The Jake Paul Megathread v2

[KOPPE]

what abou Alex vs Jake i want to see that

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

He's getting those guys better paydays than they got in mma though.

That’s true, still a scummy way to make a name for yourself though IMO

He could also give guys paydays who aren’t way past their prime and multiple weight classes smaller than him… or guys who can actually Box

 

[Mike]

That’s true, still a scummy way to make a name for yourself though IMO

He could also give guys paydays who aren’t way past their prime and multiple weight classes smaller than him… or guys who can actually Box

It's a very safe and calculated move. But he helped some older guys finally get paid without taking like ten more brutal fights to

 

[Willek]

 

[Kryptt]

The only thing I will give the Pauls (outside of success - see next) is providing solid purses to those they scrap with.

I only know a little of the payouts or hearsay but good on them.

 

[italiamusica]

The only positive thing Jake is doing, is trying to get the fighters more money. Aside from that, he's your typical privileged rich kid who is beyond narcissistic and talks non stop shit.

 

[ReasonableMan]

Nate is 6ft and around 200lbs. Why do people act like Paul is 6’5 250lbs

Diaz is a fatty at 200 lbs, way out of shape. He's in shape under 180 lbs. Paul is in shape over 200 lbs.

Diaz performs well at 155 lbs. Paul would have to amputate a leg to make 155.

There is a big size difference.

 

[Adebisi]

Diaz is a fatty at 200 lbs, way out of shape. He's in shape under 180 lbs. Paul is in shape over 200 lbs.

Diaz performs well at 155 lbs. Paul would have to amputate a leg to make 155.

There is a big size difference.

Would there big legitimate testing, though?

 

[FIghtxIQ]

In the Octagon? That's a bit of a stretch. Let's not forget that Nate is a high level BJJ blackbelt, and Jake Paul (as far as I know) hasn't done any grappling other than some high school wrestling. I feel pretty confident that Nate would win an MMA fight.

Boxing on the other hand.... I probably would favor Paul at this point. But it certainly wouldn't be easy. Nate's nearly impossible to KO and has unlimited cardio so he'd keep coming at Jake and we really haven't seem him dragged into deep waters like that. Would actually be a reasonably interesting fight.

MMA Nate can win, but he's not an offensive grappler. He's more defensive and reactionary. He prefers to keep it standing and that would favor Jake Paul in boxing or mma. Boxers hit harder, Jake Paul would be able to KO Nate Diaz in boxing and mma if he lands clean. We are not talking about Masvidal or Edwards level punching power, it's different when you are talking about punching power from boxers. Yeah Jake Paul is still green in boxing, but his punching power is legit.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Nate is 6ft and around 200lbs. Why do people act like Paul is 6’5 250lbs

Because Nate isn't muscular, so that weight is mostly fat. Jake Paul has much more muscle mass compared to Nate.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

He only talks about MMA because he knows that won’t happen lol, Nate would destroy him in MMA

The fact this dude is still shamelessly calling out old, small MMA fighters to box is a complete embarrassment… anyone who associates with Jake or is a fan of Jake is a complete embarrassment

You don't need to be a fan to see it for what it is. This is the reason why Askren and Woodley all got knocked out. They underestimated Jake Paul just like the rest of the mma community does. The hate blinds people from seeing the actual skills.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Boxing, maybe Jake wins due to size and youth. However, let's not forget Nate was a sparring partner for Andre Ward, and Ward had high praise for his skills. MMA, Nate beats up the legs, pop shots him, makes him gas and the subs him.

His boxing level was better before, it's nowhere near that level anymore. His best boxing was around the Michael Johnson fight. He doesn't have a lot of volume anymore and doesn't really have combinations anymore. Still the same 1-2 or slap to the 2 (left cross) that's it nowadays.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

You don't need to be a fan to see it for what it is. This is the reason why Askren and Woodley all got knocked out. They underestimated Jake Paul just like the rest of the mma community does. The hate blinds people from seeing the actual skills.

I always thought Jake would KO Askren

People think of MMA fighters as superheroes... I've done BJJ with some pro fighters, they aren't all gods at BJJ lol... if you're in your twenties dedicating your life to BJJ and you handpick an old, smaller UFC fighter you could beat them

 

[FIghtxIQ]

I always thought Jake would KO Askren

People think of MMA fighters as superheroes... I've done BJJ with some pro fighters, they aren't all gods at BJJ lol... if you're in your twenties dedicating your life to BJJ and you handpick an old, smaller UFC fighter you could beat them

A lot of pure sport bjj can outgrapple many mma fighters in pure grappling. Happens all the time when they compete in submission competitions. The grappling ability and skill gap is very evident and mma fighters always need special rules in the submission competitions to try and level the playing field. Of course there are always outliers and mma fighters with high level grappling, but the majority doesn't have that. They just have a good enough mma grappling level. Like Izzy for example, in pure grappling he would get subbed by most competition blue belts, but he's the world champion because of his other skill sets.

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

yah probably. based on many obvious factors nate could still tap him but yeah i wouldnt bet on nate at this point in either sport and thats not really to give credit to jake he knows this and thats why he picked this fight. just like how he knows tommy is more of a c list celebrity than he is a boxer. just like how he replaces tommy with a former sparring partner he knows he can easily beat who may even throw for pay . its all for show.

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

A lot of pure sport bjj can outgrapple many mma fighters in pure grappling. Happens all the time when they compete in submission competitions. The grappling ability and skill gap is very evident and mma fighters always need special rules in the submission competitions to try and level the playing field. Of course there are always outliers and mma fighters with high level grappling, but the majority doesn't have that. They just have a good enough mma grappling level. Like Izzy for example, in pure grappling he would get subbed by most competition blue belts, but he's the world champion because of his other skill sets.

brendan shaub. if you are athletic enough and understand enough you dictate when engagement happens , you can beat high level guys as its been proven a few times. its why izzy hasn't been subbed yet and can hang on the mats with some well known competition teams in training . he might not be nailing crazy subs and sweeps on pure bjjs guys but his fight iq, athleticism , understanding of when and when not to engage is high level and its why he continues to be a success. hes good at the defense aspect and situational awareness on the ground . i can see him getting a lot of wins on points in bjj or sub wrestling. if he went for a sub and tried to play the game he gets subbed but thats not how izzy fights . so i think he deserves a little bit more credit than that.

 

[Genisys]

Yes in the Octagon. Nate will just box him and he'll lose that battle pretty easily. Anyone with half a brain can see that

MMA rules are different than boxing. Nate would clinch and dirty box him. A boxer is used to getting separated when they clinch up and would not be accustomed to prolong clinch work. I think Jake's cardio would fail him after two rounds and Nate would pick him apart in the third and probably end in a club and sub.

 

[John12]

 

[Pechan]

What style? This dude doesn't even fight.

 

[Elvis.]

Dillon Danis is an idiot