The 11th Republican Presidential Debate 2016 by FOX News [March 3][6PM PST][9PM EST]

Throttlehead said:
You mean how communist China has to lend money to Capitalist USA and make the citizens pay the interest?
It blows me away that people just can't understand that the uber rich have fleeced everyone by paying lobbyists and politicians to make policy for them for $$$ benefit, and they did it while making you think it was ok, in fact defending it.
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China is far more capitalistic than the US - despite you falling for labels.

If the rich can manipulate the system in their favor, oh well. They are still not responsible for the poor just like the poor are not responsible for the rich.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
i didnt mean to insinuate you are poor, sorry if thats how it came off. - i just used two hypothetical situations, but one citizen is not responsible for the economical well being of another, especially when they are already paying 1/5th (at the hypothetical rate of 20%) of their income and they are not using as much of the system.

Even if that person has extra / discretionary income 500000x more than they ever need, its still there money and the government is fleecing them by mandating a higher percentage to be implemented on to them

again, the rich are not responsible for the poor.
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Your perception of economics and the historical (and current) creation of capital is so insanely rudimentary.
 
Tigerknee said:
lol me and my coworkers talked about this when he went around saying con-man, I said we'll see who is a con-man when you have to support the nominee because you pledged to
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I think someone slapped his hand after his Super Tuesday interview. He was adamant he would not support Trump just a few days ago.
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
You want to ignore the history of the robber barons, great depression, and labor movement, and that is why your nominee is Donald Trump.

Have opinions with the depth of a puddle, and get candidates that reflect that.
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i vote for my own economic interests and not for the well being of the bottom 50. i paid nearly 60k between federal and provincial taxes - and yet used no federal benefits - so, excuse me that i feel that i should not have to pay exponentially more because other people are have-nots.
 
Throttlehead said:
You mean how communist China has to lend money to Capitalist USA and make the citizens pay the interest?
It blows me away that people just can't understand that the uber rich have fleeced everyone by paying lobbyists and politicians to make policy for them for $$$ benefit, and they did it while making you think it was ok, in fact defending it.
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China has the extra money. Their citizens get zilch. They have a long term plan. We should all brush up on our mandarin.
 
speakhandsforme said:
Your perception of economics and the historical (and current) creation of capital is so insanely rudimentary.
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how is being against higher percentages on proceeding brackets rudimentary?

explain why i should be on board with it

without using concepts of compassion and the like.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
China is far more capitalistic than the US - despite you falling for labels.

If the rich can manipulate the system in their favor, oh well. They are still not responsible for the poor just like the poor are not responsible for the rich.
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Crony capitalism you mean.
 
MadSquabbles500 said:
Crony capitalism you mean.
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chinas entire structure is to maximize profit with limiting social aide.

The US has far more regulatory implements - but yeah, people scam the system to their favor. But, so do some poor people with social welfare - cant avoid it on any level.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
i didnt mean to insinuate you are poor, sorry if thats how it came off. - i just used two hypothetical situations, but one citizen is not responsible for the economical well being of another, especially when they are already paying 1/5th (at the hypothetical rate of 20%) of their income and they are not using as much of the system.

Even if that person has extra / discretionary income 500000x more than they ever need, its still there money and the government is fleecing them by mandating a higher percentage to be implemented on to them

again, the rich are not responsible for the poor.
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I'll never understand why people defend the pockets of the rich so vehemently. Why? Fairness? Fuck them. When the courts are cured of affluenza then perhaps I'll find a fraction of a fuck to give for the wealthy.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
China is far more capitalistic than the US - despite you falling for labels.

If the rich can manipulate the system in their favor, oh well. They are still not responsible for the poor just like the poor are not responsible for the rich.
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Did you learn this at Trump University?
 
Throttlehead said:
Did you learn this at Trump University?
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do you acknowledge that you will always have people at every level manipulating the system. That banker encouraging a struggling family to take that 500'000 mortgage and that welfare queen who considers having children a payable profession.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
chinas entire structure is to maximize profit with limiting social aide.

The US has far more regulatory implements - but yeah, people scam the system to their favor. But, so do some poor people with social welfare - cant avoid it on any level.
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"while limiting social aide" ? Do you mean social welfare, or social networking? China is all about the networking. All the rich people are relatives of party officials.
 
ILLogic said:
I'll never understand why people defend the pockets of the rich so vehemently. Why? Fairness? Fuck them. When the courts are cured of affluenza then perhaps I'll find a fraction of a fuck to give for the wealthy.
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i have the the same indifference for the bottom
 
Little Marco and Big Don

Hard to believe this is a presidential candidate debate.
 
Rubio, who has a cold, misses a golden opportunity to get his rivals sick too.

 
MadSquabbles500 said:
"while limiting social aide" ? Do you mean social welfare, or social networking? China is all about the networking. All the rich people are relatives of party officials.
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social aide is maybe the wrong term - social economic equality, labour protection, et cetera
 
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