The consequences of Conor/Dustin 3

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It is believed that Conor Mcgregor and Dustin Poirier will have their trilogy match after going 1-1 against each other.

First fight:
Winner: Conor Mcgregor
Method: 1st round TKO/KO
Weight class: Featherweight
Date: Sept 27, 2014
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Second fight:
Winner: Dustin Poirier
Method: 2nd round TKO/KO
Weight class: Lightweight
Date: Jan 23, 2021
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Both fights were very competitive on the feet, even for how short both fights were.
We now know that these two are very capable of finishing each other on the feet. Now being both LW fighters in a division waiting to matchup 2 top contenders for the possibility of a vacant belt, the 3rd fight will cause many issues for the rest of the LW division depending on the result.

The clear major downside is this fight doesn't make sense:
- Conor#6 vs Dustin#1 would work if both were coming of wins, only 1 of them are.
- A trilogy fight, the 1st being 6 years ago at a different weightclass , the 2nd for a number 1 contender spot and the 3rd for a number 1 contender spot. Immediate rematch for the man who lost a number 1 contender fight? Doesn't make much sense
- Holds up a stacked division on 2 guys fighting each other again, based on a very definitive win for Dustin.

Depending on the winner there'll be positive and negative consequences:

Dustin wins:
- A proper number 1 contender beating two top 5 fighters and having a 3 fight win streak.
- Fighting for the belt afterwards.
- Dustin will have leverage over the UFC for beating the golden boy twice, favoring him during the future negotiations.
- If Dustin were to decide to skip out on the belt and chase other money fights like he's shown interest to, including the 3rd Mcgregor bout, it could clog up the division even longer than expected. The main fight he's shown interest in is the Nate Diaz fight, since he has talked about it on numerous occasions. This fight would be probably set at 170 due to Nate not willing to fight at 155 anymore.
- While Conor is an entertaining figure and brings the most money to the promotion, losing this bout will result in him longer being talked about in fighting for titles. The only fight he'd have left in his tank would be his Nate trilogy to perhaps end his career on. The end of the Mcgregor Era.

Conor wins:
- A very odd number 1 contender with a record of 3 wins and 2 losses in his last 5. Mcgregor last 5 alternating win/loses: W: Alvarez, L: Khabib, W: Cowboy, L: Dustin, W: Dustin.
- Conor even with this win, hasn't been on a win streak since 2016.
- Fighting for the belt, knowing the UFC have shown to give Conor a lot of support. Title shot would almost be no question if he beats Dustin, especially in spectacular fashion. Question is against who?? If Conor choses to fight another fighter for the belt besides Oliveira or the winner of Gaethje/Chandler the UFC would grant him that. Mcgregor has shown interest in fighting lower ranked or unranked fighters, such as Nate Diaz, Al Iaquinta and Tony Ferguson on a 2 fight skid.
- Boxing instead of continuing to fight in MMA. Conor would have beat the most definitive number 1 contender and put the division in limbo to go fight in boxing for the rest of 2021 and 2022.
- Pushing Conor/Khabib 2 again, putting the division in limbo for months.
- Retirement, Conor has shown that he could probably step away from the sport any moment he wanted to. He might do it going out on top against an elite fighter.
- Dustin would be in very poor position for a future title fight, being 2-1 against the man who held up two divisions. This could keep him at the bottom of the top 5 and being able to gain leverage for a title fight would look difficult.

Conclusion:
These bullet points can be taken negative or positive depending on your perspective. The main reason this fight is being made is money, these are prize fighters after all.
Let me know your perspective on the matter and depending on either fighter winning, the impact it will have on the LW division.
 
This is such a god damned stupid rematch to make. And fuck Poirer for letting it happen. McGregor has had as close to zero success at LW as one can get and yet we’ve got to tolerate him stalling entire divisions for years at a time because daddy Dana needs that sweet sweet casual money. Poirer could very easily keep this division on track, focused on merit based fights among actual contenders in one of the best divisions in MMA, all he has to do is tell Conor to fuck off and go fight Do Bronx for the title. In actual sports athletes compete for money AND merit.

instead this shit is going to keep being an unwatchable embarrassment
 
Dustin sleeps Cocainor again. Gaethje sleeps Chandler. Then we get Dustin vs Justin for the title.
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Riffing here on a not well thought out, stream of consciousness thought....

We all know $ fights trump merit. It offends most of us, but we get why it happens. We think we are 'hardcore fans', a fairly small subset of paying customers.

But is there any real consequence? We still watch the fight. We continue to watch after. We may announce a hard core fan boycott, but we all know it aint gonna happen.

In fact, can we name one time a big money fight didn't pay off for Dana? The only consequence I can think of is when Mousasi left because title shots were not being granted by merit. And even though I'm a big Mousasi fan, even I have to acknowledge that in the grand scheme of things that's a very minor consequence.

Now, about this one particular money fight:
  • If Conor wins, there are lots of options, and even if Conor quits again, millions regained interested in the UFC again.
  • If Poirier wins, there's a (virtual) champ.
Win/win for Dana. Again.
 
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Even though I hate this rematch, I would be lying if I told you guys that i'm not gonna be on the couch watching this fight when it happens!
 
This is such a god damned stupid rematch to make. And fuck Poirer for letting it happen. McGregor has had as close to zero success at LW as one can get and yet we’ve got to tolerate him stalling entire divisions for years at a time because daddy Dana needs that sweet sweet casual money. Poirer could very easily keep this division on track, focused on merit based fights among actual contenders in one of the best divisions in MMA, all he has to do is tell Conor to fuck off and go fight Do Bronx for the title. In actual sports athletes compete for money AND merit.

instead this shit is going to keep being an unwatchable embarrassment

How is Dustin in the wrong for taking a Money fight? You and every other Sherdogger parroting this dumb narrative is just baffling. You all keep saying he should fight for the Belt? WHAT BELT!?!? Dana is HELLBENT on keeping the title on Khabib and insisting on having 1 - 9 Fight it out, there's NOTHING Dustin can do, he can't campaign to fight for a Championship that's not vacant.
 
This is such a god damned stupid rematch to make. And fuck Poirer for letting it happen. McGregor has had as close to zero success at LW as one can get and yet we’ve got to tolerate him stalling entire divisions for years at a time because daddy Dana needs that sweet sweet casual money. Poirer could very easily keep this division on track, focused on merit based fights among actual contenders in one of the best divisions in MMA, all he has to do is tell Conor to fuck off and go fight Do Bronx for the title. In actual sports athletes compete for money AND merit.

instead this shit is going to keep being an unwatchable embarrassment

Poirier is literally taking the biggest money match in the world so he can put a significant portion towards a fucking CHARITY (which conor has already and will likely again). shut the fuck up and enjoy the fight you ungrateful FOOL
 
It is believed that Conor Mcgregor and Dustin Poirier will have their trilogy match after going 1-1 against each other.

First fight:
Winner: Conor Mcgregor
Method: 1st round TKO/KO
Weight class: Featherweight
Date: Sept 27, 2014
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juQIjmX.gif


Second fight:
Winner: Dustin Poirier
Method: 2nd round TKO/KO
Weight class: Lightweight
Date: Jan 23, 2021
1298057165.0.jpg

BrightOptimalAnole-size_restricted.gif


Both fights were very competitive on the feet, even for how short both fights were.
We now know that these two are very capable of finishing each other on the feet. Now being both LW fighters in a division waiting to matchup 2 top contenders for the possibility of a vacant belt, the 3rd fight will cause many issues for the rest of the LW division depending on the result.

The clear major downside is this fight doesn't make sense:
- Conor#6 vs Dustin#1 would work if both were coming of wins, only 1 of them are.
- A trilogy fight, the 1st being 6 years ago at a different weightclass , the 2nd for a number 1 contender spot and the 3rd for a number 1 contender spot. Immediate rematch for the man who lost a number 1 contender fight? Doesn't make much sense
- Holds up a stacked division on 2 guys fighting each other again, based on a very definitive win for Dustin.

Depending on the winner there'll be positive and negative consequences:

Dustin wins:
- A proper number 1 contender beating two top 5 fighters and having a 3 fight win streak.
- Fighting for the belt afterwards.
- Dustin will have leverage over the UFC for beating the golden boy twice, favoring him during the future negotiations.
- If Dustin were to decide to skip out on the belt and chase other money fights like he's shown interest to, including the 3rd Mcgregor bout, it could clog up the division even longer than expected. The main fight he's shown interest in is the Nate Diaz fight, since he has talked about it on numerous occasions. This fight would be probably set at 170 due to Nate not willing to fight at 155 anymore.
- While Conor is an entertaining figure and brings the most money to the promotion, losing this bout will result in him longer being talked about in fighting for titles. The only fight he'd have left in his tank would be his Nate trilogy to perhaps end his career on. The end of the Mcgregor Era.

Conor wins:
- A very odd number 1 contender with a record of 3 wins and 2 losses in his last 5. Mcgregor last 5 alternating win/loses: W: Alvarez, L: Khabib, W: Cowboy, L: Dustin, W: Dustin.
- Conor even with this win, hasn't been on a win streak since 2016.
- Fighting for the belt, knowing the UFC have shown to give Conor a lot of support. Title shot would almost be no question if he beats Dustin, especially in spectacular fashion. Question is against who?? If Conor choses to fight another fighter for the belt besides Oliveira or the winner of Gaethje/Chandler the UFC would grant him that. Mcgregor has shown interest in fighting lower ranked or unranked fighters, such as Nate Diaz, Al Iaquinta and Tony Ferguson on a 2 fight skid.
- Boxing instead of continuing to fight in MMA. Conor would have beat the most definitive number 1 contender and put the division in limbo to go fight in boxing for the rest of 2021 and 2022.
- Pushing Conor/Khabib 2 again, putting the division in limbo for months.
- Retirement, Conor has shown that he could probably step away from the sport any moment he wanted to. He might do it going out on top against an elite fighter.
- Dustin would be in very poor position for a future title fight, being 2-1 against the man who held up two divisions. This could keep him at the bottom of the top 5 and being able to gain leverage for a title fight would look difficult.

Conclusion:
These bullet points can be taken negative or positive depending on your perspective. The main reason this fight is being made is money, these are prize fighters after all.
Let me know your perspective on the matter and depending on either fighter winning, the impact it will have on the LW division.

Money.
 
This is such a god damned stupid rematch to make. And fuck Poirer for letting it happen. McGregor has had as close to zero success at LW as one can get and yet we’ve got to tolerate him stalling entire divisions for years at a time because daddy Dana needs that sweet sweet casual money. Poirer could very easily keep this division on track, focused on merit based fights among actual contenders in one of the best divisions in MMA, all he has to do is tell Conor to fuck off and go fight Do Bronx for the title. In actual sports athletes compete for money AND merit.

instead this shit is going to keep being an unwatchable embarrassment

You can't blame Poirier for wanting to make a shit ton of money...it's on the UFC to arrange the fights that make sense.
 
FanDuels got some pre announcement odds available, and Porier is a +120 underdog
 
As long as it's not for the belt I don't think it's much of an issue. Fight has no problem headlining a card without a belt to fight for. It only really becomes an issue to me if the UFC insist on injecting the belt into it. I'm all for Dustin chasing the money where he's being open about he dosen't think the belt should be on the line either if they fight again. He just wants the money.
 
FanDuels got some pre announcement odds available, and Porier is a +120 underdog
Damn that's a bit off to me. I didn't even understand why Conor was such a big favorite for UFC 257, seems they're really banking on Conor reinventing himself.
 
Poirier is literally taking the biggest money match in the world so he can put a significant portion towards a fucking CHARITY (which conor has already and will likely again). shut the fuck up and enjoy the fight you ungrateful FOOL
Oh just shut the fuck up you retard. I haven’t watched this embarrassing shit in years so I’m not ungrateful. I don’t give a fuck if he’s throwing the division in the toilet to feed the poor. I wouldn’t tune into a super bowl between the bengals and browns just because they’re raising money to purchase books for obviously underserved people like you, I tune in because I want to watch the best fight the best. Is Dustin a good guy? Of course. But he could very easily raise money without wasting every legit contender’s time fighting someone who’s had all of one, maybe two successful fights at LW (and really within the last five years).

Just shut the fuck up with your feeding the children shit dummy, I watch sports for competition.
 
If Conor weren't a superstar they wouldn't do the rematch right now but that's how being popular works.
 
Conor is obviously getting special treatment just like he did with Diaz but UFC is always gonna push immediate rematches when it involves the contenders
 
Oh just shut the fuck up you retard. I haven’t watched this embarrassing shit in years so I’m not ungrateful. I don’t give a fuck if he’s throwing the division in the toilet to feed the poor. I wouldn’t tune into a super bowl between the bengals and browns just because they’re raising money to purchase books for obviously underserved people like you, I tune in because I want to watch the best fight the best. Is Dustin a good guy? Of course. But he could very easily raise money without wasting every legit contender’s time fighting someone who’s had all of one, maybe two successful fights at LW (and really within the last five years).

Just shut the fuck up with your feeding the children shit dummy, I watch sports for competition.
That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. First of all none of these fighters owe fans like you a damn thing. If Dustin wants to fight only money fights, then he can do what he wants. If you don’t like that, then stop watching. Second of all, he’s not the champion, so he’s not holding any other contenders back. You want to blame someone for that, then blame Dana or Khabib.
 
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