Stronger and has decent technique vs. Advanced technique with weaker strength - Which usually wins?

[Takes Two To Tango]

If both guys are roughly the same size, but ones stronger and has decent technique and the other is more technically advanced but weaker in strength.

Who usually takes it in your experience or perspective?

I think technique usually wins over power. I'd say 8 out of 10x.

This is basically DDP vs. Khamzat imo.

 

[Luffy]

I don't think that's the case. Chimaev has more technique on the ground... Not on the feet.

DDP is somewhat like JJ... Unorthodox striking and mixes both well enough. DDP seemed always more like a wrestler initially, but his striking is unorthodox, spinning elbows, clinches with knees, spinning kicks... It's unorthodox and with a strong will to do everything to win. Khamzat seems more one tool imo, more heavily dependant on his wrestling and his quick flurry. He goes into a rush and his high likelihood is getting it done within 1 or 2 rounds...

That is why I see that fight as interesting with DDP being like a JJ and Chimaev like a Tom Aspinall, as well. One has a bigger chance if caught quickly, like Chimaev, but if it drags, DDP starts to take over...

 

[AmonTobin]

I honestly think there’s a chance Chimaev is physically stronger in certain grappling positions. At least while gas tanks are at full.

Either way, I’d put more stock in better technique than in power. In grappling, outmaneuvering wins the day. A choke is a choke. Doesn’t matter if DDP is strong like bull.

Another factor here will be speed. I think Chimaev will be notably faster in scrambles, possibly in striking hand speed.

 

[gentel]

Remember the time that no-name 145er Tristan Connelly beat 170er (now 185er) Michel Pereira, who was briefly ranked at MW

 

[Adamant]

Technique usually beats brute strength. But why would anyone act like Khamzat has less technique? His wrestling is better. Maybe lesser of striking?

 

[rollthedice]

Usually the sherdogger

 

[fortheo]

Does the stronger guy also have better cardio? Cardio is king in MMA.

 

[fortheo]

Technique usually beats brute strength. But why would anyone act like Khamzat has less technique? His wrestling is better. Maybe lesser of striking?

I believe TS is saying Khamzat is the more technical, but weaker fighter.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I don't think that's the case. Chimaev has more technique on the ground... Not on the feet.

DDP is somewhat like JJ... Unorthodox striking and mixes both well enough. DDP seemed always more like a wrestler initially, but his striking is unorthodox, spinning elbows, clinches with knees, spinning kicks... It's unorthodox and with a strong will to do everything to win. Khamzat seems more one tool imo, more heavily dependant on his wrestling and his quick flurry. He goes into a rush and his high likelihood is getting it done within 1 or 2 rounds...

That is why I see that fight as interesting with DDP being like a JJ and Chimaev like a Tom Aspinall, as well. One has a bigger chance if caught quickly, like Chimaev, but if it drags, DDP starts to take over...

I think you are overlooking Khamzat striking, but we will see soon enough. I hope.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Technique usually beats brute strength. But why would anyone act like Khamzat has less technique? His wrestling is better. Maybe lesser of striking?

I meant Khamzat is not stronger physically, but that's still up for debate. I'm not too sure, but I think Khamzat wins this.

 

[Harlekin]

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Remember the time that no-name 145er Tristan Connelly beat 170er (now 185er) Michel Pereira, who was briefly ranked at MW

This outcome was entirely based on Demolidor gassing. Which he always does.
But back then he was throwing spinning shit and jumps non stop.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Dricus technique is just to fucking go lmao

 

[RockyLockridge]

I believe TS is saying Khamzat is the more technical, but weaker fighter.

describes dricus vs whittaker/izzy/strickland better if anything

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

If both guys are roughly the same size, but ones stronger and has decent technique and the other is more technically advanced but weaker in strength.

Who usually takes it in your experience or perspective?

I think technique usually wins over power. I'd say 8 out of 10x.

This is basically DDP vs. Khamzat imo.

I don't agree with your take. I think it's more of a clash of styles. Khamzat is a dominant wrestler with developing striking. DDP is a striker with underrated grappling. I think they are both physically strong. I don't think Khamzat will be able to dominate DDP with his wrestling. If I am wrong, Khamzat wins this fight. I expect DDP to be able to keep it standing and stop Khamzat late in round 3 or in round 4. I love these type of fights where I'm not sure how it plays out.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I don't agree with your take. I think it's more of a clash of styles. Khamzat is a dominant wrestler with developing striking. DDP is a striker with underrated grappling. I think they are both physically strong. I don't think Khamzat will be able to dominate DDP with his wrestling. If I am wrong, Khamzat wins this fight. I expect DDP to be able to keep it standing and stop Khamzat late in round 3 or in round 4. I love these type of fights where I'm not sure how it plays out.

Very good points.

 

[Spath]

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Remember the time that no-name 145er Tristan Connelly beat 170er (now 185er) Michel Pereira, who was briefly ranked at MW

That has a lot more to do with Pereira f-king around and focusing on backflips and cartwheels than fighting. So fight iq > no fight iq. Connelly took the fight as serious as a man could and rightfully got the W.

 

[Dimbis]

Does the stronger guy also have better cardio? Cardio is king in MMA.

Cardio is king in certain aspects. Holloway’s cardio didn’t do much for him in his fight with Topuria. This is just the most recent example that comes to mind.

 

[bng]

usually better fighter wins
if it comes to decision then the one who is having Dana White's privileges card

 

[188912345]

describes dricus vs whittaker/izzy/strickland better if anything

In the Izzy/Strickland fights, the takedown threat in Dricus favor played a big part in the efficiency of his striking.

You can throw more high kicks, overreach on punches, etc vs someone who will not try to take you down.

Vs Whittaker, he successfully used his physicality to win the grappling exchanges.

The questions would be if he can use his physicality to win grappling/wrestling exchanges vs Khamzat, and how he will adapt his striking vs a very big takedown threat.

 

[fortheo]

Cardio is king in certain aspects. Holloway’s cardio didn’t do much for him in his fight with Topuria. This is just the most recent example that comes to mind.

Obviously cardio doesn't matter when you get knocked out or finished. No single attribute is infallible.