Stipe has no claim to "goat"

[Tweak896]

Fedor won about 15 straight after winning the belt, I don't really understand why the belt wasn't on the line in most of those matches.

Stipes longest UFC win streak was 6.

I'm just saying officially defended the belt. Fedor was the first fighter I saw live so all respect to him. But all those matches in pride aren't equivalent to title defenses. It should've been more but that's just what records have it as.

 

[RockyLockridge]

When was that a conversation?
Nice try putting fat slob DC on there...Stipe got KOed in the first fight..DC scratched and clawed like a hooker...worst eye pokes ever...then got folded like a cheap plastic chair in the 2nd fight...bullied and DROPPED in the 3rd.

Im glad some one called out the pokes. It was dirty and intentional. No one will ever convince me that it is not.

 

[MeatGrinder]

Anderson
DC
Jones
Gsp
Aldo
Khabib
Holloway
Penn


All have claims to be goat they were long reigning dominant champs. Stipe was not a long reigning champ and his record is full of green fighters or out of prime fighters like Werdum. He got beat by JDS and knocked out by DC moving up to HW.


Stipe is not at the same level as those fighters above. I would put nganu above stipe and Cain above him too

When tf was BJ Penn anywhere near the rest? He was always very hot and cold, never consistently a juggernaut. Come on.

 

[Gilday]

MMA GOAT? Nah.
He is without question the greatest ever UFC HW though.

 

[Psychojoe86]

Anderson
DC
Jones
Gsp
Aldo
Khabib
Holloway
Penn


All have claims to be goat they were long reigning dominant champs. Stipe was not a long reigning champ and his record is full of green fighters or out of prime fighters like Werdum. He got beat by JDS and knocked out by DC moving up to HW.


Stipe is not at the same level as those fighters above. I would put nganu above stipe and Cain above him too

Khabib, Penn, holloway all had 3 defenses during their initial title reigns, same as stipe lol. Not exactly a major difference in long reigning champs lol

 

[mahavishnunj]

Anderson
DC
Jones
Gsp
Aldo
Khabib
Holloway
Penn


All have claims to be goat they were long reigning dominant champs. Stipe was not a long reigning champ and his record is full of green fighters or out of prime fighters like Werdum. He got beat by JDS and knocked out by DC moving up to HW.


Stipe is not at the same level as those fighters above. I would put nganu above stipe and Cain above him too

You really thought yet another GOAT thread was needed?

 

[kenetics]

As short as Stipe was champ, he was still the longest reigning at HW with 3 defenses. Actually even Fedor only had 4 defenses in Pride.

Pride HW division was far superior than the UFC. pride first division they built was the HW division.

 

[Barteh]

Anderson
DC
Jones
Gsp
Aldo
Khabib
Holloway
Penn


All have claims to be goat they were long reigning dominant champs. Stipe was not a long reigning champ and his record is full of green fighters or out of prime fighters like Werdum. He got beat by JDS and knocked out by DC moving up to HW.


Stipe is not at the same level as those fighters above. I would put nganu above stipe and Cain above him too

Khabib wasn't a long reigning dominant champ. He has like what, 3 or 4 top 5 wins in his entire career?

 

[kenetics]

Khabib, Penn, holloway all had 3 defenses during their initial title reigns, same as stipe lol. Not exactly a major difference in long reigning champs lol

To be fair though, the worst HW can one shot all 3 of them lol. So I'll give it to stipe.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Pride HW division was far superior than the UFC. pride first division they built was the HW division.

Pride had fixed fights

 

[kenetics]

Pride had fixed fights

And?

 

[benebox]

The only claim he has is as the UFC HW GOAT. Fedor is the actual HW GOAT though.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Definitely UFC HW GOAT


Which isn't saying a lot.

 

[Frank Kain]

There is no goat, no one has any claim for something that doesn’t exist

The correct answer

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

DC x2
Francis
JDS
Mark Hunt
Arlovski
Overeem
Werdum
Roy Nelson
Gabriel Gonzaga

He has a very good resume.

Lol you just my ts claim even better for him! Green or past their prime.

 

[VinceArch]

Lol you just my ts claim even better for him! Green or past their prime.

Excuses, excuses. Thought you were better than that.

 

[Leon Edwards]

MMA GOAT? Nah.
He is without question the greatest ever UFC HW though.

DC knocked him out if DC would have stayed at HW during his prime he would have cleaned the division

 

[HeffDoesWant]

I honestly don't think I've ever heard or seen someone say that.

 

[Mind Mine]

Do people ever call him an all-time GOAT, though? I've only ever heard him referred to as the UFC HW GOAT, which he absolutely is.



Also, this is about as transparent as you can possibly be in your ridiculous criticism. If he fights someone young, they're green. If he fights a veteran, they're out of their prime. Sorry he never fought someone exactly 29 years and 271 days old, or whatever unrealistic number you have in your head for "prime" (if you've even got one).

BWAHAHAHA good catch

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Anderson
DC
Jones
Gsp
Aldo
Khabib
Holloway
Penn


All have claims to be goat they were long reigning dominant champs. Stipe was not a long reigning champ and his record is full of green fighters or out of prime fighters like Werdum. He got beat by JDS and knocked out by DC moving up to HW.


Stipe is not at the same level as those fighters above. I would put nganu above stipe and Cain above him too.

Heavyweight does not have a true goat. No it is not Fedor, Fedor has a padded record and ducked big fights and never fought some of the best HWs. DC would beat Fedor easily.

Skill wise Jones and DC would be some of the best HWs.

HW goat numb skull.