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Social Sweden. Update: Came in Ferrari - applied for social benefits

Continuation from the previous.

I have been invited to various contemporary projects started by grants from the municipality. It can be the Muslims who started a group in Malmö and speak with the people who are in the risk group for fundamental Islam. Or activities for children up to 15 next to Turning Torso with the object of physically activating children instead of being on the street and committing crime.

Everything seems to be good on paper and the municipality in our city does not hesitate before giving clear signs of contributions to salaries and a 1 year with a guarantee to be extended. All to counteract parallel societies.

The problem in my opinion is that we are talking about areas where long experience is required or a corresponding education, instead we have a lot of people who are not qualified and who do not even speak pure Swedish.

Our faithful decision makers believe that just because you speak Arabic, you can work as an interpreter in legal matters, children and family matters via the social etc. Because of this, there are an incredible number of Arabic speaking who want to work as an interpreter but have no other education in the background.

25-30 year old middle eastern men who start associations and courses and on the basis of their criminal background who managed to persuade and get money with the message that ordinary Swedes do not understand and the young people from vulnerable areas cannot respect and laugh at us. Where the criminals have another pondus and the young people respect them as they put it.

All this and much more is about uneducated people in critical areas. How has it been able to proceed?

And I want to say that a 45-minute lecture from an accomplished criminal about finding ISIS returnees and converting them to ordinary Swedes was one of the most painfully bad lectures I have ever been to. I wanted to stand up and scream, amateurs !!
 
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sweede said:
And I want to say that a 45-minute lecture from an accomplished criminal about finding ISIS returnees and converting them to ordinary Swedes was one of the most painfully bad lectures I have ever been to. I wanted to stand up and scream, amateurs !!
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To really understand the mentality of ISIS, or someone representing ISIS, one would have to look into the sort of material that no ordinary person wants to look into, so it's pretty much impossible to have any sort of a reasonable conversation about it.

We are talking about men who rape, kill, torture, who are basically the modern version of SS, and in some regards even worse (as even the SS Nazis had some rules against torture and rape). All of these men knew what they signed up for, as ISIS always marketed itself through videos depicting killing, torture and sexual slavery. They made no false promises about what they stood for.

There's no such a thing as "turning them back into being productive citizens". The only question is how to contain their excessive potential for violence.

Over here, we had a trial about two brothers who likely took part in a massacre of dozens or hundreds of people, a genocide of sorts. Not much you can do about people like that, they're just ticking time bombs. They'll kill somebody at some point, the only questions are "when" and "how many".
 
TheGreatA said:
To really understand the mentality of ISIS, or someone representing ISIS, one would have to look into the sort of material that no ordinary person wants to look into, so it's pretty much impossible to have any sort of a reasonable conversation about it.

We are talking about men who rape, kill, torture, who are basically the modern version of SS, and in some regards even worse (as even the SS Nazis had some rules against torture and rape). All of these men knew what they signed up for, as ISIS always marketed itself through videos depicting killing, torture and sexual slavery. They made no false promises about what they stood for.

There's no such a thing as "turning them back into being productive citizens". The only question is how to contain their excessive potential for violence.

Over here, we had a trial about two brothers who likely took part in a massacre of dozens or hundreds of people, a genocide of sorts. Not much you can do about people like that, they're just ticking time bombs. They'll kill somebody at some point, the only questions are "when" and "how many".
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That might be.

But their whole structure and lack of vocabulary and that they would take care of the extreme and turn them into law-abiding citizens was laughable.

Would I approve a payment? Rather use them on fireworks.
 
TheGreatA said:
To really understand the mentality of ISIS, or someone representing ISIS, one would have to look into the sort of material that no ordinary person wants to look into, so it's pretty much impossible to have any sort of a reasonable conversation about it.

We are talking about men who rape, kill, torture, who are basically the modern version of SS, and in some regards even worse (as even the SS Nazis had some rules against torture and rape). All of these men knew what they signed up for, as ISIS always marketed itself through videos depicting killing, torture and sexual slavery. They made no false promises about what they stood for.

There's no such a thing as "turning them back into being productive citizens". The only question is how to contain their excessive potential for violence.

Over here, we had a trial about two brothers who likely took part in a massacre of dozens or hundreds of people, a genocide of sorts. Not much you can do about people like that, they're just ticking time bombs. They'll kill somebody at some point, the only questions are "when" and "how many".
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No wonder ISIS (and radical islamists in general) do most of their succesful recruiting and 'radicalisation' in prisons. Their bread and butter, basically.
 
tonysmasseuse said:
No wonder ISIS (and radical islamists in general) do most of their succesful recruiting and 'radicalisation' in prisons. Their bread and butter, basically.
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Like most radical movements, they target disenfranchised young men, with criminal tendencies, but the difference for me is, that they never made any qualms about what they were about.

The stories about how these people were just devout Muslims who didn't know what they were getting into, seem absurd and ludicrous considering that ISIS was responsible for a world-wide campaign, marketing itself through high-production value videos, depicting acts of torture, killing and rape. That was literally their calling card. "Join us and you'll get to do this stuff too, in the name of Allah."

This is not some local biker club telling a dumb young punk that they're going to bring "structure and order" into their life, they were literally telling people that if they signed up, they would get to kill and rape as much as they wanted. They were recruiting people from the "potential mass murderer/serial rapist" category.

If we took away the "religious implications" of these people being Muslims, and just saw it for it was, a mad cult like that of Charles Manson's, nobody'd think twice about what ought to be done about them.
 
Do Sweds use the word blasting over bombing because it sounds cleaner or is it just how it translates?

Honest question
 
ryan3434 said:
Do Sweds use the word blasting over bombing because it sounds cleaner or is it just how it translates?

Honest question
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Honest answer.

I could also blow up a building.

Isn't bombing something that comes off the air?
 
TheGreatA said:
They were recruiting people from the "potential mass murderer/serial rapist" category.
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In some macabre way, this sounds pretty likely.

edit. Shouldn't more ethnically ill Swedes have been in ISIS? If they are now inclined to such ill thoughts, the sect should be an obvious target.
 
The ScorpioN said:
@Son of Jamin
What are the projections for the next few years of migrant intake?
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Between 2019-2022, 84,000 asylum seekers and 222,000 relatives and family members, making it 306,000 in just four years.

Not everyone of them will receive citizenship but since Sweden should focus on repatriation instead of immigration, it will only lead to more chaos and erosion of the welfare.
 
Son of Jamin said:
Between 2019-2022, 84,000 asylum seekers and 222,000 relatives and family members, making it 306,000 in just four years.

Not everyone of them will receive citizenship but since Sweden should focus on repatriation instead of immigration, it will only lead to more chaos and erosion of the welfare.
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Hot damn
 
Son of Jamin said:
Between 2019-2022, 84,000 asylum seekers and 222,000 relatives and family members, making it 306,000 in just four years.

Not everyone of them will receive citizenship but since Sweden should focus on repatriation instead of immigration, it will only lead to more chaos and erosion of the welfare.
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What's the endgame here? They must realize that the aging Swedes won't be able to support welfare for the ever increasing vibrant diversity.
 
The ScorpioN said:
What's the endgame here? They must realize that the aging Swedes won't be able to support welfare for the ever increasing vibrant diversity.
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the end game will be civil war like in ex yugo, its literally going down same path
 
Swedes are way too weak and effeminate to do anything about it. Not to mention being underarmed. I bet there's no shortage of AK47s and RPGs being smuggled into the country going into these parallel societies while ethnic swedes have what little weapons they have/had are being made harder to legally obtain.
 
The ScorpioN said:
What's the endgame here? They must realize that the aging Swedes won't be able to support welfare for the ever increasing vibrant diversity.
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A very good question!

Nothing good can come out of this, yet our politicians don’t make any changes, which leads me to two possible scenarios:

1) our politicians are naive and truly believe that archaic customs, inbreeding, prone to violence, love for the caliphate immediately go away when you land at a Swedish airport.

2) they are hellbent on replacing native Swedes and slowly destroying this nation, no matter the cost.

The second option might sound conspiratorial but given the fact that we have information stretching back to the 60’s about immigrants being over represented in crime and a lack of integration, can the politicians still blame their lack of action on still being naive?
 
Cole train said:
the end game will be civil war like in ex yugo, its literally going down same path
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i know zero about this, other than the place names

Was that war ethnic Yugos vs Middle eastern invaders?

Slavs vs Arabs rather than Croats and Serbs?

give me a lesson, please.
 
Ultra O’Dia said:
i know zero about this, other than the place names

Was that war ethnic Yugos vs Middle eastern invaders?

Slavs vs Arabs rather than Croats and Serbs?

give me a lesson, please.
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This one is for @bad mojo
I too would like to hear a basic gestalt, some parallels and what can our dear Swedes expect in the not so distant future.
EDIT: @Cole train covered it
 
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