Strategy for street fights? Swarmers?

[AshiharaFan]

If a guy is trying to swarm you can try and negate his swarming or stand your ground and fight him.

So, option A would involve distance control with footwork and straight punches, or your best long range weapons.

Option B would revolve around crowding the other guys punches, rolling with shots, finding room to punch, wrestling, cutting angles with pivots, or dominating the inside with short hooks.

What you do exactly will depend. If you don't have room for option A then you have to do option B. If a guy runs at you like an wild animal then you might have to do option B until he calms down, or maybe you just hit him on the way in, stick and move style, if it's the obvious thing to do at the time.

A good way to look at it is the funnel of chaos analogy. There's always chaos in battle. You can only limit it so much. The rest should be funneled into your opponent. That's when you have complete control... swarming works off this concept.

Option B works just fine if you are certain that it's a one-on-one. If you even slightly suspect that there is a chance that you can get ganged up on then avoid Option B at all costs if you can. A modified Option A is in order.

 

[Samuel Reynoso]

I was talking options you could switch between moment to moment, and if you fight 2 guys at once then you have to fight 2 guys at once. First you punch the first guy, then you punch the second guy...1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st.... walk away.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

a stiff jab is a good way to put a stop to that and lead into the other stuff mentioned

 

[Pugilistic]

Kind of, I mean if someone comes up to me and wants to fight to prove they can beat me in a fight, like an honor thing, I want to know the easiest way to fight a "street fighter". I'd imagine teeps and clinches would work best. Not really to show off or be cool, I think if I know they're not using a weapon or anything I just have this thing where I can't say no. Feel like the other person deserves to be able to prove himself even if he's drunk or w/e.

I hope it's because you're young, or you should be posting in the how trashy are you thread in Mayberry.

1. Grow up. Don't get into street fights because some drunk idiot insulted your "honor."
2. Go to a real gym and learn how to fight from real fighters.

 

[209 Life]

I hope you know track, black belt dont mean nothing when they pull a pistol

 

[jcandoitbig]

if it's one on one street fight, i've always had success with grappling. people don't know shit when it comes to that, whereas they generally have an idea of punching.

if it's self defense, whip out that knife and know how to use it

 

[jcandoitbig]

i can't tell you how many drunk asshole i had to deal with in college, and honestly it's wrestling/bjj>everything.

if a bunch of cholos try to jump you, make sure you're cardio is on point. i've had one knife pulled on me in college when 3 mexicans tried to jack me, and I just ran. good thing (at the time) i ran a sub 12 100 meter and they gave up within 5 seconds

 

[fluffball]

I've neverb had a "serious" street fight (aka not some drunken friend's friend losing at beer pong) not end with a weapon. I have quite a large scar on my face as one of those results.

If you're planning on getting in a lot of street fights, you need to get a concealed carry permit. Also you're going to die sooner or later.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Kind of, I mean if someone comes up to me and wants to fight to prove they can beat me in a fight, like an honor thing, I want to know the easiest way to fight a "street fighter". I'd imagine teeps and clinches would work best. Not really to show off or be cool, I think if I know they're not using a weapon or anything I just have this thing where I can't say no. Feel like the other person deserves to be able to prove himself even if he's drunk or w/e.

There's no such thing as honour In a street fight and anybody that thinks there is are fooling themselves . If someone wants to fight you get in 1st and hard before they have a chance to realise there actually in a fight.

 

[Prime Yossarian]

This thread made me re-watch a street vid where a kid gets picked on by two guys. He knocks one of the guys out, then the other bum rushes him and he meets him with a double leg and slams him into the concrete.

In the comments one of the posters put a link to the aggressors facebook. Checked it out and looks like the guy ran away from home right after the vid was posted 2 years ago and hasnt been seen since.

Pretty weird.

 

[VulgarSnaps]

I handled a few pairs as a young man, anything else is punch/disable/sprint.

A pair, if you can take it, go ugly on one target and deal with the punishment. Harm that motherfucker. Try taking an eye, crushing a throat, but eliminate and move on.

I have seen some guys in my youth box up like three assholes, but boxer VS 3 random jerkoffs who wings punches in kinda funny. It's like the first round of "punch out" but three of em, it's still easy.

I've had five on me, nothing could be done. Swear it lasted hours, knew attacking back would make it worse. It became a game at a point.

 

[Voodoo Dahl]

Be trained, comfortable, patient, and decisive. Do not over extend.

As always, position, before submission. If the best position is far away, run... avoid the ground and clinch, especially when in hostile company. Like classic MMA, fight how it is safest and more comfortable, for you. Have an advantage, or gain one. Avoid going for air chokes, or pain submissions.

Kicks can absolutely be useful, but I would stick to low kicks. A hard round to the knee when dodging an overextended haymaker, is not a horrible idea.



Most of the fights in the video were pretty tame brawls. Not to say the fights weren't dangerous. I avoided many many fights like that as an obnoxious loud mouthed youth... because I didn't play into the macho fight game.

I have called and stalled for police, bouncers, etc.

Playing the, who's a bigger gorilla, game is for low iq types. These fights, I don't even care to discuss... if you play that game, I don't care if you win or lose. If you can avoid potential injury just by "losing face", do it. If you cannot, then be controlled and violent.

 

[bobthebuilder]

So I've recently found some street fights on Youtube and noticed that most street fights involve a lot of swarming, often out of nowhere, here is a good compilation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKNQsswAO8Y
Realistically, how could one best fight against this? I could see kicks dismantling most of these, but they could be risky if they come in fast. Aren't wide, swarming hooks, with a lot of foot movement a weakness against Muay Thai?

basic boxing, and hitting hard.

 

[Codger]

Check out the Geoff Thompson books

 

[Voodoo Dahl]

I'm only worried about being jumped, and mainly by someone with weapons...

Intelligence is the number one strategy. And I have had guns pulled on me, been in the middle of club brawls, cornered by tough guys in locker rooms, robbed, and more confrontations than worth even saying.

Give them what they want, I want to be healthy, they almost always just want to feel in charge. When the shit goes down and there is no avoiding, you should be focused and violent, and then get the fuck out. Don't put yourself in bad situations.

If you are a cop or security guard, you should understand how to handle the situation, have the tools and preparation.

I have been rushed and while talking the person down, as they wildly swung on and tackled me, I framed on their neck/ collarbone, while holding them back in butterfly guard. Till eventually someone pulled the drunk fuck off. Not a single blow was landed, just moronic shit talk. I never even got off the couch.

 

[TheDarkEmperor]

In a street fight you want it done as quick as possible. So that means no kicks, unless it's to the groin. Clinch work is out too, why would you want to bring an opponent who could have a knife in close range?
Best bet is to run.

Not really. A side kick to the leg, body, or head is a great street fight technique. It keeps your torso and head away from harm, be it from a fist, pen, knife, bat, etc.. One clean kick to the knee of an opponent is enough to stop an attacker of any size, with no chance of getting up.

 

[jefferz]

Not really. A side kick to the leg, body, or head is a great street fight technique. It keeps your torso and head away from harm, be it from a fist, pen, knife, bat, etc.. One clean kick to the knee of an opponent is enough to stop an attacker of any size, with no chance of getting up.

And a good way to get knocked off balance and end up on the ground and stomped. Seriously, this is a street fight, there's no ref to step in when someone gets dirty. Anything that could potentially put you on your ass is a bad idea.

 

[YamaTsukiBoy]

And a good way to get knocked off balance and end up on the ground and stomped. Seriously, this is a street fight, there's no ref to step in when someone gets dirty. Anything that could potentially put you on your ass is a bad idea.

Actually, side kicks to the knee are pretty damn safe as far as kicks go. With good technique, you can really jam movement and keep the swarmers off of you. But in regards to kicking the body and the head, you're right. No need to go any higher with it at all.

 

[Samuel Reynoso]

Actually, side kicks to the knee are pretty damn safe as far as kicks go. With good technique, you can really jam movement and keep the swarmers off of you. But in regards to kicking the body and the head, you're right. No need to go any higher with it at all.

Depends on who's sidekick it is. That Sage Northcutt kid can find the body solid and push a guy back.

 

[Codger]

Your strategy should be to avoid the fight entirely if possible and if it's not then to hit them hard and fast and repeatedly before they hit you. If all that fails then you need to avoid their sucker punch and then weather the first 10 second storm. If after all that you're still standing, your boxing/MT will almost certain win you the fight. The hard bit is getting past the first 10 seconds.

The "just run away" answer is too simplistic as it assume you know that something is worth running away from. In the video, most of them are challenge fights and they can be avoided by various non-violent techniques including removing yourself from the scene. The really dangerous ones are the situations where they don't give you any warning but sucker you in, and running is no good if you've not seen it coming in the first place. So it all starts with awareness and handling the early stages.