Swim Caps are Racist

[HunterSdVa29]

wait MadMick was a Northern Section CIF champ 3x?

I don't care if that was in Water Polo (will cain bless), that's highly impressive regardless of the sport. Respect

 

[LukeSkyrocker]

Swim caps have conventionally been designed as one size fits all for straighter, less curly hairstyles. They help with resistance in the water, but are not meant to keep water fully out. Singleton tells her students that the most important factor in choosing a swim cap is size and type, not brand, but she says many students don’t know how to put on a swim cap properly in the first place. There’s little instruction on the internet on what to do if they have afros or dreadlocks. “I’ve had black girls that have had the entire backs of their hair broken off from breakage, or [from] not having the right moisturizers because of the chemicals and the rubbing of the caps,” she says.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/swim-caps-black-women/567398/

Shame on you white folks.

White people cmon now stop all a that racisting

 

[Leagon]

2.) Absolutely is.


climate change and flooding makes it even more important.

3.) There is only one state in the US that does not have a lake. other than that there is 125,000 lakes in the lower 48 states. I live in Ontario which also boats 125,000 lakes on its own. I learned to swim in a river that was near my house. There are lots of nice deep spots in it. Never heard of a swimming hole? I also went swimming at neighbors houses as well who weren't as poor as us, but mostly the river. My cousin learned to swim in the pacific. Swimming in the ocean is actually easier given that you float so much more.

2. People always think that their life is similar to other people's lives. I grew up in a desert. Being able to run away from snakes contributed far more to reaching adulthood than being able to swim, yet I would never say track and field is an essential life skill. The only time I was in water was when I went specifically to go swimming. Water never snuck on me to try and kill me.

3. So in your one province, there are as many lakes as in the entire continental US. How many people are in your province? How many are in the US? Do you really think everyone in the US lives near a lake?

 

[LukeSkyrocker]

Above ground pools have been around since the 1920s in various forms.

Above ground pools that you'd more commonly recognize with today started to appear in the 1940s.

"From the mid-’50s through the ’60s, other industry players such as Bilnor Corp., Coleco (later purchased by Lomart Industries), Muskin Leisure, Wilkes Pools and the Delair Group added lines to the market. The new pools sported epoxy-coated steel walls supported by posts made of galvanized steel or extruded aluminum. A 2-inch-wide top rail (expanded to approximately 9 inches by the 1990s) provided structural support. On the pools’ interiors, manufacturers introduced vinyl liners, designed to withstand harsh winter weather — allowing pools to be left outside throughout the year."

Are black guys dicks keeping white guys out of porn?

 

[Rational Poster]

Good lord... yes, let's keep the white guilt flowing.

The City of Houston has several free swim days each month for residents. The city also offered several free swim lessons for kids during the summer.

If families and kids want to go swimming, there's plenty of opportunities to do so.

Today, sure, but the hobby just doesn't exist in their culture.

It wasn't the same for most of our history. Blacks were excluded from American pool life so the parents of black children today still don't have that in their culture.

Parents can't teach children something they were never allowed to learn and they'll also have little interest teaching them something they don't themselves have an interest in.

 

[Gregolian]

I didn't mean it like that.. just that black people certainly didn't have the wealth to live in such a neighborhood I was lucky to grow up in.

My family was by no means wealthy either, if anything I'm doing better than my grandmother/grandfather.

Another anecdote I learned recently, my local high school didn't even have the first blacks students attend till the 70s.

Man, I'm not entirely proud of this but one of the black kids in my school made the joke...

When I was a senior we had like... 5 black students in the school... that's from Freshman through Seniors.

I'd be standing with him during lunch and another of the black kids would walk by:
"Welp, 20% of the entire black population is in one area now"

 

[Rational Poster]

Are black guys dicks keeping white guys out of porn?

Nope.

Plenty of white guys in porn not sure what you're talking about.

 

[2arctanx]

Explain to the rest of us how swim caps are not "designed for black hair".

you white folks make swim caps deliberately too small, you always try to keep black people down. this is why so many black folks can't swim. this is why so many olympic swimmers are not black. you white folks hate it when black folks try to get ahead.

 

[Gutter Chris]

I grew up in Nevada and lots of people had in ground pools in the suburbs. That's how we all learned to swim. Maybe it depends on where you're from.

I think where you come from matters

Where I grew up you go to the lake which one doesnt matter and your parents toss your ass in and you learn


Lol at access to pools being any kind of reason people cant swim in most places in our country

also if you arent in competition why do you need a cap in the first place ?

If someones hair is so special that it cant get wet I would think that being a much more obvious reason that type of person doesnt swim than pools or swim caps


There are certain states and places in this world where there really is no valid excuse at all for not being able to swim. Nevada might have a good excuse but no one on the coasts or the great lakes has any kind of excuse at all.

 

[Armbars]

We don't have or never have had pools in our gardens here in the UK.

Same thing is true though, black people are unlikely to be good swimmers, and you rarely see black folk at a swimming pool. It's mainly a cultural thing. Nothing to do with the design of a cap.

So stop trying to be smart.

 

[JJSBUR]

are any of us competitive swimmers?

I know competitive swimmers wear them, as to divers. But of the general public who the fuck wears them?

You asked a question that you already knew the answer to.

Look at your post. You also did it with a bit of an attitude.

 

[Gregolian]

3. Good point, but no one learns... ...Or a river.

Me and all my friends learned in a river with the yell from our dads:
"Sink or swim motherfuckers"

 

[Leagon]

Ooh, look, you wedged in a reference to my (afayk) whiteness in the middle of your ad hominem about my "miniscule life experience" which, as you are forced to concede, dwarfs your own in this matter.

This lady is a self-proclaimed swim coach. She is not a USA Swimming certified coach: much less the head coach of a USA club. I was when I still coached. Notice that she's 30-years-old, but she's been a swim coach for 16 years? So this lady has been a "coach" since she was 14. That isn't even old enough to be an accredited head coach.

I was also an 3x Academic All-American, and a 3x NSCIF Section Champion. Yes, your hair will get wet (not entirely), but that isn't the purpose of a swim cap. It's just a bonus. The primary purpose of a swim cap for competitive swimmers is to reduce drag.

This is why swimmers wash their hair after practice. It's not rocket science. There are also plenty of products for female swimmers who wish to mitigate any chlorine damage to their hair.

Young white kids with extremely fair hair who are competitive swimmers often develop a green tint in their hair. My own younger brother had such a bad case of this that it shows up in pictures (it's much easier to see in person than in pictures, especially with older and less sophisticated cameras). Our hair isn't magically resistant to chlorine damage, either. In fact, those with finer hair tend to be more susceptible to damage due to reduced volume-to-surface-area.

You know what swimmers use to apply swim caps more easily, and to help soak up any excess moisture that sneaks into the cap? Baby powder.

Yeah, I've put you in a tough position, alright; one where you are forced to swallow your ignorance.

This is a thread about black hair and swim caps. The fact that you consider yourself an authority speaks to how delusional you are.

I've never claimed any knowledge on this topic. It's not my knowledge vs Madmick's knowledge, despite how desperately you want it to be. It's Madmick vs a black swim coach and the entire team at the Atlantic.

If you understood that you were arguing against them, and not me, then you would've presented evidence to discount their argument.

But instead, all you've done is mention your own life experiences then get butthurt that I mentioned how your life experience on a racial issue doesn't give you much authority when the race being discussed isnt your own.

Does being a swimming world champion give you insight into how black hair is affected by swim caps? If Michael Phelps come in here and disagrees with you, does that mean he's right because he's a better swimmer? Do you not see how irrelevant your credentials are in this specific discussion?

 

[nostradumbass]

There are 300,000 Public pools and 10.4 million private pools.

Hope this helps.

I'm sure @HunterSdVa29 is going to tell me the 10.4 million private pools were built in the last decade though.

You think a pool in someone's backyard accommodates the same number of people as a public pool?

 

[Gutter Chris]

Today, sure, but the hobby just doesn't exist in their culture.

It wasn't the same for most of our history. Blacks were excluded from American pool life so the parents of black children today still don't have that in their culture.

Parents can't teach children something they were never allowed to learn and they'll also have little interest teaching them something they don't themselves have an interest in.

this is defeatist horse shit

What percentage of our planet is covered in water ?

Teaching your kids to swim isnt a fucking hobby its a survival lesson like looking both ways before you cross and there isnt a good excuse for having a child that cant swim even if you cant because as a parent its your job to teach the little shit some skills and get past your own ignorance

 

[Leagon]

Me and all my friends learned in a river with the yell from our dads:
"Sink or swim motherfuckers"

Like...a proper river?? All the rivers I've seen are enormous and fast. You mean like a creek? Or maybe there are much smaller rivers I'm unfamiliar with.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

the lake/stream/river argument only really works for rural populations IMO

1) city people are just less likely to jump into a river
2) they don't generally have them near them, or if they do it's a major one used for transportation of goods/cargo. Like I imagine you could swim on the Mississippi right outside Memphis or New Orleans, but it's probably not too common
3) they're more likely to belong to a gym or something that has a pool
edit: that's also negating like man made aquaducts or lakes, like Miramar Lake in San Diego which is located in the city. My bad

 

[Rational Poster]

You think a pool in someone's backyard accommodates the same number of people as a public pool?

Absolutely not, it limits access even further.

Most blacks didn't have access to a private or public pool most of our history.

Those that had the most access and actually owned private pools were almost entirely white till very recently.

 

[redwire]

Capitalism. You've identified a market niche. Don't complain - go exploit it.

 

[Rational Poster]

this is defeatist horse shit

What percentage of our planet is covered in water ?

Teaching your kids to swim isnt a fucking hobby its a survival lesson like looking both ways before you cross and there isnt a good excuse for having a child that cant swim even if you cant because as a parent its your job to teach the little shit some skills and get past your own ignorance

How do people in the bottom % of earners in the country living in a city in a land locked state learn to swim?


You might see it as an essential skill, but I can assure you most black people probably see it as something rich white people do.