The DNC and RNC believe in nothing, change my mind

[Dark One]

They only believe in advancing their own individual careers

 

[VivaRevolution]

Change it yourself, lazy

Brah, I just want to redistribute ideas fairly.

 

[Ripskater]

But they are all liars, because they are corrupt. Unless your values are in being for sale to the highest bidder, then none of them represent your values.

Whether I am right or wrong, I believed Ron Paul wasn't corrupt. I supported him. I believe Bernie Sanders isn't corrupt. I support him.

My values are in not being a whore.

Viva, it's a fallen world. I hear you. You just vote your conscience. But the perfect candidate does not exist.

 

[lilelvis]

Marxists are against the free market, and want Marxist regulations to control the pure motivations of the free market.

Obviously Trump is a Marxist. At least when it comes to the tech companies. Fuck I mean Trump just threatened anti-trust on Google.

What you are describing is fascism. A Marxist wants the government to own business, Fascist' wants to control business through regulation, without blame when it fails. Our government has been somewhat fascist for quite some time now.

 

[xcvbn]

But they are all liars, because they are corrupt. Unless your values are in being for sale to the highest bidder, then none of them represent your values.

Whether I am right or wrong, I believed Ron Paul wasn't corrupt. I supported him. I believe Bernie Sanders isn't corrupt. I support him.

My values are in not being a whore.

The Ron Paul revolution certainly paved the way for the Bernie Sanders revolution.

Let's just make sure the Democratic party doesn't hijack the Sanders movement like the Republicans hijacked Paul's Tea Party Movement.

 

[VivaRevolution]

What you are describing is fascism. A Marxist wants the government to own business, Fascist' wants to control business through regulation, without blame when it fails. Our government has been somewhat fascist for quite some time now.

I think the truth is that there is a war between who controls who, the government or the corporations, and we are all just puppets to be lied to by both sides.

The truth is that the American people lose no matter who wins. No sane person should support government control of corporations, or corporate control of our government.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

It was hard not to notice how the Republicans have done nothing to advance important pro-2nd Amendment legislation even though they have Congress and the Presidency. They certainly aren't principled in that regard.

 

[Bamboozled]

Marxists are against the free market, and want Marxist regulations to control the pure motivations of the free market.

Obviously Trump is a Marxist. At least when it comes to the tech companies. Fuck I mean Trump just threatened anti-trust on Google.

I'm confused as fuck, what evidence do you have he's anti tech companies?

 

[luckyshot]

 

[luckyshot]

But seriously, the DNC hasnt been actively trying to fuck unions up the ass for the last 35 years. So there’s that.

 

[VivaRevolution]

It was hard not to notice how the Republicans have done nothing to advance important pro-2nd Amendment legislation even though they have Congress and the Presidency. They certainly aren't principled in that regard.

I don't think you are anti-abortion, but hell if I was, and a republican, I would be fucking melting down right now. They have full control, and have done jack shit. Seems like they are accomplices to baby murder.

 

[kpt018]

I think the truth is that there is a war between who controls who, the government or the corporations, and we are all just puppets to be lied to by both sides.

The truth is that the American people lose no matter who wins. No sane person should support government control of corporations, or corporate control of our government.

This is the type of ignorance that gets us presidents like Trump. You’re asking us to convince you but you’re not even paying the slightest attention to the differences between the parties.

Shit man, just look at one fairly recent example. Democrats passed the ACA which got millions insurance that didn’t have it before which has most definitely saved lives. There are a bunch of other examples too, but you have to wake up to see them.

It was hard not to notice how the Republicans have done nothing to advance important pro-2nd Amendment legislation even though they have Congress and the Presidency. They certainly aren't principled in that regard.

I think it’s clear that republicans in power are not actually principled at all. The fact that they’ve done nothing about tariffs shows they’re full of shit.

And yeah, if your issue is guns they haven’t done shit.

 

[xcvbn]

It was hard not to notice how the Republicans have done nothing to advance important pro-2nd Amendment legislation even though they have Congress and the Presidency. They certainly aren't principled in that regard.

It's all by design.

Relegate certain issues as major campaign issues while passing or rejecting the important ones while no one is paying attention.

 

[VivaRevolution]

This is the type of ignorance that gets us presidents like Trump. You’re asking us to convince you but you’re not even paying the slightest attention to the differences between the parties.

Shit man, just look at one fairly recent example. Democrats passed the ACA which got millions insurance that didn’t have it before which has most definitely saved lives. There are a bunch of other examples too, but you have to wake up to see them.



I think it’s clear that republicans in power are not actually principled at all. The fact that they’ve done nothing about tariffs shows they’re full of shit.

And yeah, if your issue is guns they haven’t done shit.

I don't care that we got to trump.

Give me the possibility of a positive outcome, or enjoy the anarchy. I don't have kids, and I'm almost 40. It's been a good run.

 

[xcvbn]

But seriously, the DNC hasnt trying to fuck unions up the ass for the last 35 years. So there’s that.

But the thing is they've been in power, at some capacity, for about as much as Republicans in that time span and here we are on the verge of labor rights being at their worst in a century.

At what point can we blame a party for their inaction towards a cause as we blame the other for their action?

 

[all caps]

Viva you are the best thread starter in the war room, no homo

 

[bad seed]

It's tough to argue with that, cause there's a lot of truth there.

I look at worldview of the two parties. Democrats being anti-religious freedom, bigger govt, anti free speech, anti-Christian and pro-Islam, pro-LGBTQ agenda, 64 genders, open borders, socialism, social justice, cultural marxism, entitlement mentality...... I can't go along with any of that.

and dont forget free meals for kids.

goddamn commies giving away meals from MUH TAXES.

 

[VivaRevolution]

But the thing is they've been in power, at some capacity, for about as much as Republicans in that time span and here we are on the verge of labor rights being at their worst in a century.

At what point can we blame a party for their inaction towards a cause as we blame the other for their action?

Exactly. Fucking corporatists, and their risk adversion.

Same reason Republicans won't fight on abortion. They were worried about the backlash. How did that work out again for Dems and Obama?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I don't think you are anti-abortion, but hell if I was, and a republican, I would be fucking melting down right now. They have full control, and have done jack shit. Seems like they are accomplices to baby murder.

I'm pro-choice. One major difference though is that abortion has been pretty much settled by SCOTUS so attacking those rights would be un-Constitutional. Whereas with the firearms bills they chose not to pass they'd be supporting civil liberties.

And yeah, if your issue is guns they haven’t done shit.

It's all I want the assholes to do and they shelved some sensible legislation that was all lined up and ready to go.

 

[luckyshot]

But the thing is they've been in power, at some capacity, for about as much as Republicans in that time span and here we are on the verge of labor rights being at their worst in a century.

At what point can we blame a party for their inaction towards a cause as we blame the other for their action?

I didn’t say they were great, I just said they weren’t Neil Gorsuch.