Locked THE FLASH TV Series Discussion Thread 1.0

[LilMountain]

That I can agree with setting up scenes to require less suspension of disbelief. But I think people that watch comic book shows or movies have to realize that some logic will be thrown out the window, and that some things WILL require suspension of disbelief, whether it be due to creating more drama, action, etc.

But it seems like I mostly see these complaints towards DC properties. Noone questioned why Thor didn't completely just vaporize or destroy Iron Man in their pissing match, or why Black Widow was able to instantly operate alien weaponry, or why Hulk can suddenly control his powers with no explanation.

And they already tried making a comic book movie that was realistic and more logical. It was called Man of Steel, and a lot of people shitted on that movie for having a lot of destruction when 2 powerful aliens threw down.

Well I can say personally it just never stood out to me as badly as some of these fights scenes do, which is all I ask :icon_lol:

 

[surgeyou1]

Of course they have to nerf him. The Flash is basically a god in the comics. You can't have a one second battle. Only thing that there is just some inconsistencies to what he can and can't do on the show. Those guys shouldn't have posed any problem to him and neither should have Arrow. But they have to make it somewhat interesting.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Enjoyed the "Revenge of the Rogues" episode but it was filled with a lot of trivial moments.

The fight was okay but my mind was constantly facepalming how easily Flash could have neutralized Cold and Heat Wave. Easily. And to stress out how inconsistent the show portray his powers, they had Flash run out on Joe, run all the way to his apartment, pack his clothes, and come back to Joe all in two seconds.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

in Identity Crisis Deathstroke also beat Wally West by detonating bombs when Flash was running towards him which caused flash to run around the explosions and deathstroke held the sword backwards and flash ran into it.

That Deathstroke win is such bullshit.

In Marvel, one of the things I'm so annoyed with is the Wolverine surviving a nuclear blast.

In DC, it's such bullshit that Deathstroke managed to stab Flash. Even with enhanced reflexes and speed, Deathstroke cannot touch Flash. When Flash moves, everything and everybody freezes from his point of view. So what if Slade anticipated Flash will go to his back, Flash can easily avoid that sword if used logic instead of trying to make Deathstroke cool.

Ok, try to imagine Flash when he's running at super speed.

Imagine the world, not slowing down, but completely freezes when Flash runs.

Now imagine Slade pointing that silly sword to the back.

Even with Slade's enhanced speed, it would still look like a slow-motion by 1/20th speed in Flash's eyes.

Coc[kiness has nothing to do with it. Overlook? If that's the case, then Wally would have multiple injuries every time he runs and bumps into something since he's such a klutz and can't avoid them at super speed. Personality has nothing to do with it, I'm talking about how Flash's powers works and how it's impossible for Slade to do what he did.

Besides the Flash baloney scene, I have no major problems with the way Slade handled the rest of the Justice League in that issue...



...Ok, maybe just a teeny tiny one with Green Lantern.

Great job, Kyle! Instead of using your default long range offensive moves on an opponent. You switch to fistacuffs for this one special occasion. Bravo.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Ya that fight scene was kind of rough. He's so fast that he could have positioned them directly at each other when firing, and even switched their guns if he felt like it. He could have just said fuck it and instantly cuffed the two of them and moved them to the back of a cop car.

 

[Francis Rossi]

That I can agree with setting up scenes to require less suspension of disbelief. But I think people that watch comic book shows or movies have to realize that some logic will be thrown out the window, and that some things WILL require suspension of disbelief, whether it be due to creating more drama, action, etc.

But it seems like I mostly see these complaints towards DC properties. Noone questioned why Thor didn't completely just vaporize or destroy Iron Man in their pissing match, or why Black Widow was able to instantly operate alien weaponry, or why Hulk can suddenly control his powers with no explanation.

And they already tried making a comic book movie that was realistic and more logical. It was called Man of Steel, and a lot of people shitted on that movie for having a lot of destruction when 2 powerful aliens threw down.

Man, I would HATE living in Metropolis. Insurance premiums would be extortionate, if you could even get covered. City's repeatedly having to rebuild huge areas after Supes takes on the latest villain of mass destruction.

 

[devante]

Of course they have to nerf him. The Flash is basically a god in the comics. You can't have a one second battle. Only thing that there is just some inconsistencies to what he can and can't do on the show. Those guys shouldn't have posed any problem to him and neither should have Arrow. But they have to make it somewhat interesting.

tbh if the flash really used his powers he could eliminate deaths, injuries and crimes 90% of the time all over the world; so in some sense he is the worst hero ever, cus he only uses his power to save his city...and not to do it all the time or most of the time.

unlike other heroes w/limits, lack of powers...or powers that don't allow them to be all over the world..much less the city..flash doesn't have those limits..

he just chooses to ONLY do so much

 

[devante]

Except robbers know there's a super fast guy and can plan for it with traps or some sort. Ice the floor so he has to slow down or knock himself out skidding into walls. I could live with that as a reason he doesnt just one punch them, same as I was fine with the fight with the electricity guy and the multiple man, but sometimes the writers just get too lazy

exactly..u have to have a plan in place for him prior to fighting him, something the levels the playing field..cold freezing the ground was pretty clever; i think as the show goes forward they will play that up, have guys have backup plans..traps or setups to even things out.

cold causing the train derailment and then sucker punching flash was also pretty clever too...


maybe at some point they play up how colds tech emanates a field that actually slows the flash down when he gets close to cold

 

[Lovestorm]

That showdown was shitter than balls, and i never knew that Dominic Purcell was such a terrible actor.

I like that they're delving into the F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M thing, though.

 

[Razuu]

Flash fighting the Arrow was one thing, but this fight it was very hard to suspend disbelief as it just seemed like the fight was so pointless. Reverse Flash makes the show a lot more interesting though

 

[meshuggah]

I'm assuming everyone reading this is up to date on things?

hope so!

Cool recent things...

1. The introduction another rogue, Golden Glider, Captain Cold's sister. She uses ice skates in the comics, it'll be interesting to see how they play that up
2. Even more rogues coming in with Pied Piper! Character is pitched as Wells' old protege.
3. Wells uses his super speed in the sneak peek of the next ep! 15seconds in in the vid below - slow mo......its him!

 

[meshuggah]

also - reverse flash concept art!

 

[CO68]

Cuz drama. Wouldn't be much of a show if he went out and one-punched everyone. Yes, it's more realistic, but each show would run about ten minutes. Including credits and an obligatory ad break.

It was just dumb that they couldn't have thought up a better scenario to have Thawne have a heroic moment saving Flash.

They should have had Captain Cold's gun be able to freeze the air to slow down Flash, or something. Or maybe have the Reverse-Flash attack him beforehand so that he's injured and can't fight nearly to the best of his abilities. Something other than just that Flash is in derp mode. 'Cross streams' so we can throw in a Ghostbusters reference. The only thing I got from the episode was that Flash has a badass suit that is highly resistant to absolute zero and absolute hot.

 

[Basil**]

That showdown was shitter than balls, and i never knew that Dominic Purcell was such a terrible actor.

I like that they're delving into the F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M thing, though.

Yeah, Purcell kind of stank I thought.

 

[MaveDeltzer]

Ok ep, good parts were Sisqo with a Ghostbusters style ice gun early leading to the Ghostbuster connection later on. Moving forward with Firestorm. The look of Flash vs Cold & Heat. Barry back at home. Rogue's prison break...hehe.

Not so good stuff: Cap Cold not aiming at the feet of the shielded guards, this isn't a random henchmen he is supposedly smart. Barry & Rogue's gameplan for the battle. Cold freezing the street they were on, making it hard for Barry to get footing or the asphalt getting heated up so he would get stuck would have worked. Nothing to stop Barry from an early finish. Cap Cold & Sisqo really need to up the ice puns.

 

[Lovestorm]

Spoiler

My ninja Wells just used red electric superspeed

 

[Garnett Silk]

Spoiler

My ninja Wells just used red electric superspeed

I caught that too!!!!

 

[Lovestorm]

Couldn't care less about Daniel Radcliffe-looking soundwave homos...

Spoiler

I wonder what's up with Wells' superspeed? Almost like it's artificially granted, and he needs ways to keep it topped up.

 

[Frank23]

Decent episode.

 

[TanMan]

Prolly my favorite episode so far besides Flash vs arrow, also favorite villain