The greatest nation on earth

[Haoledude]

I like this revisionist history about WW2 going on all over the place. It seems like people taking either side of the argument are greatly undervaluing the other.

I mean, you guys do remember that while Russia might have gotten to Berlin first (and lets ignore the fact that they didn't have to cross an OCEAN to get there), they did so against a Germany fending off the largest invasion in history from the other front. That invasion was set in motion by a country simultaneously fighting a war against another world power in an entirely different ocean.

I'm not trying to undersell Russia, obviously they played an equal, maybe greater role in defeating Germany. But I see a lot of European posters try to shit on the American role in WW2, and that does kind of get under my skin. Especially since western Europe pretty much sided with big brother America during the cold war for protection from the Soviet Union. And lets face it, if we weren't their flexing on your behalf Europe probably would have been taken over by the Soviet Union.

Damn you are an idiot. My grandfather fought the Japanese and was in Europe around D-Day time, and a great uncle I met fought the Germans. They both said the Soviets beat the Germans, while we did contribute, we were busy handling the Japanese.

The war was already going south for Germany by D-Day. After Stalingrad there was no way the Germans would win the war. They didn't have the manpower or resources.

 

[HIMBOB]

Because America saved the world in WWII.

Without us we'd all be speaking German and at least half the planet would just be blue-eyed, blonde-haired assholes.

As payment, the rest of the world has to kiss our asses for at least another century.

Without the English we would all be speaking German.
Without the Russian we would all be speaking German.

Hell looking further back without the English, America would be Spanish.


In term of heavy lifting not just finishing with the glory work America didn't do as much as England or Russia.
Not that an American textbook would agree with that.

 

[cluegoo**]

Whatever man, i am not going to get into it with you anymore because it's obvious you are sick of America. Btw, you know America pretty much made it possible for Europe and the Soviet Union to pay for the war, right?

The usa didn't ship all that stuff over for free you know. You made a lot of money from the war. Also have you ever considered that by coming in late the other nations had punched themselves out somewhat and offered no threat to the american mainland? Nearly everyone else has to take the punches to the head but the usa doesn't because of their location, huge, huge advantage not having new york or washington getting blitzed while all the other main players get attacked.

 

[bcordova]

Translation: I don't really know anything.

You cut me deep, you cut me real deep this time..........

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

From what I have read the scientists that defected from Germany convinced the US leadership Germany was close, when in reality it never really got anywhere with it, so the US would start its own program.

German scientists discovered nuclear fission in 1938, but the Germans never took the idea of a fission bomb seriously. Whereas in the US this discovery was taken way more seriously with Einstein sending a letter to the President and immediately every US physicist started working on a fission bomb.

The Nazis were taking some of their physicists and drafting them into the army as regular soldiers instead of letting them develop a fission weapon.

 

[Son of Jamin]

Ich wei

 

[Sentient]

The debt, the unemployment, the gun violence, the teen pregnancy and abortion, the historic lack of a medical safety net...I could never call it the greatest nation on earth.

This. I have traveled a fair part of the world, including the US (7 visits). One only has to look at the reception you get at LAX airport to see that the USA is not that great (not any more) and most certainly not 'free'. There are a lot of great things about America, but the one thing the US seems to be most proud of - freedom - is an absolute farce. The USA is not a free country, not by any stretch of the imagination. It is subdued by a culture of fear that continually erodes freedom. And most of you seem to be just fine with that, all the while celebrating your freedom. It'd be funny if it wasn;t so fucked up.

Add to this, there is an incredible amount of uneducated Americans, which also speaks volumes about the school system. Really, y'all got a lot of dummies there.

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Oh, and obesity is just epidemic in the USA as well. I guess y'all just use to it, but to outsiders, the USA has an incredible amount of fatties. Perhaps that stems back to the education program.

Sadly, the country I come from isn't a whole lot better as we follow in the footsteps of our US brothers far too closely for my liking. I wouldn't ever make the claim that my country (or any other for that matter) is the best in the world - I'd have to visit every country in the world before even trying to make a judgement on it. Seems to me that most Americans who make this claim haven't traveled outside of the USA or neighboring countries (Canada and Mexico). And because the US education system sucks so much, y'all barely know anything about the outside world either, making it a pretty ridiculous claim to make.

That all said, I do believe that the USA could be the best country in the world if it really wanted to be, and it would be easy enough to convince me that once upon a time at least, it was actually true.

 

[Damien Karras]

Because America saved the world in WWII.

Without us we'd all be speaking German and at least half the planet would just be blue-eyed, blonde-haired assholes.

As payment, the rest of the world has to kiss our asses for at least another century.

Forgetting the Soviets there buddy?

Forgetting the Brits?

That's why Americans need to learn history outside of the US public school system.

 

[Damien Karras]

This. I have traveled a fair part of the world, including the US (7 visits). One only has to look at the reception you get at LAX airport to see that the USA is not that great (not any more) and most certainly not 'free'. There are a lot of great things about America, but the one thing the US seems to be most proud of - freedom - is an absolute farce. The USA is not a free country, not by any stretch of the imagination. It is subdued by a culture of fear that continually erodes freedom. And most of you seem to be just fine with that, all the while celebrating your freedom. It'd be funny if it wasn;t so fucked up.

Add to this, there is an incredible amount of uneducated Americans, which also speaks volumes about the school system. Really, y'all got a lot of dummies there.

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Oh, and obesity is just epidemic in the USA as well. I guess y'all just use to it, but to outsiders, the USA has an incredible amount of fatties. Perhaps that stems back to the education program.

Sadly, the country I come from isn't a whole lot better as we follow in the footsteps of our US brothers far too closely for my liking. I wouldn't ever make the claim that my country (or any other for that matter) is the best in the world - I'd have to visit every country in the world before even trying to make a judgement on it. Seems to me that most Americans who make this claim haven't traveled outside of the USA or neighboring countries (Canada and Mexico). And because the US education system sucks so much, y'all barely know anything about the outside world either, making it a pretty ridiculous claim to make.

That all said, I do believe that the USA could be the best country in the world if it really wanted to be, and it would be easy enough to convince me that once upon a time at least, it was actually true.

I hate videos like the one you posted. It's only evidence that those particular people are dumb. It's carefully edited.

I agree with what you said about perceived freedom.

As for the obesity issue, I remember reading an article about how the obesity rate in the US is actually going down while it is going up in France. But there are still a lot of really fat people in the US. Then again, I've seen so many fat people in Britain as well. Canada has its share of obese people as well.

The one thing I can't get over when I cross the border is the amount of paranoia and fear. Everyone's gotta carry a gun because of it and if it isn't your neighbor trying to take your stuff away from you, it's the government.

For my buck, the EU is where I would like to stay. Well, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, Belgium, Great Britain or the Netherlands.

 

[5H3RD0G]

Remember the greatest don't have to advertise, only youthful nations seeking attention do. Let the people be the judge. Nowadays it is not the greatest on Earth. Education, economy, etc. Time to catch up. :icon_arro

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

I hate videos like the one you posted. It's only evidence that those particular people are dumb. It's carefully edited.

I agree with what you said about perceived freedom.

As for the obesity issue, I remember reading an article about how the obesity rate in the US is actually going down while it is going up in France. But there are still a lot of really fat people in the US. Then again, I've seen so many fat people in Britain as well. Canada has its share of obese people as well.

The one thing I can't get over when I cross the border is the amount of paranoia and fear. Everyone's gotta carry a gun because of it and if it isn't your neighbor trying to take your stuff away from you, it's the government.

For my buck, the EU is where I would like to stay. Well, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, Belgium, Great Britain or the Netherlands.

Spot on.

 

[Damien Karras]

I've been to Thunder Bay, Canada and Tijuana, Mexico, as well as almost every state in the US.

So don't tell me I haven't traveled the world. And I've come to this conclusion...

The US is the greatest nation on Earth!!!

why in God's name would you go to Thunder Bay?

 

[leto1776]

itt: butthurt non Americans

 

[jackietreehorn8]

why in God's name would you go to Thunder Bay?

We could drink at age 18 there vs. 21 in the US...when you're 19 with time to kill in northern MN, sometimes you just point the wagons north and see what life brings.

 

[Damien Karras]

We could drink at age 18 there vs. 21 in the US...when you're 19 with time to kill in northern MN, sometimes you just point the wagons north and see what life brings.

jesus, you can't base your entire opinion of Canada on a drunken weekend in Thunder fucking Bay!

 

[therealdope]

jesus, you can't base your entire opinion of Canada on a drunken weekend in Thunder fucking Bay!

ummmm - you pretty much can. The bulk of Canada is hoser-ish once you get out of the 10 most populous cities. Lucky he didn't go to Cornwall, that would truly be embarrassing.

 

[BelieveInChael]

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It is pretty funny, but you could do that to any country if you edited it correctly.

And this is coming from an America hater.

 

[Kruppe]

So who is the greatest? I'd like to see other answers as well as the criteria used.

Bhutan. They have superb dragon statues.

 

[Y2Khaos]

One day a homeless man approached me on the street and started a conversation and started telling jokes. Some of them were actually pretty funny. The last joke he said was, "whats the greatest nation on earth?" I knew it was a joke so I said what. He said "DO-nation, man you think I could get a couple bucks for something to eat?" Doesn't really have anything to do with this thread but the title reminded me.

 

[Fury]

Bhutan. They have superb dragon statues.

This is solid logic that I can get behind.

ALL HAIL BHUTAN!!!!!

Land of Dragon statues and dark nippled women!!!