Locked THE FLASH TV Series Discussion Thread 1.0

[Snubnoze707]

Arrow could beat plastique ...use arrow laced with poison or sedative or just kill her...captain cold...same as plastique...multiplex same as plastique and captain cold.

He could defeat the mist the same way as I stated with the others...as long as he didn't fight him head on; he could sneak up and use a poison..sedative or shock arrow..or just a normal arrow to kill him.

He just couldn't beat him head to head...but fighting smart..yeah

Ya but he's on some no kill pussy shit right now...

 

[justblaze717]

Arrow could beat plastique ...use arrow laced with poison or sedative or just kill her...captain cold...same as plastique...multiplex same as plastique and captain cold.

He could defeat the mist the same way as I stated with the others...as long as he didn't fight him head on; he could sneak up and use a poison..sedative or shock arrow..or just a normal arrow to kill him.
He just couldn't beat him head to head...but fighting smart..yeah

At this stage I think merlyn or deathstroke would defeat Barry.just outsmarts him and kill him..head to head no. Sneak attacks..poison ...arrows..knives..etc.

Not saying flash couldn't beat them...but they could beat the flash..the only guy the flash hasn't beat is a non metahuman who out smarted him.

Girder would be a problem for olliver...but there are ways around him too...reverse flash and zoom are problems for him due to power level and being psychos

Barry being a nice guy who doesn't want to ko or hurt people is at a disadvantage.

I'm towards the end of season 1 of Arrow, does Deathstroke play a big role in the following seasons? Hes my favorite character.

 

[raty tat tat]

Descent episode liked the clock king hope to see of him the main villian was o.k.
wish they would killing his villians, Barry finally sees Dr.Wells dark side, IMO
it was the second best episode after the Capt. Cold one.

BTW between this show and the 90's Flash how does stack up to earlier
version? I know it's still to early to compare the two so I'am curious
to your opinion. I really only saw the pilot episode which liked better
then the new one.

 

[Snubnoze707]

I really doubt anyone has seen that 1990 Flash series.

 

[Thai Otoshi]

I'm towards the end of season 1 of Arrow, does Deathstroke play a big role in the following seasons? Hes my favorite character.

Holy shit yes.

Manu killed the role. Absolutely killed it.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

I really doubt anyone has seen that 1990 Flash series.

I did. My memory of that series isn't that vivid anymore but I remember my favorite episodes were those involving Mark Hamill's The Trickster.

BTW between this show and the 90's Flash how does stack up to earlier version? I know it's still to early to compare the two so I'am curious to your opinion. I really only saw the pilot episode which liked better
then the new one.

The new Flash series is way, way better than the 1990 series. For a show about super speed, the 1990 series was a bit dragging at times and laughable at the pedestrian ways Barry would be neutralized. Suffice to say, I ate the show up. The Danny Elfman-like score was a plus.

 

[Threetrees]

Harrison Wells being Metron is the best idea I've heard thus far

 

[senri]

Harrison Wells being Metron is the best idea I've heard thus far

i dont think it works, metron is too busy seeing everything in the universe to be meddling around on earth just for the flash. He doesn't invent or create anything, he just watches or shows things. You think a guy that can show you how to acquire the anti-life equation is going to only focus or care about the flash? Please.

 

[Francis Rossi]

I'm towards the end of season 1 of Arrow, does Deathstroke play a big role in the following seasons? Hes my favorite character.

He's upgraded to main cast for season two.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Isnt that always the theme with superpowered guys facing non powered guys...the powered guy always gets sloppy because of the physical advantages they have; as a result giving their opp chances to have success against them.

Its not just consistent with characters its consistent with real life...how many times have u seen a far superior fighter be defeated or pushed by a lesser opponent because that guy was prepared and the other wasn't..or a Guy showboating in a combat sport and getting beat or showboating in a football or basketball game and get beat. Deion Sanders got run down by a punter when he slowed up a little to show boat...mugsy vogues blocked Patrick Ewing...top college teams have been upset all based on will prep effort.

So when non powered heroes win or can stalemate guys its hardly outside of the stretch of reality...

As far as how he him losing to metastasis most of these guys have been professional killers or crazy or tough guys...Barry doesn't even know how to fight. Emotions or self doubt can impact his ability to react properly.

To be honest I think they have presented his powers and abilities fairly well..in context with him being a guy who was never a fighter..not a tactician or strategist and wants to help/not fight people.

Not to mention aguy who is vulnerable to everything regular people are...even with his power level he is very vulnerable..

I get what you are saying but still doesn't excuse how Flash can get tagged most of the times. When Flash moves, everything slows down for him that it's like time has stopped (similar to how they portrayed Quicksilver in X-Men: Days of Future Past).

Just take a look at the latest episode where Barry strips a mugger in one second and brings in a cop in the following second. That's how fast he is. No one can tag him if he doesn't want to. It's just inconsistent. I totally understand the show's dilemma and have accepted from the start that they're going to show Barry being neutralized in ways that would have been easily avoided. But to the show's credit, they just hide it much better and make it more believable.

Overall, I'm really enjoying the show and those are just my observations.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Manu killed the role. Absolutely killed it.

Manu as Deathstroke was only pretty decent for me. Plus he wore out his welcome in the last few episodes of season 2.

 

[Threetrees]

i dont think it works, metron is too busy seeing everything in the universe to be meddling around on earth just for the flash. He doesn't invent or create anything, he just watches or shows things. You think a guy that can show you how to acquire the anti-life equation is going to only focus or care about the flash? Please.

Yeah
When I say "best" I mean it as it's my favorite idea not the most likely.

 

[devante]

I get what you are saying but still doesn't excuse how Flash can get tagged most of the times. When Flash moves, everything slows down for him that it's like time has stopped (similar to how they portrayed Quicksilver in X-Men: Days of Future Past).

Just take a look at the latest episode where Barry strips a mugger in one second and brings in a cop in the following second. That's how fast he is. No one can tag him if he doesn't want to. It's just inconsistent. I totally understand the show's dilemma and have accepted from the start that they're going to show Barry being neutralized in ways that would have been easily avoided. But to the show's credit, they just hide it much better and make it more believable.

Overall, I'm really enjoying the show and those are just my observations.

I agree...I just think they do a good job setting up how he gets tagged, the way captain cold beat him by exhausting him saving the people from the train was creative.

Him getting decked by girder made sense in that when he broke his hand he essentially wasn't focusing on getting away or dodging. He was in pain...and got decked..knocked over the Humvee.

Even in the arrow v flash trailer, the two times flash got tagged made perfect rational sense in regards to how it was set up and how it was executed. Flash has super speed..not senses...most guys can't handle him head on...if you fight dirty or set traps; he is very much beatable, dude heals quick...he isnt invulnerable or durable, regular guys can knock him out..bullets..knives..arrows can all hurt or kill him.

So your point stands..but I don't think it takes away from mine; I was really hoping the show would explore different ways of attacking him outside of the villains just facing him head on...

Like having villains realize what this dude can do and setting up traps to balance these things out... That is something I would lime to see them do more..it would make the show much more interesting..and realistic when he is placed in danger.

 

[senri]

I agree...I just think they do a good job setting up how he gets tagged, the way captain cold beat him by exhausting him saving the people from the train was creative.

Him getting decked by girder made sense in that when he broke his hand he essentially wasn't focusing on getting away or dodging. He was in pain...and got decked..knocked over the Humvee.

Even in the arrow v flash trailer, the two times flash got tagged made perfect rational sense in regards to how it was set up and how it was executed. Flash has super speed..not senses...most guys can't handle him head on...if you fight dirty or set traps; he is very much beatable, dude heals quick...he isnt invulnerable or durable, regular guys can knock him out..bullets..knives..arrows can all hurt or kill him.

So your point stands..but I don't think it takes away from mine; I was really hoping the show would explore different ways of attacking him outside of the villains just facing him head on...

Like having villains realize what this dude can do and setting up traps to balance these things out... That is something I would lime to see them do more..it would make the show much more interesting..and realistic when he is placed in danger.

They will nerf him, but if the first season does well they will bank on the new budget to take things further and beyond. By the third or fourth he will be dealing with mainly Reverse flashes and Grodd as those are the only ones that can best him, The other street thugs will have to come together and form the rogue to be a threat.

Really at the end of the day things are only going to be interesting for flash and revere flash, as both coexist together, one cannot kill the other without killing themselves. So the tactics and strategy will be employed with trickery, time travel etc.

 

[devante]

They will nerf him, but if the first season does well they will bank on the new budget to take things further and beyond. By the third or fourth he will be dealing with mainly Reverse flashes and Grodd as those are the only ones that can best him, The other street thugs will have to come together and form the rogue to be a threat.

Really at the end of the day things are only going to be interesting for flash and revere flash, as both coexist together, one cannot kill the other without killing themselves. So the tactics and strategy will be employed with trickery, time travel etc.

Grodd is coming this year..I expect to see zoom & professor zoom...
Flashes rogues always came off as a bit odd to me...like their power level..weaponry didn't seem to match the guy they were facing..imo.

I am assuming they will do things similar to arrow...I.e. bring in other villains from various other superheroes lore...

I honestly think they are going the jsa route with arrow and flash developing the

 

[devante]

With flash arrow essentially being the Superman/arrow of their universe...and use villains from their rogues...

 

[Snubnoze707]

I get what you are saying but still doesn't excuse how Flash can get tagged most of the times. When Flash moves, everything slows down for him that it's like time has stopped (similar to how they portrayed Quicksilver in X-Men: Days of Future Past).

Just take a look at the latest episode where Barry strips a mugger in one second and brings in a cop in the following second. That's how fast he is. No one can tag him if he doesn't want to. It's just inconsistent. I totally understand the show's dilemma and have accepted from the start that they're going to show Barry being neutralized in ways that would have been easily avoided. But to the show's credit, they just hide it much better and make it more believable.

Overall, I'm really enjoying the show and those are just my observations.

Ya that shit bugged me to where he was easily dodging bolts as they slowly crept in, then randomly gets tagged by one. And why slip a shot when you can zoom right behind the attacker?

 

[senri]

Grodd is coming this year..I expect to see zoom & professor zoom...
Flashes rogues always came off as a bit odd to me...like their power level..weaponry didn't seem to match the guy they were facing..imo.

I am assuming they will do things similar to arrow...I.e. bring in other villains from various other superheroes lore...

I honestly think they are going the jsa route with arrow and flash developing the

they will have to nerf everyone as teh budget isn't enough to convey the powers of the flash and reverse flash and Grodd together. They will do it, but it won't be how i would imagine it, you need a big budget to portray what they are capable of, but i think it's still reasonable as everything is still in it's infancy and they can get super saiyan later on in the seasons like i'm thinking season 5 or 6 if it ever goes that far.

 

[Kanster]

Even a green Flash would kick the shit out of Olie.

 

[Calibur]

Liked this episode. Isn't it crazy that evil Dr Wells is the most human character in the show. His breakdown on why he didn't like people was so believable and reflects what most of my friends feel even though they don't like talking about it.

Speaking of Dr Wells, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the names of the dead he recited.

I was able to catch Elongated man, Fire and Elongated Man in there. I'm sure I'm missing at least another.