The "Is CNN Biased" post, Poll edition..

Do you consider CNN to be a biased news network


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I'm pretty sure you have said in the past that you don't watch CNN?

Doesn't matter if I watch it not because an individual is going to measure the news's bias against his own so the way to answer a question like this is with studies (logic can also help). But I was watching it for election coverage, debates, etc. Hadn't watched before that.
 
hi again HereticBD,

That's true, but it doesn't speak to any bias in favor of Trump. Bias in favor of covering him because of the ratings he brings in, perhaps.

not perhaps. this is big, big business - with endless piles of money at stake. CNN wanted to eat into Foxnews' share of the viewership (which sits on the mountaintop of mainstream media), and it succeeded by going "full Trump".

from a purely business point of view, a smart move too. it worked...but campaign rallies are basically extended versions of ad buys (which are tremendously expensive when you're talking about prime time on a major network).

CNN's coverage of these rallies was nothing but positive for Mr. Trump - but the idea that these rallies constitutes "news" is something that i'd find very debatable.

But not bias in favoring him over his opponents in the election. They also covered "Pussy-gate" more than Wikileaks by a ridiculous margin too. Was that to help Trump as well?

CNN spent a healthy amount of time on Mrs. Clinton's emails too, along with months of Benghazi investigation coverage (an investigation that essentially exonerated Mrs. Clinton from everything other than the State dept not allocating enough security resources for ambassador Stevens).

i didn't find CNN's coverage of Trump's pussy grabbing statements out of the norm, either. i imagine that Mr. Zucker's network would have had similar coverage of Mrs. Clinton if she said something to the effect of, "I just grab'm by the cock" in a surreptitiously gotten recording.

i gotta go, i have thxgiving stuff to do. have a great holiday!

- IGIT
 
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Obviously I'm taken very seriously. TS even started a thread just because he was losing an argument in another one. Heretic stalks me. Another guy (can't remember the name) has something from me in his sig. Etc. I don't really know why, but it seems to be really important to insecure right-wingers that people agree with them that the media is biased, but the evidence for that assertion is not there, and the logic behind it is equally non-existent (like, even putting aside that media studies don't back it up, *why* would anyone think that the media would be biased against the right? No one can answer that).
 
Obviously I'm taken very seriously. TS even started a thread just because he was losing an argument in another one. Heretic stalks me. Another guy (can't remember the name) has something from me in his sig. Etc. I don't really know why, but it seems to be really important to insecure right-wingers that people agree with them that the media is biased, but the evidence for that assertion is not there, and the logic behind it is equally non-existent (like, even putting aside that media studies don't back it up, *why* would anyone think that the media would be biased against the right? No one can answer that).

Why would the media be bias? Maybe because the people at the top of those corporations want to see Hillary win?

Jack.. Nobody needs to see a fucking study to know than CNN is bias, its obvious every time you turn on the station and they are bashing Trump 24/7, blowing up stories from non issues while largely ignoring Hillarys problems or defending her.

Were you hiding under a rock all election?
 
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What's shocking is that my Dr feels that the MSM was biased against Clinton and that they were too hard on Hillary......I almost could not believe my ears. In fairness, I guess Trump would have committed political suicide 100 times over if he was a politician but he wasn't. The people are done with polished, rehearsed politicians that aren't trustworthy. Trump may not be trustworthy either but at least appealed to be real and was saying things that people wanted to hear.
 
of F'ing course its biased. id argue that its better than fox or msnbc, though. if you have to watch any one of those shitty networks, cnn will make you less stupid. still stupid...but less stupid.
 
of F'ing course its biased. id argue that its better than fox or msnbc, though. if you have to watch any one of those shitty networks, cnn will make you less stupid. still stupid...but less stupid.

Thats debatable but I totally agree that all the outlets you mentioned show bias. Jacks position was either cnn showed no bias or was actually biased for Trump.
 
I don't vote in this kind of retarded thread. The truth is the truth regardless of what right-wing cheerleaders say. I'd be more impressed with a single citation to a study or well-argued point then a bunch of second-sight types clicking an option.

Discriminatory against people with impaired vision. I always knew you were a bigot.
 
151 to 7, dang, has a poll on here ever been this one sided.
 
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hi Benjamin Burton once more,

actually, that's not true.

as i said earlier, the president of the network himself admitted that CNN probably gave far too much coverage to Mr. Trump's rallies.

his rallies.

you're argument isn't with me. it's with the president of CNN, Jeff Zucker.

i don't know if its been mentioned, but that's the same Jeff Zucker who helped propel Mr. Trump into superstardom when he launched the Apprentice when he was at NBC.

- IGIT

So you are saying that CNN's 24/7 shit talking about Trump propelled him to win? I agree with that. Although don't pretend that CNN gave Trump even 1 minute of positive coverage.

All I saw from CNN for the last year and a half was a bully trying to derail an american citizens presidential campaign and it made me even more of a Trump supporter.
 
Biased??? They are literally the media branch of a political party and make little effort to hide it

Biased doesn't really apply here
 
Guess I can see the merit of arguing "there's no such thing as bad publicity", yet where do you draw the line? Constantly demonizing someone isn't the same as being biased in favor of them.
 
I don't vote in this kind of retarded thread. The truth is the truth regardless of what right-wing cheerleaders say. I'd be more impressed with a single citation to a study or well-argued point then a bunch of second-sight types clicking an option.

It's not just CNN.

The Media Elite: America's New Powerbrokers
is a book written by S. Robert Lichter, Stanley Rothman, and Linda Lichter, published in 1986. It details a social scientifc study of the ideological commitments of elite journalists in the United States, and the consequences of those commitments on both the reporting itself and on its reception by the public.The book states that because of the political opinions of journalists, the elite media has a liberal media bias. The conservative Media Research Centre contends that The Media Elite is "the most widely quoted media study of the 1980s and remains a landmark today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Media_Elite

"Concerning political beliefs: 54 percent of the journalists described their views as left of center, 29 percent as "middle of the road," and only 17 percent as right of center."


Then we have " A 2005 study by political scientists Tim Groseclose of UCLA and Jeff Milyo of the University of Missouri at Columbia attempted to quantify bias among news outlets using statistical models, and found a liberal bias.The authors wrote that "all of the news outlets we examined, except Fox News' Special Report and the Washington Times, received scores to the left of the average member of Congress."

and this

A 2008 joint study by the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University and the Project for Excellence in Journalism found that viewers believe a liberal media bias can be found in television news on networks such as CNN.These findings concerning a perception of liberal bias in television news – particularly at CNN – were also reported by other sources.


Kuypers, J, of Dartmouth wrote the 2002 book Press Bias and Politics.

"Examining over 800 press reports on race and homosexuality from 116 different newspapers, Kuypers meticulously documents a liberal political bias in mainstream news. This book asserts that such a bias hurts the democratic process by ignoring non-mainstream left positions and vilifying many moderate and most right-leaning positions, leaving only a narrow brand of liberal thought supported by the mainstream press."

He concludes that only "a narrow brand of liberal thought" was supported by the press, with "all other positions shut out or shut down".

https://books.google.com.au/books/about/Press_Bias_and_Politics.html?id=GHIQimmDvbcC&redir_esc=y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_A._Kuypers
 
So you are saying that CNN's 24/7 shit talking about Trump propelled him to win? I agree with that. Although don't pretend that CNN gave Trump even 1 minute of positive coverage.

All I saw from CNN for the last year and a half was a bully trying to derail an american citizens presidential campaign and it made me even more of a Trump supporter.

hi DynamicLoosener,

when a major network saturates their airwaves with coverage of Mr. Trump rallies, that my friend is positive coverage. most campaigns would give their right arm for that kind of exposure - the campaign rallies were basically extended advertisements for candidate Trump, bolstered by the imprimatur of CNN.

an orgy of network sanctioned propaganda, lol.

as i've said earlier, even the president of CNN, Jeff Zucker, admitted that his network went overboard with the coverage of Mr. Trump's rallies.

- IGIT
 
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hi DynamicLoosener,

when a major network saturates their airwaves with coverage of Mr. Trump rallies, that my friend is positive coverage. most campaigns would give their right arm for that kind of exposure - the campaign rallies were basically extended advertisements for candidate Trump, bolstered by the imprimatur of CNN.

an orgy of network sanctioned propaganda, lol.

as i've said earlier, even the president of CNN, Jeff Zucker, admitted that his network went overboard with the coverage of Mr. Trump's rallies.

- IGIT

So your saying CNNs intent was to get Trump more voters by saturating there news with negative stories about him, or that was an unintended result ?

Sincerely, stop with the formal letter schtick it's unsettling.
 
So your saying CNNs intent was to get Trump more voters by saturating there news with negative stories about him, or that was an unintended result ?

hi CrazyN8,

no, that's not what i'm saying, lol, nor is what i've said.

nice to meet you, though, and well met!

- IGIT
 
hi CrazyN8,

no, that's not what i'm saying, lol, nor is what i've said.

nice to meet you, though, and well met!

- IGIT

Hello IGIT,

Than what are you saying?

Sincerely,

Unsettled CrazyN8
 
First, this is the best response on the side of the "liberal media" CT yet so thanks.

It's not just CNN.

The Media Elite: America's New Powerbrokers
is a book written by S. Robert Lichter, Stanley Rothman, and Linda Lichter, published in 1986. It details a social scientifc study of the ideological commitments of elite journalists in the United States, and the consequences of those commitments on both the reporting itself and on its reception by the public.The book states that because of the political opinions of journalists, the elite media has a liberal media bias. The conservative Media Research Centre contends that The Media Elite is "the most widely quoted media study of the 1980s and remains a landmark today.

In 1986, both major parties had a liberal wing so the media could be liberal then without favoring a party. See, the media has a major *centrist* bias, for the obvious reason that their product is intended for mass consumption. And the other issue here is that the views of journalists themselves don't matter as much as the views of management, which tend to be far more conservative.

A 2008 joint study by the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University and the Project for Excellence in Journalism found that viewers believe a liberal media bias can be found in television news on networks such as CNN.
These findings concerning a perception of liberal bias in television news – particularly at CNN – were also reported by other sources.

Sure. If the question is, "do a lot of people believe the mainstream media is biased against them?" the answer is obviously yes. I note that you took your post from Wiki, in the section on liberal media bias. But you skipped a telling part here:

"A 2014 Gallup poll found that a plurality of Americans believe the media is biased to favor liberal politics. According to the poll, 44% of Americans feel that news media are "too liberal" (70% of self-identified conservatives, 35% of self-identified moderates, and 15% of self-identified liberals), while 19% believe them to be "too conservative" (12% of self-identified conservatives, 18% of self-identified moderates, and 33% of self-identified liberals), and 34% "just about right" (49% of self-identified liberals, 44% of self-identified moderates, and 16% of self-identified conservatives)."

So almost half of Americans (and a plurality considering undecideds) think that the media is biased toward liberals, with a strong majority of conservatives believing that and 15% of liberals believing it. This is consistent with what I've been saying--people naturally think that the media is biased against their own views, and conservative thought leaders (Limbaugh, National Review, etc.--kind of feels weird to call them that, but they are) promote the view more heavily, particularly as the right has diverged further from reality in its views lately (climate change, debt, inflation, general CT tendency, etc.). Take a look at what some of the participants in this thread believe. It's a lot of provably false stuff, but since the media ignores it, they think the media are biased.
 
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Guys you aren't getting what JVS is saying, until CNN is found guilty in a court of law of being biased it is all unfounded. So move on ..........lol
 

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