jesus Christ. Take a history of music and African American history.

About as far from hipster as you can get
 
I agree. I do like some jazz. But often times the musicians are so into the musicianship of the song, and making sure they do some kind of cool polyrhythm and mode change, that they lose sight of the concept of writing a good song. You know, one that actually sounds good.

It’s masturbatory bullshit a lot of times.

That’s not jazz. That’s appropriating douchebags. True jazz is chaos and anarchy and world class musicians.
 
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You can’t refute that because you know exactly nothing about music. You stated one of the stupidest things I have ever read on sherdog.

“Jazz has no structure”

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The very tip of the iceberg, follow the link and educate yourself.

To begin your study of rhythm changes, you look at the form for this important jazz structure.


https://mattwarnockguitar.com/rhythm-changes/#form



Now for everyone’s sake, toss your computer out the window. You’re literally making the world a stupider place.

Lulz. I forgot I had this book sitting in my bookshelf for over 15 years:

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Time to break out the Joe Pass Emperor II and practice a few licks again...
 
Here's the definition from Oxford:
Jazz. Noun. A type of music of black American origin which emerged at the beginning of the 20th century, characterized by improvisation, syncopation, and usually a regular or forceful rhythm. Brass and woodwind instruments and piano are particularly associated with jazz, although guitar and occasionally violin are also used; styles include Dixieland, swing, bebop, and free jazz.

Jazz has a melodic freedom ranging from diatonicism through chromaticism to atonality. There's bebop, hard bop, smooth jazz, percussive, fusion, orchestral. Jazz-rock. Classical jazz. Jazz-pop. You name it jazz has it.

Let's post some jazz you enjoy. Be expansive!

 
Cinc, homes, I don’t know if you know this, but I am a highly accomplished musician (feel free to ask waigen, he asked me to send him a clip of my playing, in his words, I am “elite level”).


I am a multi-instrumentalist, and have studied classical and jazz at the highest levels. Jazz is every bit as sophisticated as classical music, and in fact FAR more harmonically and melodically complex than practically anything pre, late romantic era.


Honestly, the problem is you can’t “hear it”. It takes about a decade of work to actually reach the point where you understand what you’re hearing. To give you an idea, I was an accomplished classical player (performing Bach fugues for instance), had years of theory and ear training under my belt, and it still took me a solid 5 years of several hours a Day work (between 2-6) to truly be able to hear it.


Make no mistake, John Coltrane is every bit the musician as Mozart.


Same argument I hear from nascar fans
 
Jazz has been around a couple of years more, tha some idiotic hipsters.

I went to see Marcus Miller and Stanley Clarke a couple of weeks ago and I didn't see any hipsters either. This music is not "cool" enough for them.
 
Jazz does not have structure. Jazz musicians will say that the structure is formed by the interplay of the musicians. But it doesn't help the listener, if they don't understand what is taking place.

Classical music, as an alternative, is strict and structured to sound the same each time. It's a better listening experience for the listener.

Jazz does have structure. What do you think a lead sheet is?
 
My 3.5 yr old dances his little ass off when I put this on.

 
I like some jazz. I played piano, organ, guitar, and bass in a jazz band, and really just prefer more structured jazz: 'Round Midnight, Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square, Rhapsody in Blue, etc.
I also really like me some Debussy, Ravel, and Gershwin, which to me is sorta "proto-jazz" if you will.

I never cared much for the free-form, avant-garde, type stuff. Like the lounge stuff, where they seem to be playing a whole lotta nothing. Not my cup of tea.
 


Anything by ''The Maharaja of the Keyboard.''



Every so often, Cannonball's solo will pop into my head. I think his work is some of the best on this album, it's certainly the most underrated.
 
My son is mathematically inclined and very type A. He can’t stand jazz. I’ve always linked the two.
 
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