Economy stonks v22, infrastonksture

[Gas121]

All good points. I will say that thus far the market has shown an inability to rotate out of the big names but here today they are showing signs.

Nvda and amd took a good crack over last week and today especially. I knew both would and shorted them several times but always got out too early.

Tesla, king of all bubbles got wacked. Even the megas like Aapl and google got hit. Obviously there's a long way to go but its a start. I'm close to 50% cash atm and many of my stocks are already pulverized. Ill do some trading with my cash but I'm not going long until something big happens

The big names need to come down at some point fairly heavily. NVDA, AAPL, MSFT, and all that are great companies but the valuations are kinda absurd. I think investors and MM's are hedging in these stocks, looking for somewhere to dump their money without taking a huge hit.

Its difficult to play options at the moment in a kangeroo market. I will be buying some LEAP's though, premium kinda sucks right now though.

Cash is king for now. I have around 20%. I will likely be buying stocks to hedge my portfolio though. I think we will have a decent correction, but I do not see a crash happening at this point. Its more fear driven at the moment.

 

[kahiljabroni]

The big names need to come down at some point fairly heavily. NVDA, AAPL, MSFT, and all that are great companies but the valuations are kinda absurd. I think investors and MM's are hedging in these stocks, looking for somewhere to dump their money without taking a huge hit.

Its difficult to play options at the moment in a kangeroo market. I will be buying some LEAP's though, premium kinda sucks right now though.

Cash is king for now. I have around 20%. I will likely be buying stocks to hedge my portfolio though. I think we will have a decent correction, but I do not see a crash happening at this point. Its more fear driven at the moment.

The bigs names have a long ways to go. Nvda should hit 200 at some point. There is definitely a ton of fear and the market has been seeking safety in numbers. If the big dogs take a big hit the fear would really set in.

Idk what 2022 will bring but I know that 25% plus index performance is not sustainable. Most of our gdp growth has come in the form of inflation. Most of the new retail traders will not come back imo. Their stimmys have been spent....their disposable incomes have shrunk due to inflation.

So can the megas/indexes fall without crushing everything else exponentially further? I doubt it but we'll see.

 

[Revolver]

shit day but was able to get a 20% on a swing I was playing. STRN pumped AH. Have QQQ puts that I'm holding as well.

 

[Gas121]

The bigs names have a long ways to go. Nvda should hit 200 at some point. There is definitely a ton of fear and the market has been seeking safety in numbers. If the big dogs take a big hit the fear would really set in.

Idk what 2022 will bring but I know that 25% plus index performance is not sustainable. Most of our gdp growth has come in the form of inflation. Most of the new retail traders will not come back imo. Their stimmys have been spent....their disposable incomes have shrunk due to inflation.

So can the megas/indexes fall without crushing everything else exponentially further? I doubt it but we'll see.

Yeah that's my worry if the big hitters sell off will the small and mid caps continue to get hammered. Would suck.

Oh man, your right. I remember record numbers of retail investors since last year. They probably bought mostly MEME stocks and ones recommended by YT'ers.. might spook them. This bull market has created a shit ton of baggies. I know a few people that begun investing not long ago and they want to sell out already after seeing blood red. It's not for the faint hearted I guess lol.

 

[kahiljabroni]

Yeah that's my worry if the big hitters sell off will the small and mid caps continue to get hammered. Would suck.

Oh man, your right. I remember record numbers of retail investors since last year. They probably bought mostly MEME stocks and ones recommended by YT'ers.. might spook them. This bull market has created a shit ton of baggies. I know a few people that begun investing not long ago and they want to sell out already after seeing blood red. It's not for the faint hearted I guess lol.

Yup..I work with a guy who has been paying down his mortgage as fast as possible for a decade in lieu of investing. Few months ago he refinanced to a 30 so he could put his equity in the market. He went heavy in a bunch crypto and individual stocks like rivian at the top.

Gonna be many horror stories out there...im trying not to be one

 

[HOLA]

Yeah that's my worry if the big hitters sell off will the small and mid caps continue to get hammered. Would suck.

Oh man, your right. I remember record numbers of retail investors since last year. They probably bought mostly MEME stocks and ones recommended by YT'ers.. might spook them. This bull market has created a shit ton of baggies. I know a few people that begun investing not long ago and they want to sell out already after seeing blood red. It's not for the faint hearted I guess lol.

Shortly after I first started investing in 07 the first cracks of what would become the Great Recession started showing up. It was a hell of a welcome.

Sherdog back then was all about Peter Schiff, Ron Paul and investing in precious metals, lol. People were too scared to invest in GLD or SLV (they had conspiracy theories that is was all some scam) so they ended up buying physical coins with huge markups on their price. If they actually held until the present they would have made a bit, but would have done far, far better if they just bought an S&P 500 index fund.

 

[kahiljabroni]

Shortly after I first started investing in 07 the first cracks of what would become the Great Recession started showing up. It was a hell of a welcome.

Sherdog back then was all about Peter Schiff, Ron Paul and investing in precious metals, lol. People were too scared to invest in GLD or SLV (they had conspiracy theories that is was all some scam) so they ended up buying physical coins with huge markups on their price. If they actually held until the present they would have made a bit, but would have done far, far better if they just bought an S&P 500 index fund.

You getting any similar vibes with today's market?

 

[rob mafia]

I mean probably rightfully spooked no? We're about to begin a phase of tapering and rates rising. Being long now is fighting the fed

lolwut?

it's not like the rates are being raised to 5% or that the raising rates are a surprise. rates are still going to be super fucking low.

 

[Revolver]

Lol. There’s money to be made in every different market. If you’re not adapting you’re missing out.

 

[Revolver]

Qqq puts I overnighted should pay big at open.

 

[kahiljabroni]

lolwut?

it's not like the rates are being raised to 5% or that the raising rates are a surprise. rates are still going to be super fucking low.

Not saying the rates are historically high. Just saying that we're going from a period where we introduced 30% more money into the system....added millions more traders into the game...flush with cash and nowhere to spend it. To a very different environment. Valuations are being reset

 

[kahiljabroni]

Lol. There’s money to be made in every different market. If you’re not adapting you’re missing out.

I've got spy puts. Microsoft puts....short zoom, docn, and affirm for a while not.

It helps stem the losses in longs

 

[rob mafia]

Not saying the rates are historically high. Just saying that we're going from a period where we introduced 30% more money into the system....added millions more traders into the game...flush with cash and nowhere to spend it. To a very different environment. Valuations are being reset

...you said being long is fighting the fed.

 

[Revolver]

Qqq puts I overnighted should pay big at open.

Over 100%

 

[rob mafia]

solar stocks seem to be pricing in the sun exploding next month.


and i closed my short calls and sold achr since it was green. was just planning on theta ganging it, but this market is a disaster of retards so i'll just take the money.

 

[HOLA]

You getting any similar vibes with today's market?

Not so much. The red flags seemed far more obvious back then, and the potential for destruction far greater. You had guys like Buffett writing about how derivatives were "financial weapons of mass destruction" back in like 01 or 02. Investor losses were already snowballing in that area 06-07, as the housing market turned south. By the time Bear Stearns got KO'd, the market hadn't even really fallen all that much, but it seemed pretty clear the shit was really going to hit the fan now. And it did.

 

[kahiljabroni]

...you said being long is fighting the fed.

Well if u think the feds actions caused the market to soar ...you'd have to think the fed reversing those policies would have a negative effect.

I think historically tapers and rates increasing line up with the beginning of bear markets but I'm working and can't provide evidence

 

[Revolver]

15% on nvda puts. Probably done for the day unless I see something good.

 

[brackis1]

lol fuck I had shorted some ADGI in the 40s for a flip and it just crashed without me today.

 

[Rob Battisti]

So everyone shorting the market?