Thank you and goodbye BJJ

[Mike Wilson Jr.]

Thread is filled with Nancy's and wanna be tough guys.

Take time off, heal up, and train responsibly. You dont need to quit, or make threads about doing so.

 

[Jamie Hughes]

Thread is filled with Nancy's and wanna be tough guys.

Take time off, heal up, and train responsibly. You dont need to quit, or make threads about doing so.

man speaks the sense

 

[Yozigi]

As much as it sucks to train with a hurt ankle it's actually one of those parts of the body that can be supported really well with sports tape. If you want to quit then fine, but if you ever feel like you'd like to give the sport another go then buy one of these: http://ankle-foot.com/199RLarge.jpg and/or tape that ankle of yours and (without knowing whether you've actually torn all your tendons or if there's something seriously wrong with your ankle) I'd say you're perfectly ready for practise.

 

[TomiG]

quit stressing the minor injuries and roll
- rib injuries
- fingers/ toes injuries
- ankels/ knees injuries
tape them or show ask the person to stay away from the injured body part. frankly, I roll with jammed up fingers everyday and live with it...
UNLESS the injuries taken a toll on your life outside of bjj, take some time off and FIO! With any high contact sport your going to have injuries not only in BJJ

if something hurts or doesn't feel right.. TAPP! Fight another day!
Not all of us are PROs although some might like to think they are... most are not. tapping doesnt mean you lost, simply means you need a break or somethings is wrong and have fun (even if the rank is lower then you) shows your love towards the sport and not always gazed up on winning.
But GL with the rest of your life and I hope you can suck it up and come back to the gentle art one day.

I hate to be that tough guy but honestly if you have love for the sport chances are a minor injury isnt going to set you back.

 

[pheonix5]

And does that somehow make you a pussy for being responsible or getting tired?

Dude, the entire art of BJJ tapped you out, for good it seems. Dont make tapping too early sound like its dumb.

Exactly.This the problem with EGO that a lot of people don't get.Remember to Tap,tap,tap.There is no shame in it.If you're there trying to show how tough you are,even to yourself,or to be the best in the club at all costs you're going to have a lot of injuries and most likely quit.Learning should be your top priority.If at the end of the you can say 'Well,I didn't get tapped or dominated",well you didn't learn anything.If you focus on technique while sparring instead of 'not getting tapped' you'll grow by leaps and bounds.

 

[DoMn8]

You were drunk while rolling? From what you're saying it's other activities that hampered your abilities to continue in bjj, not bjj itself. It's sort of like me saying basketball hampered my ability to dunk but I broke my leg in a skiing accident before that. The way this thread started it seemed like someone hurt your ankle (or it was hurt repeatedly), when really it was hurt prior to that.

Bingo. It was hurt repeatedly buring BJJ, but i'm pretty sure it was weakened prior to starting despite not having any continued problems.

 

[DoMn8]

Because if he saw a doctor his ankle would have been diagnosed, and the recovery time would have been stated.

A doctor would have recommended he stay away from bjj or quit entirely and if a doctor said that than he,would have mentioned it in a post.... But he didn't.

A doctor would be able to identify whether or not his injury makes bjj impossible.

You're just too lazy to read the posts.

 

[DoMn8]

No, I know this, but you might not know that you take a joke like a little girl. Sorry for hurting your feelings ts.:icon_sad:

Its not a joke man. Its not funny. I'm trying not to whine about this situation because we all know injuries are a part of this game. truth is they've ended it for me though. bad luck, dry eyes, move on. I know.

 

[DoMn8]

You say you favour guard as well TS. Perhaps if you began to dabble in more open guards or half guards rather than lock-your-ankles-together-and-hunt-for-subs-closed-guard you might have a better time of it.

Just try to remember the situations that jacked your ankle up in BJJ and avoid those situations, no matter how much they are your favourite set ups etc.

And surgery may be your best route when it comes down to it. You may quit BJJ but what happens down the road when your an old man and you snap off your ankle because you just never got it taken care of. I personally would not want "walking or jogging" to be the maximum amount of effort I could use my foot for, regardless of sport or activity.
My boss had a bum knee that he just wound up leaving due to a tough as nails mentality. He would still run and work out and all that, and just ice it when it was sore. He's since in the past year gone through several surgeries because it was either that or in a few years needing a full replacement.

Sound advice, thanks man.

 

[DoMn8]

Exactly.This the problem with EGO that a lot of people don't get.Remember to Tap,tap,tap.There is no shame in it.If you're there trying to show how tough you are,even to yourself,or to be the best in the club at all costs you're going to have a lot of injuries and most likely quit.Learning should be your top priority.If at the end of the you can say 'Well,I didn't get tapped or dominated",well you didn't learn anything.If you focus on technique while sparring instead of 'not getting tapped' you'll grow by leaps and bounds.

I obviously need to develop this mindset. I feel disappointed with myself if I tap to fatigue, I didn't get caught if I just gave up. The times I've held on and fought and then had the other guy presented an opportunity because he's tired too are some of the most memorable to me.

I always saw this bulding resilience not ego, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[DoMn8]

That really sucks man, good luck in your future. Its a tough decision but I understand it.

And all the guys being douches - you must not have ever had a serious injury. Its the worst feeling in the world, as if your body betrayed you. Good luck domn8.

Thanks very much. You obviously really understand.

 

[DoMn8]

As much as it sucks to train with a hurt ankle it's actually one of those parts of the body that can be supported really well with sports tape. If you want to quit then fine, but if you ever feel like you'd like to give the sport another go then buy one of these: http://ankle-foot.com/199RLarge.jpg and/or tape that ankle of yours and (without knowing whether you've actually torn all your tendons or if there's something seriously wrong with your ankle) I'd say you're perfectly ready for practise.

is that McDavid? here we go thinking theres some hope..........

If I go back and get hurt again, i promise not to post about it again.

 

[Turismo]

You don't sound like a dick. BJJ is rough, thats why i'm all f**ked up. Loved it but i'm not going to cripple myself. Hope you get to do it for the rest of your life.

Sad to hear about it man. Recently I've been having s string of injuries in Judo and have had to re-think whether its really worth it. Allot of people that post on the board see bjj/judo as their way of life, others not so much. Have you tried using ankle supporters and allot of tape etc It's a shame that you feel you feel the need to leave the sport. All the best to you regardless man.

 

[Bathwater]

I don't know why so many people are giving this dude the tough guy act. He's got preexisting injuries and BJJ was exacerbating them. It got to the point where it was interfering with his day to day life. Sure it seems like he made some mistakes during training but honestly, i thinkw e all have. We were likely just fortunate enough to have been delt less serious repercussions.

TS-legit sorry for you situation. I'd be crushed if i couldn't train anymore. Honestly, if I were you I'd take some time off and see how I felt a few months down the road. Then tape that shit up like a cast and go easy on it. Good luck, man.

 

[td82394]

Nah, you misunderstand. I didn't get injured from not tapping. I'm talking about those few occasions when you were just tired of someone's weight on you and tapped to their crappy arm triangle just to rest. I regret that coz I was healthy and capable. there is such a thing as tapping too early, your grip is broken on an armbar struggle and you tap before even attempting to escape.

Maybe thats just me though, a pussy by all accounts.

Oh, my bad... lol

 

[Vitamin C]

I know plenty of good reasons to tap when your grip is broken on an armbar, depends on your partner and the intensity of the roll.

My instructor emphasizes learning your limits with taps, but if you can't afford a break or hyperextension or torn shoulder, tapping early is fine. He does frown on guys who tap when you get any shitty grip on their collars. With chokes he figures it's much safer to try to hold out and see how far you can push the defense. Still tap before you go out... but part of learning your limits will be going out.

 

[kintana]

I have had my injuries in BJJ. But I would never think about quitting. I have had ankle and rib pain. So I just found a way to manage it. Either training less or warming up better. I noticed when I started doing some good ankle warm ups I have never had any problems.

There are ways to strengthen certain bodyparts that are prone to injury. For me it was ankle and rib area and slight back problems.

I dont think there is a web format, but european BJJ magazine had a good article on strengthening areas prone to injury.

If you love BJJ you will find a way to continue doing it.

 

[DaRuckus337]

Anyone giving the thread starter a hard time, calling him a pussy, is pretty stupid and proabably hasn't been around long enough to appreciate the havoc the sport can wreak on a healthy body. When you really look around at the older black belt population, a lot of them are seriously fucked up. If a guy decides he doesn't want to do that to himself, well, good for him and good luck. But don't criticize the guy - he has his reasons.

Correct. Just click on the profiles of some of the more obnoxious posters and you'll see every one of them started grappling within the past ~2 years. The type of arrogance they are displaying could only come from a place of ignorance and inexperience. I would love to see them all revisit this thread in another 3 years when their bodies have begun to accumulate a little damage.

 

[aunshi189]

Well this thread just seems to have become a 'prove how much you love BJJ by ripping on TS'.

I enjoy BJJ a lot, I hope I keep doing it as long as I am able, but if a doctor told me I might be limiting my ability to walk or otherwise enjoy life (especially if like TS I had a family) I'd quit. No matter how much you love BJJ surely health and loved ones have to come first, especially when you are recreationally pursuing it and not winning mundials or anything.

 

[DoMn8]

I don't know why so many people are giving this dude the tough guy act. He's got preexisting injuries and BJJ was exacerbating them. It got to the point where it was interfering with his day to day life. Sure it seems like he made some mistakes during training but honestly, i thinkw e all have. We were likely just fortunate enough to have been delt less serious repercussions.

TS-legit sorry for you situation. I'd be crushed if i couldn't train anymore. Honestly, if I were you I'd take some time off and see how I felt a few months down the road. Then tape that shit up like a cast and go easy on it. Good luck, man.

I didn't come here looking to be convinced to go back to training but its balanced advice like this, Yozigi and kintana's that makes me think longer term. Never say never (I know my original post said never), maybe I'll go back in a years time with a robo-ankle heavy duty support (although i wouldn't appeciate someone trying to push that under my chin for the gogoplata). Thanks to everyone that gave actual advice and support, even if some of it was harsh. Its good to know there are some tough dudes out there still training with recurrent injuries and finding ways to manage them.

Thanks