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Technological Unemployment

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A 60 Minutes broadcast on the subject of technological unemployment. The show ends without examining ways of preparing for this possibility. Ideas such as Universal Basic Income, workers' ownership of automated facilities, increased wages/benefits, sharing dividends with displaced workers, reduced workday, subsidized re-training, etc. All of which are worth examining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
 
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There's no evidence that this is occurring, or that it's ever occurred.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Where does curtailing population growth fit in?
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I don't think we'll have to. As nations get more advanced their fertility rates tend to decline. It happened in Europe, then the US, then Japan and Korea. I think it'll probably happen everywhere eventually (a long eventually, but still).

Plus I think war and famine from climate change will significantly reduce the population of the world before the end of the 21st century.
 
Uchi Mata said:
I don't think we'll have to. As nations get more advanced their fertility rates tend to decline. It happened in Europe, then the US, then Japan and Korea. I think it'll probably happen everywhere eventually (a long eventually, but still).

Plus I think war and famine from climate change will significantly reduce the population of the world before the end of the 21st century.
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Maybe it will. I doubt I'll see it. Plumbing isn't that recent of a development yet there's no shortage of people who lack it. http://www.irinnews.org/report/88504/sanitation-more-than-one-billion-people-still-without-toilets

Maybe we need to build some robot plumbers first, wind 'em up and set 'em lose in these ten countries the article says contain 8/10 of the plumbing-less.

I'm more inclined to believe the four horsemen of the apocalypse (famine, war, disease & death) will do more to sort it out that anything else.
 
Polarization of wealth will occur, with the rich controlling a greater share of wealth while middle class will diminish. The pattern will continue until social unrest reach a tipping point, and a revolution will replace the old ruling class with a new group of wealthy power holders.

That has been the pattern in history generally. No, there won't be a communist utopia if some of you hope that it would happen. Greed cannot be tamed.
 
haha I helped build that set. it's a dinky "green room" with a stool & they use Viz Virtual Studio.


one of the pilots is this super crusty old woman who is a life long smoker & has a voice more rough & coarse than Mac's mom from Always Sunny.
 
Orgasmo said:
Polarization of wealth will occur, with the rich controlling a greater share of wealth while middle class will diminish. The pattern will continue until social unrest reach a tipping point, and a revolution will replace the old ruling class with a new group of wealthy power holders.

That has been the pattern in history generally. No, there won't be a communist utopia if some of you hope that it would happen. Greed cannot be tamed.
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it seems like people are thinking of that newish Matt Damon movie with the healthcare robots.

edit: Elysium
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Maybe we need to build some robot plumbers first, wind 'em up and set 'em lose in these ten countries the article says contain 8/10 of the plumbing-less.
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Hammacher sells a window washing robot. Cash or credit? :)

http://www.hammacher.com/Product/83...pzilla&zmam=36352540&zmas=1&zmac=3&zmap=83975

"If one divided up the unpleasant tasks equally, that would mean all the world's top scientists and engineers would have to do them too; one could expect the creation of self-cleaning kitchens and coal-mining robots almost immediately" Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology by David Graeber
 
ben236 said:
There's no evidence that this is occurring, or that it's ever occurred.
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Wut.

Quick ring the switchboard operator to connect you to your local newspaper editor so they can stop the presses. This isn't news!

Oh that's right... they're already stopping the presses for reasons TBD.
 
killakoy said:
Wut.

Quick ring the switchboard operator to connect you to your local newspaper editor so they can stop the presses. This isn't news!

Oh that's right... they're already stopping the presses for reasons TBD.
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I meant on a macro level. The economy evolves, technological innovation leads to the creation of new industries and the destruction of others. And yes, there is no evidence that technological innovation has led to an increase in unemployment on a macro level.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Maybe it will. I doubt I'll see it. Plumbing isn't that recent of a development yet there's no shortage of people who lack it. http://www.irinnews.org/report/88504/sanitation-more-than-one-billion-people-still-without-toilets

Maybe we need to build some robot plumbers first, wind 'em up and set 'em lose in these ten countries the article says contain 8/10 of the plumbing-less.

I'm more inclined to believe the four horsemen of the apocalypse (famine, war, disease & death) will do more to sort it out that anything else.
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There is also a massive shortage of Welders, Corrections Officers, HVAC repair, etc.

We're becoming a retail nation, and that's not good.
 
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