Social Sweden. Update: Came in Ferrari - applied for social benefits

[tonysmasseuse]

It would appear that you're either incapable or uninterested in honest and logical debate, so unless you're willing to change on that regard I don't think we'll get much further.

Well, nice chatting with ya, it's been a while since i had a good dose of Swedish smugness so thanks for that. You managed to squeeze in the words ignorant and ignorance a handful of times in your post, so i trust you are feeling wonderful about yourself and our exchange has not been completely in vain.

Still rooting for you blind, brainwashed Svenbros to wake up.
And soon, please.

 

[King Joffery]

Malmö, population 330,000

- 43% of other ethnic background
- 42,000 individuals are on social assistance
- 78% of other ethnic backgrounds are on social assistance

I think the interesting figures are percentages of ethnic Swedes on social assistance vs the others

So based on these numbers 23% of other ethnic backgrounds are on social assistance?

I.e. Total number of other ethnic backgrounds = 330K * 0.43 = 141.9K
Total number of those on social assistance = 42K * 0.78 = 32,760
% of other ethnic backgrounds are on social assistance = 32,760/141.9K = ~23%
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And total number of ethnic swedes on social assistance = ~4.9%

Total number of Swedes = 188.1K
Total number of those on social assistance = 42K * 0.22 = 9,240
% of Swedes on social assistance = 9,240/188.1K = ~4.9%
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Looking at the numbers it doesn't seem wise to your economy to import people who claim almost 5 times as much social assistance per capita. And thats just the welfare and ignoring the other issues such as increased crime.

 

[Blowing Dixie]

To cause infighting between scandinavians to make them more easily conquered by finns

I for one welcome our new Finn overlords.

 

[Wingslaught]

Your assumption is not correct, which I thought would be self-evident. Dependencies go much further than that, both in needs and duties. The opposite side would be how it is in very poor countries, where you need to depend on your family (and often not just your closest family) to get by, and they depend on you.

Personally, I think it's far better that way. In industrialized, first world countries especially in America it seems like everything is done to regiment each person or couple into the smallest possible economic unit. Children must move out and be on their own at 18, women are encouraged to be, "strong and powerful" and independent (of men). All these things may sound good in theory, but it weakens the family unit which hurts everyone up and down the spectrum, so it's self-defeating ultimately.

For example, you'll have to support your elderly yourself because no one else does it. They don't have the systems where the elderly have pensions, children get financial support and schooling, etc, etc, from the state. Being born into those dependencies naturally inhibit your ability to choose what to do with your life. This is all very superficial and brief, of course.

In what way? Throwing responsibility for children and older folks on the broader society so one can spend the prime of their lives in self-indulgence just seems overly selfish, and wrong-headed, imo. It's not "a better way", at least not that I can see. It's probably why in America there appears to be an epidemic of Narcissism, or at least these things may be some of the contributing factors.

 

[Wingslaught]

double

 

[Blowing Dixie]

Looking at the numbers it doesn't seem wise to your economy to import people who claim almost 5 times as much social assistance per capita. And thats just the welfare and ignoring the other issues such as increased crime.

Lol that must be the biggest understatement on Sherdog this week. It's suicidal, plain and simple.
I personally view Sweden's politicians as enemies of the people and I would gladly take up arms against them.

 

[sweede]

I think the interesting figures are percentages of ethnic Swedes on social assistance vs the others

So based on these numbers 23% of other ethnic backgrounds are on social assistance?

I.e. Total number of other ethnic backgrounds = 330K * 0.43 = 141.9K
Total number of those on social assistance = 42K * 0.78 = 32,760
% of other ethnic backgrounds are on social assistance = 32,760/141.9K = ~23%
​

And total number of ethnic swedes on social assistance = ~4.9%

Total number of Swedes = 188.1K
Total number of those on social assistance = 42K * 0.22 = 9,240
% of Swedes on social assistance = 9,240/188.1K = ~4.9%
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Looking at the numbers it doesn't seem wise to your economy to import people who claim almost 5 times as much social assistance per capita. And thats just the welfare and ignoring the other issues such as increased crime.

It is a new landscape that we have had to adapt to. Reorganization due to rapid population growth. Things such as misconduct and foreign attitudes have been a part of waking us from an organization that has always worked. In practice, all institutions have had to redesign a new form of tactics and this is not due to a modernization to make it more effective.

Higher pay for the jobs that face reality every day. Work as teachers, police, social administration and hospital staff live daily with threats and stress. Higher salary to make them stay in the profession. Words like whore and I will rape your mother is a common denominator.

The social services and the employment service where I work are also institutions that we have been able to drastically restructure. Before, everyone has had their share in the lead and it has worked. Now we have a shadow culture where we shadow a colleague for a week in an area of the department that is not mine to daily. Everything to make it more efficient and to ensure that people who stay away from the labor market and who are on subsidy should not be in an archive and be forgotten.

Contribution cheating is also a new phenomenon as we have a culture in Sweden to trust people. Every application for social assistance has become tougher for the applicant. The social worker who are responsible for an x number of people had control of the actual application and payment. Since this now takes an incredible amount of time and that the administrator cannot do a full-time job in other areas, we have a special team that handles the paper work.

These accountants have the task of checking all bills and receipts submitted with the application. Previously, it was a requirement to submit an bank account statement for the last 3 months. Now, there are certain requirements to submit each month. It has been shown that applicats have spiced extra numbers on their bills using photo editing programs. Because of this, the controller's task is to check the individual's bills from where they came from. I will give you an example.

A man is summoned to a meeting when cheating has been discovered. In Sweden everyone has a right to a computer in their home. The internet cost is something we also pay for. In Malmö, this sum is SEK 200 per month. Now it turns out that the man has submitted a bill of SEK 500. We checks with the internet provider that says the agreement applies for 10MB at a cost of SEK 199. Apparently, the man has mixed with the bill and submitted his own manufactured instead of the original bill.

The man is confronted with this information and is reminded that when he writes on an application, he assures honor and conscience that the information provided is truthful.

The man who has an interpreter with him begins to become aggressive in his speech and feels insulted. He is then also informed that we do not pay for the intended date and that he can make a new application with the correct documentation. With this, the hell breaks loose when he goes after one of the social workers and the interpreter who holds a wrestling grip on him. Guards are summoned and the police arrive shortly thereafter and arrest him. In all this time, the man has shouted so loudly that people who are going to meetings are terribly upset and afraid.

We are aware of the new that has come to us, and we do everything to counteract bad forces. Unfortunately, politicians are not talking about this and our new reality.

 

[sweede]

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/6jVaK3/barngang-trakasserar-boende-och-hotar-att-valdta

Children gang harasses residents and threatens to rape.

Residents in Grums has problems with a gang that threatens and harasses. The unique thing is that the members of the gang are children in their 8-12 age group.

Tenants in a residential area in Grums no longer dare to let their children play alone outdoors. The reason: A group of children have repeatedly attacked, both verbally and physically, against other children and adults in the area. - They have thrown rocks or beaten with sheet metal pipes and sticks so children started to bleed. The worst thing was that a child got throttle grip that left marks. But it is also about sexual threats: "I will rape you", they say, tell a resident to Home & Rental who was the first to report on the events in Grums.

The residents recently told the situation of their tenant association, which in turn contacted the municipality and the police. Lennart Hynynen is the municipal police and found out this about three weeks ago, when the tenant association invited him and representatives from the municipality to a meeting.

- I have never experienced that such small children do such things. They have poured garbage into the mailbox of people, jerked up flowers and threatened both children and adults sexistically. The residents are afraid, he says to Aftonbladet.

The gang that terrorizes the area consists of children of new arrivals, writes Home & Rental. And according to Lennart, it becomes extra problematic when the parents do not speak Swedish.

- We will meet the parents of these children and try to explain to them what their children are doing. We really hope, for the sake of house peace, that this will end, says Lennart Hynynen.

However, he is clear that it is difficult to do anything from a police point of view. Rather, it is the municipality's social service that is connected.

- The children do not understand what this will have for consequences. The municipality must step in and help them.

Grum's social manager Lotta Österlund Jansson will during the summer invite and try to gather everyone who lives in the area on a common activity day, where one should discuss what can be done to solve the problems.

- We want to discuss openly with them how to behave and how you want it in a residential area, she says to the New Wermland newspaper and adds that after the summer, more security walks will hopefully be carried out in the area.

The tenants that Hem & Hyra talked to agree that the situation cannot continue.

- We want to be able to live here together and then this must be resolved. You really do not want to start thinking in paths like "we and them" but this is how it has become now, they say to Home & Rental.

The incidents are said to have been going on for a year, but according to police Lennart Hynynen, the threats and violence have escalated in recent months.

An update on what has happened in Grums.

In Sweden, I want to say that in many respects we are too good at holding long-term meetings where we have the desire that everyone should be satisfied. This is just not to trample anyone on your toes and the fact that we are so scared of conflict. There I mean that we have a lot to learn from our Danish neighbor because I feel them to be more pragmatic and realistic in matters that are sensitive.

Meetings have now been held with the parents of the children who have suffered and those who have exercised. The new arrivals have not been aware of the extent to which their children have been doing. Where some have spoken in the media and said that they do not recognize the image that the inhabitants of the victims have painted in the media.

In the usual Swedish manner, an action plan has been discussed and after the summer it is planned for security walks and some common activity.

That's exactly what I am and have been tired of for so long. That we are so careful in Sweden and the eternal spoon feeding. The reality is that there are gangs of children aged 8-12 who have lived in Sweden for 1 year. Children who say such coarse things as rape and children who practice violence against other children.

We should have put down the foot and talked to the parents in a sharp way that this is not done in Sweden. The children have learned this form of articulation from their parents as I cannot imagine another source of inspiration for their short stay in Sweden.

I am so tired that our kindness is being exploited to the roughest. Do you treat your own woman in a brutal way because she is kind and friendly as a person?

 

[0verlord]

It's too late for Swedenistan. You can't kill an ideology.

 

[sweede]

It is easy for an outsider to dispose of things like naivety. Replace it with decency instead. As @Bald1 said a while ago, I know deep down that I have gradually changed my approach.

With that I want to add that it is one thing to have a cordial discussion about sensitive things that you have insight into, and the opposite that thrives on this site in the form of people with zero insight and only has information that you have read that is in line with their own perception of reality. And these I mean are purely racists who only see different looks than their own as the driving factor. And there are plenty on this site.

However, the decency that I mentioned has created contradictions in every aspect of our institutions. Contradictions created because we dare not talk about sensitive topics. And being able to make demands without being branded for it. A control system that has gone so far that ordinary honest people in distress have difficulty confirming their ailments because our society has become such that we question everything that has to do with compensation.

We who work in the police, hospital, school, social and labor market institutions have a good insight into our reality and wish that the politicians could dare to talk about it as well. Perhaps we could then counteract the bad forces in a more powerful way. But the longer it takes and as long as we have the spirit of being the best and nicest in the class, people with bad intentions will use our country in the roughest way.

Now I mention Denmark again. I wish that the social democrats in Sweden could follow in the footsteps of our neighbor's party. Being able to talk about things that are sensitive, such as to be proud of our own culture and our way of life, without being called a racist.

 

[DIDM]

What’s the over under on Europe becoming totally Muslim? 10 years?

 

[Project 2501]

Sweden should be renamed to Afrorabia or cuckstonia.

 

[sweede]

Hey, TS, here is a heartfelt message. FUCK YOU from your former brothers in Norway. It is unforgiveable that you still defend the evil that has befallen you. Norway should annex the remaining good parts of your country and the few good people that are left.

Again, fuck you.

Thank you for a consistent meaningless comment. What about reading through the thread before calling for another Norway story?

Reported due to the use of childish language by an adult.

 

[Tranaas]

Thank you for a consistent meaningless comment. What about reading through the thread before calling for another Norway story?

Reported due to the use of childish language by an adult.

My comment highlighted my stance. I simply do not want multiculturalism and diversity, something the original post put as a premise. Guess what, there are many like me. In Sweden you are very good at silencing dissenters.

Diversity is death.

Nationalism is life.

 

[sweede]

My comment highlighted my stance. I simply do not want multiculturalism and diversity, something the original post put as a premise. Guess what, there are many like me. In Sweden you are very good at silencing dissenters.

Diversity is death.

Nationalism is life.

When during the thread did I try to silence critics? I was surprised by your way of formulating yourself, as if you were in a marching and screaming out slogans. This means that you have not read the contents of this thread since the first thing you do is give me a Fuck You, when you basically want to criticize Sweden.

I am puzzled by your lack of situation control.

 

[Tranaas]

When during the thread did I try to silence critics? I was surprised by your way of formulating yourself, as if you were in a marching and screaming out slogans. This means that you have not read the contents of this thread since the first thing you do is give me a Fuck You, when you basically want to criticize Sweden.

I am puzzled by your lack of situation control.

Again, I'm upset with the fundamental premise of the thread, underplaying the problems Sweden faces, and having population replacement as a mandatory policy.

 

[Cole train]

Again, I'm upset with the fundamental premise of the thread, underplaying the problems Sweden faces, and having population replacement as a mandatory policy.

Small off topic

Hows norway doing btw?

We never hear about you guys lol

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Narrow minded Swedes? For blaming the people who are among the trouble, committing the crimes, using tax money, creating bad education environments, etc. You are calling them narrow minded? Maybe you didn't need so many police before all the migrants came, for a reason? Letting in so many third world peolle who have no desire to work or to contribute was a bad idea. To try and spin it, it really makes you look blind.
Thisisfine.meme

lol


Nice.

 

[Tranaas]

Small off topic

Hows norway doing btw?

We never hear about you guys lol

We are 10-15 years behind Sweden when it comes to replacement migration. Most people are too brainwashed or lulled to sleep by luxury to care about the situation. They will have a rude awakening. Swedes on the other hand is an extremely conformistic people. Hence you get these "guys" coming here spouting state propaganda.

 

[Cole train]

We are 10-15 years behind Sweden when it comes to replacement migration. Most people are too brainwashed or lulled to sleep by luxury to care about the situation. They will have a rude awakening. Swedes on the other hand is an extremely conformistic people. Hence you get these "guys" coming here spouting state propaganda.

Thank god my country is so boring that the refugees bounce to you guys (sorry about that)