Teacher's son wears a Hitler costume - Says world is "too sensitive"

When I was younger it was the Soviet Union that would put people out of work and onto blacklists etc if they rocked the boat in any way. Now the wheel has gone full circle. The notion that a parent could lose their job because their teenage kid went to a fancy dress party in the wrong outfit would have been unthinkable in western society fifty years ago. Absolutely unthinkable. Talk about going backwards....
 
retsdon said:
When I was younger it was the Soviet Union that would put people out of work and onto blacklists etc if they rocked the boat in any way. Now the wheel has gone full circle. The notion that a parent could lose their job because their teenage kid went to a fancy dress party in the wrong outfit would have been unthinkable in western society fifty years ago. Absolutely unthinkable. Talk about going backwards....
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stop being silly lmao

in the 60's USA you could literally be fired because you wore a red tie too often. must be a communist right?

and imagine someone's kid dressing as hitler 50 years ago when there were still a lot of recent ww2 vets walking around. you're making shit up and being hysterical.
 
JonnyRingo84 said:
stop being silly lmao

in the 60's USA you could literally be fired because you wore a red tie too often. must be a communist right?

and imagine someone's kid dressing as hitler 50 years ago when there were still a lot of recent ww2 vets walking around. you're making shit up and being hysterical.
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The 1950s are often marked by historians as the decade of the most "conformity" to social opinion in the 20th century.

Calling people who did anything you disagreed with a commie was the 1960s Salem Witch Trials. I mean the righties in this thread who are cool with Hitler outfits are the first to label people they disagree with as socialists and what not.
 
sweede said:
Perspective, yeah it is true, but I don´t believe that a Uber Jew has been affecting my childhood until now in making Hitler to some Baba Yaga. How do you feel about extreme parties in your own country and mine doing the Hitler salute and wearing swastikas? Does it bother you? Or are you indifferent?
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You put more emphasis on Hitler, over other dictators who genocided mass numbers of people, because you identify more with Jewish people's plights than those of the others. The Slavic or Cambodian people, and the atrocities directed at them, feel more distant because they don't have much of a voice in the international stage. There are no movies made about them, no stories written.

I do not say that as a way of taking anything away from the Holocaust, but just as a matter of fact. We here in the West don't give much of a shit about the millions of Chinese dead under Japanese occupation. If somebody wants to play at being Emperor Hirohito, nobody'll give a fuck, even in America, even though him and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and directly attacked America, whereas the Nazis did not.

As for people doing Nazi salutes, couldn't care less what some fringe groups consisting of about two dozen individuals do. Whatever floats their boat. As I said, Nazi LARPing has become a thing because it is the "counter-cultural" thing to do.

The more you get disgusted by it, the more you will see it done by people who despise mainstream culture anyway.
 
TheGreatA said:
You put more emphasis on Hitler, over other dictators who genocided mass numbers of people, because you identify more with Jewish people's plights than those of the others. The Slavic or Cambodian people, and the atrocities directed at them, feel more distant because they don't have much of a voice in the international stage. There are no movies made about them, no stories written.

I do not say that as a way of taking anything away from the Holocaust, but just as a matter of fact. We here in the West don't give much of a shit about the millions of Chinese dead under Japanese occupation. If somebody wants to play at being Emperor Hirohito, nobody'll give a fuck, even in America, even though him and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and directly attacked America, whereas the Nazis did not.
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there is a lot of truth to this.

i also think though, that the WAY the nazis attempted to ethnically cleanse was a little more dramatic than other groups. they turned it into a machine. most other genocides looked like the nazi einsatzgruppen, but the eventual factory like nature of places like treblinka is so much more terrifying for some reason.
 
The past really has been sanitized for a lot of people. People actually long for the good ole days of McCarthyism, the 2nd Red Scare, separate twin beds, filming Elvis only above the waist, and protesting over John Lennon saying the Beatles were more popular than God.

Yes, that's when skin was thick. The good ole days.

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Insanely, the past has been politicized. Certain politicians have spent so much time idealizing the past that a lot of people have forgotten to actually study it.
 
JonnyRingo84 said:
there is a lot of truth to this.

i also think though, that the WAY the nazis attempted to ethnically cleanse was a little more dramatic than other groups. they turned it into a machine. most other genocides took the form of the nazi einsatzgruppen, but the factory like nature of places like treblinka is so much more terrifying for some reason.
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Perhaps it is more dramatic because it has been more dramatized by movies.

I think the mass rapes/murder at Nanking, or Unit 731's experiments (pardoned by Americans, incidentally), or Katyn Massacre, for example, were every bit as systematic and horrifying.

There are some Russian movies that depict the Soviet massacres, and they are pretty gruesome and detailed. Obviously not popular anywhere than the Eastern part of the world, though.

Here's what a Baltic/Finno-Ugric patriot would have experienced at the hands of Soviet agents (long after WW2 was over):

The report of a commission formed at a KGB prison a few days after the October 15, 1956 arrest of Adolfas Ramanauskas ("Vanagas"), chief commander of the Union of Lithuanian Freedom Fighters, noted the following:

The right eye is covered with haematoma, on the eyelid there are six stab wounds made, judging by their diameter, by a thin wire or nail going deep into the eyeball. Multiple haematomas in the area of the stomach, a cut wound on a finger of the right hand. The genitalia reveal the following: a large tear wound on the right side of the scrotum and a wound on the left side, both testicles and spermatic ducts are missing.[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Brothers#In_Lithuania

But as I said, there are no stories written about these men. No graves either.
 
TheGreatA said:
You put more emphasis on Hitler, over other dictators who genocided mass numbers of people, because you identify more with Jewish people's plights than those of the others. The Slavic or Cambodian people, and the atrocities directed at them, feel more distant because they don't have much of a voice in the international stage. There are no movies made about them, no stories written.

I do not say that as a way of taking anything away from the Holocaust, but just as a matter of fact. We here in the West don't give much of a shit about the millions of Chinese dead under Japanese occupation. If somebody wants to play at being Emperor Hirohito, nobody'll give a fuck, even in America, even though him and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and directly attacked America, whereas the Nazis did not.

As for people doing Nazi salutes, couldn't care less what some fringe groups consisting of about two dozen individuals do. Whatever floats their boat. As I said, Nazi LARPing has become a thing because it is the "counter-cultural" thing to do.

The more you get disgusted by it, the more you will see it done by people who despise mainstream culture anyway.
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This makes alot of sense. But we are here discussing in a thread concering our western way of life. I don´t know the culture in Russia or Cambodia regarding them having gatherings where they dress up and having fun. We could go on for an eternity what people from around the globe has done to other people. But in this thread it´s not relevant because we are talking about people that feels more close to our way of living, the western way. Would you agree that Hitler feels to close in time and we as adults should not encourage our children to associate Hitler as something trivial and fun?
 
sweede said:
This makes alot of sense. But we are here discussing in a thread concering our western way of life. I don´t know the culture in Russia or Cambodia regarding them having gatherings where they dress up and having fun. We could go on for an eternity what people from around the globe has done to other people. But in this thread it´s not relevant because we are talking about people that feels more close to our way of living, the western way. Would you agree that Hitler feels to close in time and we as adults should not encourage our children to associate Hitler as something trivial and fun?
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Our Western way of life is ever-changing. In the 19th century, Napoleon was regarded akin to what Hitler is now, the boogeyman to end all boogeymen. And to our generations, Napoleon is more of a joke than a threat to our way of life, a comedic figure. And Hitler too, will likely be more of a joke to future generations, once there is enough distance to separate them from the reality of Hitler's actions.

If children recognize Hitler as trivial and fun, it doesn't matter to me, no more than if they see Napoleon or Genghis Khan, as trivial and fun. As history passes on, what was once deemed important to previous generations, turns into statistics to future ones. It is called moving on.
 
Honestly, I'm too annoyed by the hypocrisy on display ITT by all the usual suspects to really comment on the thread topic in a sensible way. I'm going the fuck back to bed. Fuck this thread.
 
LEGS MAHONEY said:
Which is true. Spains black population per your own link are a newer addition to the countries population.
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And by newer you mean 800 years ago.

You again only provide your own opinion and your words do not change the information actually provided in my TWO links, nor the fact that 2 Spanish cities speak Arabic and Berber.

You lose on all accounts.
 
JonnyRingo84 said:
stop being silly lmao

in the 60's USA you could literally be fired because you wore a red tie too often. must be a communist right?

and imagine someone's kid dressing as hitler 50 years ago when there were still a lot of recent ww2 vets walking around. you're making shit up and being hysterical.
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Well I'm 62, and 50 years ago there weren't 'still a lot of vets walking around' - just about every adult I knew had been in the War. My father landed D Day+4 and took the overland route to Germany, and my mother was a nurse in Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital during the Blitz. And I can tell you for a fact that neither of them would have supported someone being fired for their kid dressing up in the wrong clothes. In fact, I can imagine that they would have been outraged. What are you basing your own conjecture on?
 
retsdon said:
Well I'm 62, and 50 years ago there weren't 'still a lot of vets walking around' - just about every adult I knew had been in the War. My father landed D Day+4 and took the overland route to Germany, and my mother was a nurse in Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital during the Blitz. And I can tell you for a fact that neither of them would have supported someone being fired for their kid dressing up in the wrong clothes. In fact, I can imagine that they would have been outraged. What are you basing your own conjecture on?
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the fact that your parent's generation were well known for blacklisting and outing people for things as petty as wearing red too often.
 
sweede said:
As Rational Poster said it.

Stalin, Mao, Idi Amin, Genghis, Pol Pot, Mohammed, Napoleon (this guy even saw his soldiers as just a mass, the bigger the mass, the bigger chance of not losing a battle) etc etc. The history has seen some really shitty people in power, but the cultural impact, making a blue print in to our souls has never been on the same level as Hitler. You can´t find a figure in the history of mankind who has had this impact. Hitler and the symbol of the Nazi cross is simply the ultimate insult to human life. And someone mentioned Stalin. Maybe if he was more of a public figure and made some more bombastic speaches and were not so shy with his own persona, maybe he would have had the same impact. But he can´t hold a candle compared to Adolf.
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Because MSM pushed Hitler down our throats. If they shoved Mao, Stalin, or Pol Pot down our throats more, we probably go to war with them back then

Napoleon is colloquially considered the most biographed person ever. It is said there are more biographies written about him than any other. I doubt many of them are too disparaging though. Napoleon is often admired, and thought of as pretty cool. Maybe not so in his time, but certainly in ours. All thanks to MSM, of course.
 
EradiatedHaggis said:
And by newer you mean 800 years ago.

You again only provide your own opinion and your words do not change the information actually provided in my TWO links, nor the fact that 2 Spanish cities speak Arabic and Berber.

You lose on all accounts.
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No because again the moors were not black.

2 Spanish cities speaking Arabic and Berber also does not help the Moors being black either. How you think this is a big ol case of <{MindBrown}>

Now sit your 1/4 Black "Spanish" ass down skippy.<{yearp}>
 
Bitch you couldn’t have made him Charlie Chaplin?
 
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