Social Sweden. Update: Came in Ferrari - applied for social benefits

[Rand M Arthur]

I think it is disgusting that a political direction that wants too much in its ideology and are totally blind that Islam and Feminism are not compatible with each other always has a tendency to protect the minority. Hence the Left (V) attracts the most women for its feminist slogan and at the same time is the obvious party for Muslim men. When there is too much talk about Islam and rape in Sweden, the left immediately comes to the conclusion that we have a skewed news coverage in Sweden. This calls for more racism and Sweden should be ashamed to go after people with so much trauma in their luggage.

This left-wing party have not been able to see perspectives in daily life and think about one's own family and whether one has daughters. This pisses me off that the left is involved and helps to whore stamp our daughters in Sweden.

I'm all out of likes, so have a thumbs up instead.

 

[The Catch-Wrestler]

A question to you who read this thread. Is my English legible?

I sometimes have a tendency to write posts that get longer than I had anticipated. If my writing is not good, I would like to shorten it in the future.

Absolutely. Your English is quite exceptional! You have a wonderful grasp of the language, and you have conveyed nuanced details quite admirably.

As to the state of affairs in Sweden:

I abhor what the EU has done to Sweden, but the Swedish government should have never surrendered their country's sovereignty to such an extent!

It is a large-scale social experiment with absolutely no regard for the direct harm forced upon Swedish natives.

Swedish men should form an 'us versus them' platform and demand conditions be changed and task forces created for deporting all immigrants, forcibly, if necessary.

They have clearly only created danger, unrest, and resentment. Have an exception for those that are actively part of the work force.

Where are the men in Sweden??

I am quite fond of Sweden and it's native people. But at this rate they will be outnumbered and summarily destroyed. The former may have already occurred... People there must be mobilized with urgency.

 

[Islam Imamate]

A large minority, if not a majority, of these people in Sweden arrived as illegal immigrants.

Okay so? I don't support that and Sweden needs to kick them out. A big problem in Europe is that the states don't have the stomach to enforce their immigration laws. Germany had the temporary worker program which in theory I support but in practice if your best effort to enforce it is to ask the illegal immigrants to leave nicely then its not going to work in the end, you'll just create an underclass of second class citizens.

I've seen you be highly critical of British and French colonialism. Whilst strangley silent on Persian and Arabian colonialism, no less. To the point where when Bataclan or Rotherham are brought up, you shrug your shoulders and talk about karma. As if pregnant ladies hanging out if windows to avoid being mutilated by a machette or a 12 year old getting gang raped by 30 guys has any bearing on what the political elites in either country do.

Huh? When did I ever say that? If you're going to accuse me of something so nasty I'd hope you have some post in mind.

And Persian and Arabian colonialism? Do you mean the regional proxy war? I mean calling it colonialism is kind of silly but if so then I am very critical of the Sunni Arab coalition that sides with the West. Though they have their share of bastards I think the Shia side is generally the lesser evil, mainly because they have more control over their proxies. Meanwhile the Sunni states hand out guns and money to the most insane jihadist groups that answer to no one and evenly openly talk about turning on their patrons. Its r ecipe for disaster while the Shia approach is better for long term stability. But yes Iran does meddle too much in the affairs of countries like Iraq and Syria and Lebanon but in the case of the first two they wouldn't have been able to if it wasn't for the West radically destabilizing the region.

Well we finally agree. Sadam and Al-Asad are brutal dictators themselves, but at least they took care of their religious minorities.

I think you'll find many are happy to take Shia, Amhadiyyah, Druze, ect. What they are not fine with is looking the otherway to Sunni supremecists.

If Sunnis are being oppressed why shouldn't they also be allowed?

Wow!

We agree on two things! Though it should be said, that it is hypocritical to complain about the Sykes-Picot lines, whilst also being critical of the creation of democraric ethno-states, whilst also being critical of colonial rule. Those were the three options in the mid 20th century, which one would you propose?

When did I say I was critical of democratic ethnostates? As long as they aren't ethnically cleansing or brutally oppressing people then I don't care. The uncomfortable reality that many left of center Europeans don't want to admit is that many of the states in Europe originated as ethnostates; Denmark for the Danes, Sweden for the Swedes, Germany for the Germans and so on. So trying to remold them into this "nation of immigrant" shape doesn't work. I think this is partly why America is better at integrating immigrants, because we have a history of a more civic oriented nationalism.

But no its not hypocritical to be against Sykes-Picot and colonial rule, what an odd thing to say. I support organic states, not states invented by foreigners and imposed upon the population. Don't slice up the region according to the whims of colonizers, try and create organic borders that align with geographic and demographic realities on the ground. A little late for that now I guess, the colonial borders have a lot of inertia behind them by now. But to the extent those borders are rewritten in the current instability it should be along those lines

 

[Perfect Cell]

They work hard...

 

[Mcountry]

I love how it's all the white majority nations that are forced to diverse and it's not your asian or middle eastern countries.

 

[goldennirvana]

I love how it's all the white majority nations that are forced to diverse and it's not your asian or middle eastern countries.

They're not 'forced' to do anything, really. White people embrace it.

 

[Mcountry]

They're not 'forced' to do anything, really. White people embrace it.

Oh it's forced fella.

If someone dare mentions white nationality...you are racist.

While at the same time we don't mention how every other place NOT white...Japan, India, Saudi Arabia...yadda yadda are very STRICT regarding their migration policies. And we don't label them racist.

Like go try and become a Japanese citizen being non Japanese...good luck to ya!

Not racist though!

At some point, Russia is going to be the last place on earth that is going to stay majority white because they have the balls to say fuck no.

 

[goldennirvana]

Oh it's forced fella.

If someone dare mentions white nationality...you are racist.

While at the same time we don't mention how every other place NOT white...Japan, India, Saudi Arabia...yadda yadda are very STRICT regarding their migration policies. And we don't label them racist.

Like go try and become a Japanese citizen being non Japanese...good luck to ya!

Not racist though!

At some point, Russia is going to be the last place on earth that is going to stay majority white because they have the balls to say fuck no.

Of course it's not forced - white people overwhelmingly embrace diversity. They consistently vote for the same parties that allow the migrants to flood in. If white people secretly don't like diversity but do nothing to stop mass immigration because they're scared of being called racist... who's to blame? Bottom line: white people are to blame. No one else.

 

[Mcountry]

Of course it's not forced - white people overwhelmingly embrace diversity. They consistently vote for the same parties that allow the migrants to flood in. If white people secretly don't like diversity but do nothing to stop mass immigration because they're scared of being called racist... who's to blame? Bottom line: white people are to blame. No one else.

I guess. I still say that it's been painted racist to suggest otherwise which is a very strong case to not have any opposition.

Nobody wants to be a racist. But clearly as a white person, the idea of white nationality is considered racist. And yet other races are allowed that voice.

 

[Rand M Arthur]

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Well I don't support ethnostates, in so much as multi ethnic states with similar cultures.

As for the Persian and Arab colonialism, the Mughals invaded and genocided the denisovan decendents across the Himalayas and down the Indus river fkr hundreds of years. The Umayyads genocided Berbers and Europeans around the Mediterrainean during their conquest. One seldom spoken of fact, is that parts of the Iberian penninsula were still under control of the Caliphate as the 'Age of Discovery' started. Europeans searched for new riches to make sure they wete never so weak as to be dominated again. And this was at the tail end of 500 years in which Europe had become invaded by Arabs and Persians, and Moors before them, and Mongols before them. In fact many European bounderies were chosen by arbitary lines too, large parts of Turkey could well be Greece, the same with Armenia, and Romania. There is also the fact that lines did have to be drawn at one point or another. Look at what is happening between Egypt and Sudan right now, regardless of European intervention. Two sovereign nations fighting over land and resources, much like humans have always done.

As for Sunni refugess, sure we'll take the free thinkers and LGBT. But I am skeptical of the boats of 90% young males who almost all seem to bring their sectarian outlook with them. Look at crap that Germany had to put up with when Erdogan decided to break Westphalian principles and call for ethnic riots against the Kurds in Germany a few years back. Britain always has small scale sectarian violence between Indian and Pakistani comunities any time Kashmir is in the news. France recently had Algerians and Chenchens shooting AKs at each other in one of its cities in broad daylight.

And finally, I don't have a message to quote as I only joined the week before last, but I lurked here for a month or so beforehand. I distinctly remember in a thread about Churchill you blew off the plight of the working class just so you could strike a daggar to the elite in London. Nevermind that same working class coming from such priviledged lineage as coal miners, farm labourers, and fish trawlers. I'm guessing you are ethnically Indian?

 

[sweede]

Of course it's not forced - white people overwhelmingly embrace diversity. They consistently vote for the same parties that allow the migrants to flood in. If white people secretly don't like diversity but do nothing to stop mass immigration because they're scared of being called racist... who's to blame? Bottom line: white people are to blame. No one else.

You are really correct and I would like to agree, but it is not that simple, as what you say is not realistic. To begin with, you sound like one of the bitter ones, one who has already given up and thus despises your own.

There are many on this site who talk tough about refugees. Kick them out, execute them, collect them on an uninhabited island out in the Atlantic, etc. Tough opinions and in all my honesty, I also have such thoughts sometimes, but they only come for a moment and then I'm back in reality. At the same time, the same people with these statements admire authoritarian people. How many times have you not heard Putin, Duterte etc so badass? If it is not about posters who come from these countries, I think there are very few of the tough ones on this site who would have wanted such leaders in their own country. With all the knowledge of how they either robbed the population of money or behaves generally crazy, it is easy to dismiss the idea.

With that said, I think your comment lacks humanity. You are very welcome to come up with good ideas that I can take to heart and discuss with my own. Through this thread, I have proven to the rest of you that we do not like to be laughed at by our own neighbors and allies. You have received our attention. Sweden is what it is and we have these people in our country and they will do everything in their power to stay. They have their rules of the game that I have described here. And what is most likely is that in the near future we will give them the same medicine.

For us who have woken up we know the serious situation we are dealing with. We have already begun to mobilize. We are still in the majority, us normal people. We will vote systemically on 3 parties. We have high hopes for these parties. And if they promise half of what they said, I'll be happy. But it is 2 long years to build up our aggressiveness and patience may disappear maybe within a year. What suggestions and tools can you give what we can realistically do in this time to relieve pressure?

For my own part, I do my duty and sabotage and make life harder for the different. They need me, I do not need them. I know this is unethical and contrary to sound human values, but I have experienced and seen so much shit that we are dealing with completely hopeless people who also have laziness in their CV as the biggest asset.

 

[Islam Imamate]

As for the Persian and Arab colonialism, the Mughals invaded and genocided the denisovan decendents across the Himalayas and down the Indus river fkr hundreds of years. The Umayyads genocided Berbers and Europeans around the Mediterrainean during their conquest. One seldom spoken of fact, is that parts of the Iberian penninsula were still under control of the Caliphate as the 'Age of Discovery' started. Europeans searched for new riches to make sure they wete never so weak as to be dominated again. And this was at the tail end of 500 years in which Europe had become invaded by Arabs and Persians, and Moors before them, and Mongols before them. In fact many European bounderies were chosen by arbitary lines too, large parts of Turkey could well be Greece, the same with Armenia, and Romania. There is also the fact that lines did have to be drawn at one point or another. Look at what is happening between Egypt and Sudan right now, regardless of European intervention. Two sovereign nations fighting over land and resources, much like humans have always done.

I figured you might mean that but I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't...

The reason I don't criticize those things is because they are largely irrelevant. The fact is European colonialism ha shaped the modern world and is thus far more relevant to the problems we see across the post-colonial world. The only exception is the Ottoman state which lasted until the early 20th century and therefore is relevant at times and I often mention them.

As for Sunni refugess, sure we'll take the free thinkers and LGBT. But I am skeptical of the boats of 90% young males who almost all seem to bring their sectarian outlook with them. Look at crap that Germany had to put up with when Erdogan decided to break Westphalian principles and call for ethnic riots against the Kurds in Germany a few years back. Britain always has small scale sectarian violence between Indian and Pakistani comunities any time Kashmir is in the news. France recently had Algerians and Chenchens shooting AKs at each other in one of its cities in broad daylight.

You're making the classic mistake of confusing immigrants with refugees. Obviously if you take in refugees you either integrate them or create a system whereby they can be easily sent back. But most of those populations are immigrant populations. Of course you should only allow immigrants in if the juice is worth the squeeze.

And finally, I don't have a message to quote as I only joined the week before last, but I lurked here for a month or so beforehand. I distinctly remember in a thread about Churchill you blew off the plight of the working class just so you could strike a daggar to the elite in London. Nevermind that same working class coming from such priviledged lineage as coal miners, farm labourers, and fish trawlers. I'm guessing you are ethnically Indian?

First off fucking lol at pretending to not be a return ban but okay let's set that aside.

Second you don't have to have joined before to quote me. I don't know what you're talking about so if you can find the quote, we have a search function for just that purpose, I can respond but otherwise its a baseless criticism.

 

[Rand M Arthur]

@Kafir-kun

The Mughal empire formed the foundation of India, from what was dozens of sultanates beforehand. The British wouldn't have had an empire to conquer without Persian imperialism. Lilewise, the scramble for Africa came about at the tail end of European imperialism, which started as a necessity, as Europeans were being butchered and enslaved by invaders. These all follow on from each other. People like to act as though the opium wars were purely profiteering, but the power centre in Europe will have learned about the Mongol imvasion young, and have taken geopolitical steps to ensure the China and her satellites could be weakened so they didn't pose a threat to Europe again.


Considering that in the EU, all you have to do is declare you are gay, and you will never be sent back. Whether you are actually gay or not. This is a well known loophole that is abused regularly.


I take it you get a lot of multi's around here?

I came originally to see news about Izzy vs Whitaker, then discovered the forum one day at work. I know you don't believe me, and I really don't give a fuck, but I've said my piece on the matter. I can't do any more than that.

I admit I may be misremembering, and if I am I genuinely apologize. But I do remember an 'indian' poster being extremely anglophobic, Subhas Chandra Bose style. Especially on the subject of Churchill, which is ironic, because by all accounts Churchill was secretly a Muslim, and the Indian diaspora do quite well for themselves in Britian and weld a lot of political clout. For example, the son-in-law of Indian industrialist NR Murthy is next in line to be Conservative leader. And judging by the shit show that is the left wing over here, he is favourite to be the next PM.

*Edit:
Formating. WTF is happening with the quote button?!

 

[Rand M Arthur]

Delete

 

[Bald1]

At some point, Russia is going to be the last place on earth that is going to stay majority white because they have the balls to say fuck no.

Lol. Nope. Perhaps the V4 or the less desirable Eastern Euro countries. Russia was never exactly a "white" nation.

 

[sweede]

The number of shootings in Sweden is increasing

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/...om-skjutningarna-noll-respekt-for-manniskoliv

The number of shootings in Sweden is increasing, despite major investments in gang violence (Rimfrost). On Thursday, a 22-year-old man was shot to death in Rinkeby in northwest Stockholm. He is part of a network that is part of a bloody gang conflict that claimed ten lives. There is zero respect for human life.

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I have mentioned earlier in the thread that Sweden lacks recent statistics to shed light on the issue of immigration and crime unlike our nordic neighbors.

Our politicians have not approved national investigations as they are afraid of being accused of inciting racism. In addition to the little news we have had and through news from television and news papers, there are really only 2 reliable sources who have openly tackled this problem we have in Sweden. At the same time, BRÅ (Crime Prevention Council) has started 2 investigations as many civilians have made inquiries, and I want to come to that a little later.

Police and investigator Peter Springare who tells from his long experience and writes about crime and shows pictures and names of the criminals on Facebook. He has a large support group with 400,000 members and he has been a big part of the fact that many incomprehensible or those who want to know got to know the dark side of our immigration policy and the ridiculously high percentage of immigrants who commit crimes and are in our prisons. Many see him as a hero when he highlights something that politicians tone down or talk about quietly. This trauma that our politicians believe we Swedes will experience if they had spoken out about reality without taking into account if some others think it is a bad idea. This idea that we Swedes can not handle to hear the truth. But that's exactly what we want. Place all the cards on the table before it is too late. We are already losing Malmö.

Peter Springare

And then we have the national economist Tino Sanandaji who published the book "Mass Challenge", which takes a broad approach to what he describes as immigration-related problems, among them crime and rape. He is just one in the line of fully capable and highly intelligent non-religious Iranians we have in our country. I have told time and time again about how well integrated these great people are. Becoming good friends with them is just a matter of course. To then be able to imagine a successful immigrant and how disgusting it feels when people from his neighboring countries can not behave and shed a bad light on all immigrants with an Arab or Middle Eastern appearance.

Tino Sanandaji

Both have been threatened with death and have had police surveillance. Should it really be in this way that 2 individuals have their days ruined because others threaten them? Where are the rest of us talking quietly about this hell that immigration has brought? Where is the pondus of our leaders who can give a green light and that we can publicly begin to complain and point the finger at the untouchable? Where is our leader who can convey a sense that we are strong together and we are still a majority, that together we can win the battle?

Instead we go on with our silence culture and a few brave people who feel very lonely when accused by the media and the power elite of inciting racism. Can you people who are not Swedes understand that we are many who have changed from left to right?

Finally, I would like to mention that BRÅ will publicly publish 2 titles on immigration and crime at the end of this year. It will be exciting and give a legitimacy to start a crusade against all non-normal people. I welcome it.

Here are links that you can learn more about.

New studies on crime and migration
https://www.bra.se/om-bra/nytt-fran...03-29-nya-studier-om-brott-och-migration.html

Compilation of studies on crime among persons with a foreign and domestic background
https://www.bra.se/om-bra/nytt-fran...rsoner-med-utlandsk-och-inhemsk-bakgrund.html

 

[sweede]

Honestly. I would like feedback if my posts are too long. Please comment.

Waiting for a special mod who will highlighten my last sentence from my long post.

 

[SATW]

The number of shootings in Sweden is increasing

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/...om-skjutningarna-noll-respekt-for-manniskoliv

The number of shootings in Sweden is increasing, despite major investments in gang violence (Rimfrost). On Thursday, a 22-year-old man was shot to death in Rinkeby in northwest Stockholm. He is part of a network that is part of a bloody gang conflict that claimed ten lives. There is zero respect for human life.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have mentioned earlier in the thread that Sweden lacks recent statistics to shed light on the issue of immigration and crime unlike our nordic neighbors.

Our politicians have not approved national investigations as they are afraid of being accused of inciting racism. In addition to the little news we have had and through news from television and news papers, there are really only 2 reliable sources who have openly tackled this problem we have in Sweden. At the same time, BRÅ (Crime Prevention Council) has started 2 investigations as many civilians have made inquiries, and I want to come to that a little later.

Police and investigator Peter Springare who tells from his long experience and writes about crime and shows pictures and names of the criminals on Facebook. He has a large support group with 400,000 members and he has been a big part of the fact that many incomprehensible or those who want to know got to know the dark side of our immigration policy and the ridiculously high percentage of immigrants who commit crimes and are in our prisons. Many see him as a hero when he highlights something that politicians tone down or talk about quietly. This trauma that our politicians believe we Swedes will experience if they had spoken out about reality without taking into account if some others think it is a bad idea. This idea that we Swedes can not handle to hear the truth. But that's exactly what we want. Place all the cards on the table before it is too late. We are already losing Malmö.

Peter Springare

And then we have the national economist Tino Sanandaji who published the book "Mass Challenge", which takes a broad approach to what he describes as immigration-related problems, among them crime and rape. He is just one in the line of fully capable and highly intelligent non-religious Iranians we have in our country. I have told time and time again about how well integrated these great people are. Becoming good friends with them is just a matter of course. To then be able to imagine a successful immigrant and how disgusting it feels when people from his neighboring countries can not behave and shed a bad light on all immigrants with an Arab or Middle Eastern appearance.

Tino Sanandaji

Both have been threatened with death and have had police surveillance. Should it really be in this way that 2 individuals have their days ruined because others threaten them? Where are the rest of us talking quietly about this hell that immigration has brought? Where is the pondus of our leaders who can give a green light and that we can publicly begin to complain and point the finger at the untouchable? Where is our leader who can convey a sense that we are strong together and we are still a majority, that together we can win the battle?

Instead we go on with our silence culture and a few brave people who feel very lonely when accused by the media and the power elite of inciting racism. Can you people who are not Swedes understand that we are many who have changed from left to right?

Finally, I would like to mention that BRÅ will publicly publish 2 titles on immigration and crime at the end of this year. It will be exciting and give a legitimacy to start a crusade against all non-normal people. I welcome it.

Here are links that you can learn more about.

New studies on crime and migration
https://www.bra.se/om-bra/nytt-fran...03-29-nya-studier-om-brott-och-migration.html

Compilation of studies on crime among persons with a foreign and domestic background
https://www.bra.se/om-bra/nytt-fran...rsoner-med-utlandsk-och-inhemsk-bakgrund.html

Imitating the prophet(not Moses or jesus), is normal

 

[sweede]

Imitating the prophet(not Moses or jesus), is normal

Is it true that many Christians see Islam as a infidel version of Christianity?

 

[The ScorpioN]

Honestly. I would like feedback if my posts are too long. Please comment.

Waiting for a special mod who will highlighten my last sentence from my long post.

No, they're great. I believe most people interested in this topic can read a few paragraphs.
Also that Iranisn may not be Arab but Persian. Very different people.