TERMINATOR: DARK FATE (Dragonlord's Review, post #1)

[TheRuthlessOne]

So it looks like it'll be another occasion of the critic reviews being fair to high while the audience reviews are down in the dumpster.

Do these not convince you of the amazing quality of this film?

You like comedy, RIGHT!?!?!

Nostalgia, chemistry and some sneaky "Deadpool" sarcasm help carry the load.

Ladies rule, Arnold gets a funny re-tool, and some cheeky implausibility makes it kinda cool.

Rev-9 is easily the most sophisticated, sinister and pimped-out piece of murder-tech to ever appear in a Terminator movie.

Sometimes it doesn't take much to revitalize a dead intellectual property. Sometimes all it takes is a movie in which "Hasta la vista, baby" isn't the extent of the characters' Spanish.

 

[StewDogg11]

Spoiler

So the T-800 kills John in 1998? How is that even possible?

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Spoiler

So the T-800 kills John in 1998? How is that even possible?

Skynet sent back another Terminator

And another one

And another

and another

And yeahh....

 

[Clippy]

This breaks my heart you guys

 

[BisexualMMA]

Skynet sent back another Terminator

And another one

And another

and another

And yeahh....

 

[StewDogg11]

Skynet sent back another Terminator

And another one

And another

and another

And yeahh....

Why would they send back a T-800 when they had the T-1000?

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

The problem here is clear

Every time Skynet or Legion send back a Terminator, someone else always sends back a protector

Unless you need John Conor to die in your new Terminator film, In that case no protector gets sent back

Why would they send back a T-800 when they had the T-1000?

Do you even Arnold bro?

 

[Ying Li]

Feminist Diversity Agenda - got it.

Hard pass.

 

[chrisdiaz]

I didnt even realize how terrible the terminator was due to all the other bad in this movie. He has NO backstory at all. The future scenes were interesting but looked alot like edge of tomorrow and should have been in the dark like all the other future scenes in T1 and 2. Kate brewster was a better character then dani. If they would have gotten Emily Blunt to play grace, I think this would have worked better. The dani girl reminded me of that chick from Jane the Virgin. Review was correct about the weightlessness to these robots that are supposed to weigh 400 + LBs.

 

[StewDogg11]

The problem here is clear

Every time Skynet or Legion send back a Terminator, someone else always sends back a protector

Unless you need John Conor to die in your new Terminator film, In that case no protector gets sent back





Do you even Arnold bro?

Robert Patrick needs to eat too brah!!!

 

[Prex32]

I legit can't believe Cameron's name is attached to a movie that pulls the exact stunt Alien 3 did that pissed so many people off.

wut? a3 is great

 

[BJJ NINJA]

mother fucker

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

wut? a3 is great

Alien 3 did what Terminator should have done

Get rid of all the marines and plasma rifles and went back to the horror roots

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

I'm not surprised.

 

[SamSchmidt]

See this only strengthens my argument further that Salvation. At the end of the day. Wasn't that bad of a fucking movie.

 

[heavyarms21]

Update: October 30, 2019

Dragonlord’s Review of TERMINATOR: DARK FATE (Spoilers)

Bottom Line: Ruins the mythology so bad that not even the return of Linda Hamilton’s Sarah Connor could save it, Dark Fate is The Last Jedi of the Terminator franchise and personally my worst Terminator film to date.

[Warning: Review will contain spoilers, so do not read any further. Or just read it anyway since the movie is not that good.]

The film starts in 1998, three years after the events of Terminator: Judgment Day. We see Sarah Connor and a 13-year-old John Connor relaxing in a Guatemala beach. The de-aging or CGI effects for younger Sarah and John are very well-done, same also goes to a young Arnold Schwarzenegger whose T-800 character casually walks by and shoots John dead.

Bringing back a classic character like John Connor (with the meticulous likeness of Edward Furlong) and just unceremoniously killing him pisses me off especially if you’re a big fan of T2. This is like killing off fan-favorites Hicks and Newt in Alien 3 or even what happened with Sarah Connor in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Dark Fate is off to a bad start and about to get worse as its female empowerment directive threatens to terminate any prominent character with the Y chromosome.

Skip to the year 2020, an advanced Terminator prototype, the Rev-9 (Gabriel Luna), is sent by the new future A.I overlord, Legion, to eliminate Danielle “Dani” Ramos (Natalia Reyes) who plays an important role in the future. Protecting Dani from the Rev-9 are granny-looking Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton), an augmented human solider from the future, Grace (Mackenzie Davis) and an aged T-800, Carl (Schwarzenegger).

At this point, the story is getting stale and repetitive with the whole Terminator chasing the savior of mankind shtick. Dark Fate just wasted its R-rating as it doesn’t really offer anything except for a few profanity and not-so-gruesome kills. The action from director Tim Miller feels too slick and superhero-ish and doesn’t have the grounded or heavy feel typical for a Terminator movie. At times the CGI action looks fake especially when Grace is involved.

It’s great to see Linda Hamilton again in the Terminator universe but her granny Sarah Connor is a bit unlikable at first because she’s trying too hard to act cool and always trying to say something witty. No major complaints with Mackenzie Davis as she was pretty decent in her role (I did hate the gender pronoun gag though). Arnold Schwarzenegger as Carl, a T-800 that has learned to grow a conscience and become more human over the years, was the better character among the bunch and it shows as the movie became a bit more lively when he finally re-enters into the picture. Too bad this aged T-800 concept feels like a rehash since Genisys already did something similar first. Gabriel Luna is miscast and is just plain boring as the Rev-9.

The worst character is Dani Ramos, the new John Connor of this alternate timeline. The diminutive Latina is just not believable as the future leader of the human resistance, even when they show her in the future scenes as the older version. She is just so cringey to watch when she gets all bratty and orders the other more experienced fighters to take a stand and take out the Rev-9. It’s also laughable how she can’t hit the targets (approx. 40 feet away) with her handgun during a shooting range practice but when she is given a semi-auto shotgun, she managed to cleanly shoot off the targets without damaging the target stand.

They really went overboard with the girl power aspect as the movie seems intent on killing off any prominent male characters. John Connor - dead. Dani’s father – dead. Dani’s brother – dead. Even though they’re robots, they still looked like men, so Carl and Rev-9 – dead dead. Ultimately, Grace, with her short manly hair and flat chest, looked too much of a man. So they also killed her. In the end, only Dani and Sarah survived which sucks if they are planning on making this the first of a new trilogy because they just killed off two of their more interesting characters in Grace and Carl.

Some of the early critics’ reactions for Terminator: Dark Fate dubbed it The Force Awakens of the Terminator franchise. I disagree. Dark Fate is more like The Last Jedi of the Terminator films with its ability for subverting expectations in the worst way and overall destroying the promising mythology in favor of pushing an unwanted feminist/diversity agenda.

Rating: 4.5/10

Yup fuck wasting my money

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Yup fuck wasting my money

I might go tonight

 

[heavyarms21]

I might go tonight

Make sure you don't leave Woke

 

[Jesus X]

Ummm, excuse me fascist. Responsible movies empower women and other oppressed demographics to understand that they are perfect as they are and all they have to do is believe in themselves. We're all resistance leaders and the savior of humanity, just the way we are, we just need to realize it!

There's a reason that ARC is in PatriARChy.

Dani Ramos is going to scare the fuck out of closet misogynists.

 

[Jesus X]

I watched joker twice because the rest of the films sucked I hope november brings better movies