Stipe is a product of circumstances and good timing

[method115]

40 year old back surgery DC who retired immediately after their trilogy

and yet only Jones and Stipe have beaten DC.

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

and yet only Jones and Stipe have beaten DC.

Jones beat a peaking DC.

Stipe beat a declining DC.

 

[Streeter]

Tsdoesny know how to read resumes

 

[method115]

Jones beat a peaking DC.

Stipe beat a declining DC.

Declining based on what? Some random on a forum making the claim? If he would have won both Stipe fights and retired you wouldn't even be saying that.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

One could say that about any fighter, really

 

[Oldman1]

Khabibs top tier victories were JG, Doostin & Conor

How is Khabib relevant in this thread?

 

[SirRealKiller]

People always forget Stipe didn't even get in to MMA until he was 28 already and was almost 30 when he debuted in the UFC.

Beat:
Hunt
Werdrum
Ovreem
JDS
Ngannou
Cormier x2

Losses:
Ngannou
JDS
Cormier
Struve



I mean, he beat literally all of the top guys in the UFC in his era. I'm not sure how you can dispute he's not one of the GOATs.

 

[rjmbrd]

Yeah but for Jon's legacy this fight makes sense, beating the guy who is apparently the UFC's best ever HW does nothing but build Jon's legend in the sport.

Not when the person has been retired for years. He hasn't won a fight in a dog's life, Stipe is completely irrelevant in the division.

 

[HHJ]

Yeah but for Jon's legacy this fight makes sense, beating the guy who is apparently the UFC's best ever HW does nothing but build Jon's legend in the sport.

Gimme a break.

Maybe he can beat Randy Couture next, yknow, cos Randy had 5 titles in 2 diff weight classes. Beating him def does nothing but build Jon's legend in the sport

 

[RonDante]

I fuckin hate Jones but there is zero wrong with his resume

Multiple fighters literally 20 pounds smaller than him, gifted decisions, fighters extremely past their prime

 

[HHJ]

Multiple fighters literally 20 pounds smaller than him, gifted decisions, fighters extremely past their prime

That sounds like the weeping of women. Other than Reyes 123 thats legit.

 

[RonDante]

That sounds like the weeping of women. Other than Reyes 123 thats legit.

It’s all completely true

 

[Fight Professor]

Fedor is the goat HW.

But if you're just talking about UFC, then yeah it's Stipe. I've never been a big fan of his, but you have to hand it to him for beating DC twice, Werdum, Ngannou, Alistair, and JDS. That's a hell of a run.

BUT... I will say that the HW division in the ufc is still weak and always has been. So being the goat UFC HW isn't really saying much. We've never had anyone dominate the division like Aldo, GSP, or Anderson did to theirs.

There is a very high chance of stoppage in the HW division for power and cardio reasons. Therefore, it is more difficult to stay at the top.

 

[Mammothman]

I really can't stand that dork Miocic but he was really good.

 

[CieloLuce]

Nah. Stipe career is very good. And being the best HW in the UFC was just him taking out the ppl in front of him. It's not his fault Overeem, JDS, and DC got old.

 

[Marko Polo]

Yeah but for Jon's legacy this fight makes sense, beating the guy who is apparently the UFC's best ever HW does nothing but build Jon's legend in the sport.

To who though? Sick of you pieces of shit trying to gas light the fans. No one believes that bull

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

Declining based on what? Some random on a forum making the claim? If he would have won both Stipe fights and retired you wouldn't even be saying that.

Coming off back surgery and retiring immediately after fighting Stupe and 41 years old not enough for you?

 

[Fedorgasm]

There is a very high chance of stoppage in the HW division for power and cardio reasons. Therefore, it is more difficult to stay at the top.

Yup. Which makes Fedor's run all the more impressive.

 

[Goutfather]

Fedor is the goat HW.

But if you're just talking about UFC, then yeah it's Stipe. I've never been a big fan of his, but you have to hand it to him for beating DC twice, Werdum, Ngannou, Alistair, and JDS. That's a hell of a run.

BUT... I will say that the HW division in the ufc is still weak and always has been. So being the goat UFC HW isn't really saying much. We've never had anyone dominate the division like Aldo, GSP, or Anderson did to theirs.

“weak” compared to what? the ufc’s hw division is still the best hw division in the world, and it certainly was when stipe came up. in fact, it was stacked because all the top hws from strikeforce were active. everyone stipe beat during his title reign would have been champ in any other org. almost all of them were champions in the ufc, or at least strikeforce.

 

[HHJ]

Nah. Stipe career is very good. And being the best HW in the UFC was just him taking out the ppl in front of him. It's not his fault Overeem, JDS, and DC got old.

DC was a formidable opponent to the very end