The All-Encompassing Vitamin D Thread

Vitamin D Status and Muscle Function in Post-Menarchal Adolescent Girls

Mike, have you ever seen anything that seems fairly evident as to optimal levels of Vit D intake? I'll have to see how much my intake is on average daily (with food and supps) out of curiosity.

The study above just seems to be a case of levels of deficiency which as far as I know, research has yet to really be able to clarify what optimal levels are. What
 
Do you need more vitamin D3?

While higher body fat levels can predict vitamin D deficiency, checking your blood levels of D3 is the only way to determine your actual vitamin D status. Optimal blood levels of D3 range are thought to be 32 ng/mL (80 nmol/L). Anything lower than 30 ng/mL (75 nmol/L) indicates deficiency; levels greater than 150 ng/mL (375 nmol/L) indicate toxicity.

If your blood levels of D3 are below 30 ng/mL (75 nmol/L), ask with your physician about taking 2,000 IU of vitamin D3 daily. Although recent recommendations suggest that in the absence of sun exposure, adults should ingest 1,000 IU of vitamin D3 per day, vitamin D3 supplements providing 2,000 IU/day may be more appropriate for heavier individuals.

Is taking 2,000 IU/day of vitamin D safe?

Currently, the tolerable upper limit for vitamin D set by the Institute of Medicine is 2,000 IU per day. However, many of the experts responsible for setting this limit now believe it needs to be substantially increased. Research published in the January 2007 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition reviewed dozens of vitamin D toxicity studies, including some in which volunteers took 100,000 IU a day without any adverse effects!

The authors of the vitamin D toxicity review concluded that the upper limit for daily intake of vitamin D could safely be set at 10,000 IU. This is not surprising when one realizes that just 10-15 minutes whole-body exposure to peak summer sun will generate and release up to 20,000 IU vitamin D3 into the circulation.

Vitamin D

Damn, I did not know that much Vit D was released with such little sun exposure.
 
I work indoors all day as a desktop support techie. I am constantly going outside for sun now that the weather is much better.
 
If the sun exposure rates are really that high, I would think that even if you were outside in a T-Shirt and shorts for ~1 hour a day... you might as well drop the Vit D supps. It would seem like the supplemented amount wouldn't put a dent in that kind or volume the sun would give you. But I'm starting to be a believer in more aggressive vit D supplementation during the colder months or just if sun exposure is extremely limited. I currently only supplement with 400IU a day of Vit D in isolation. Of course I get more with my multi but I'm unsure how much that is right now. I'm considering bumping it up to at least 1,000IU a day. Especially since any WF that actually has a significant level of Vit D isn't routinely on my menu (Cod liver oil, Salmon, Mackerel, Tuna, Sardines).
 
Dammit Mike, I saw the title & was thinking, "WTF, How did I miss this one?"


You think that's bad, I scrolled through my post history 3 times to see if anyone responded to my trader joes post. I was like 'where the fuck is my post???'
 
So is there any difference in absorbability between the softgels and MTC droplets? Trader joes is cheaper and I would like to go with that.
 
Mike, have you ever seen anything that seems fairly evident as to optimal levels of Vit D intake? I'll have to see how much my intake is on average daily (with food and supps) out of curiosity.

Dr. Cannell states 70ng/mL is optimal, and Dr. Davis aims for 60-70ng/mL Grassroots health states between 40-60ng/mL. At this point in time, "optimal" is more a matter of opinion.

canadapride said:
So is there any difference in absorbability between the softgels and MTC droplets? Trader joes is cheaper and I would like to go with that.

As a side note of interest, Dr. Cannell disagrees with Dr Davis on dry tab vs oil based:

"Water-soluble dry Vitamin D absorbs just fine unless you have bowel disease with steatorrea (fat malabsorption) and then no oral products work very well. I am unaware of any controlled head-to-head absorption studies on the effectiveness of water versus fat-soluble vitamin D. If anyone knows of such a study, let me know. If you are concerned about absorption, take the Vitamin D with a meal, although I am unaware this improves absorption."

The only way one would really know if one is better than the other is to get regualr 25(OH)D tests done. Dr. Davis states he's seen patients that have had zero rise in their levels while taking dry tabs, so that's what he's basing it on.

As far as oil based vs MCT drops or spray---no, I doubt there's much of a difference. The sublingual root takes the GI tract completely out of the equation, so in theory, absorption would be better, but that's just pure speculation on my part. I haven't come across anything that either Dr. Davis or Cannell have mentioned regarding this.
 
Mike says on page 2 he takes 3,000 U/I daily. I've actually been taking 4,000 per day since this thread began.
 
"If anyone knows of such a study, let me know. If you are concerned about absorption, take the Vitamin D with a meal, although I am unaware this improves absorption."

In case people are seeing this thread for the first time and haven't read it in its entirety. I posted an abstract on page 10 that did conclude that there was no difference between vit D tabs or gel caps (with fish oil). I'm uncertain if there are more studies to confirm this or not. Although, at the very least, it always makes sense to take vitamins with food (and probably fat specifically).
 
Why not just use cod liver oil for vitamin d supplementation?
 
You have just outed yourself. You have not read the fish oil sticky. :icon_chee

No, I have. I wasn't suggesting using cod liver oil as your main fish oil supplement, but for vitamin D. You'd get the fats needed for absorption, and the vitamin D (along with A).

As long as you have another fish oil supp, what is teh wrong? :redface::redface:
 
Mike says on page 2 he takes 3,000 U/I daily. I've actually been taking 4,000 per day since this thread began.

I was taking 5,000 per day last year, got some 2,000 caps in the corner of my room. Been taking them this week. Starting out slow 2,000 and I will up it to 5,000 maybe 8,000 soon. I know people who are taking 10,000 a day.
 
I think I recall Mike saying he has upped it to 6000 or so per day.


I was taking 5,000 per day last year, got some 2,000 caps in the corner of my room. Been taking them this week. Starting out slow 2,000 and I will up it to 5,000 maybe 8,000 soon. I know people who are taking 10,000 a day.
 
Mike says on page 2 he takes 3,000 U/I daily. I've actually been taking 4,000 per day since this thread began.

I was taking 5,000 per day last year, got some 2,000 caps in the corner of my room. Been taking them this week. Starting out slow 2,000 and I will up it to 5,000 maybe 8,000 soon. I know people who are taking 10,000 a day.
I think I recall Mike saying he has upped it to 6000 or so per day.
 
Lately, 10,00, but we're talking Alberta winters here. :icon_chee As per the pictured post, I now have a 25(OH)D test kit, so once I get the results of that, I'll be able to know how well the supplementation is doing, and either increase, maintain, or decrease based on that, and subsequent tests@6 mo. I'm aiming for 70ng/mL.
 
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