Social Steven crowder demonetized

[esotamoc]

He wasn’t silenced. His videos are still up, and he can still post more. They took his ads away because he sells shirts that call people gay slurs. He can get his revenue back apparently.

I think, at some point, the online right wing community needs to grow up a lot. It is not irrelevant to ask why the right wing online so commonly resorts to childish “edgelord” nonsense. Selling shirts calling people slurs on YouTube is not political speech, it’s begging for them to step in so you can whine about it. I don’t feel sorry for these provocateurs who get what they are looking for.

It seems to be the same all over the Internet. They push the envelope until they get in trouble and then they cry foul. It happens on this forum all the time. It does not come across as admirable to me, it comes across as pathetic. Adults need to behave like adults. But there seems to be a lot of people on the Internet who are stuck in adolescence.



That’s obnoxious and people shouldn’t do it.



The NBA can call their own employees whatever titles they want. Company leadership should take the views of their employees into consideration. In that way, it’s actually proving that the NBA is a great employer. Many companies do not care about their employees at all, but the NBA does. We don’t have to agree with the NBA, we are not one of their employees.

I remember when not so long ago it was the left that were the edgelords when the conservative right held all the cultural power. i was against puratanical censorship then and i am against it now.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

And they aren't "conservatives" they are wing nuts. No one ever tried taking down the Wall Street Journal.

From the people the people that abolished the Fairness Doctrine (rightly so imo).........

 

[Hard To Tell]

Here is the lispy queer himself quite clearly calling for violence and harrasment against those he disagrees with



But no ban, no reprimand, no censorship, nothing. This is fine. But woe betide anyone who tells jokes the establishment don't approve of.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Anyone with a shred of a decency and honesty can see harassment when it's in front of them. For a professional to be talking about another man's sexuality and race like that is disgusting. You're not being honest. Or you lack basic decency. Which is it ?

Oh wow, this is rich.

'Basic decency.'

'Anyone with honesty can see this is harassment.'

He also has 'Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist' as his twitter profile.

He claims to be a journalist, and is demanding Crowder to be thrown off a media platform because his feelings are hurt, and destroys his arguments.


As far as Crowder goes, he hasn't called Maza anything Maza hasn't referred to himself as.

If you have ever seen ANY of his videos you'd know Crowder does impressions of everyone he mocks. This isn't uncommon in political comedy. Maza is latino, gay, overly effeminate, and speaks with a lisp. Should Crowder give Maza special treatment, by NOT mocking him?

 

[Witchhunt]

This isn't even about Steven Crowder, it's about the coporate media using their money and influence to shut down competition, take back control of the market and tighten their strangle hold on their monoply and the information people have access to. So youtube, along with every other social media platform, are now in full censorship mode. Ordinary people are more and more rejecting the bullshit fed to them by the mainstream establishment, they can see right throught it, which has led to the rise in popularity of individual content creators. This was not never going to be tolerated for much longer, especially in light of how the working classes have been voting recently, as this whole movement has now spread to politics.

So the plan is to ensure that social media ends up being no different to the news channels, Hollywood, late night talks shows etc, that some people still consume. Where it's the same few people, parroting the same few views and narratives, in the hope that with no dissent or opposing opinions allowed, it will eventually sink in and people will stop thinking for themselves.

 

[bowened]

I remember when not so long ago it was the left that were the edgelords when the conservative right held all the cultural power. i was against puratanical censorship then and i am against it now.

EXACTLY!

This whole thing reminds me of the right wing Christian mothers who would try to get Howard Stern thrown off the radio back in the 80s and 90s—then patting themselves on the back when he would get a big fine from the FCC.

There’s a new puritanical movement out there working to save us from “dangerous” entertainment. 20-30 years ago I never would have guessed it would eventually come from the other side.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

For Gaza's accusation of Tucker Carlson being a white supremacist for reporting on the changing racial demographics of the country back in March 2018, apparently he has no problem with TYT doing the same in Sep 2018 praising the declining percentage of White Christians.



So, its 100% fine with reporting racial/religous demographic changes as long as it holds a 'Fuck White Christians' theme.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

Oh wow, this is rich.

'Basic decency.'

'Anyone with honesty can see this is harassment.'

He also has 'Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist' as his twitter profile.

He claims to be a journalist, and is demanding Crowder to be thrown off a media platform because his feelings are hurt, and destroys his arguments.


As far as Crowder goes, he hasn't called Maza anything Maza hasn't referred to himself as.

If you have ever seen ANY of his videos you'd know Crowder does impressions of everyone he mocks. This isn't uncommon in political comedy. Maza is latino, gay, overly effeminate, and speaks with a lisp. Should Crowder give Maza special treatment, by NOT mocking him?

"Make them dread public organising"

"terrorism - the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

 

[Witchhunt]

Another example of left wing shortsightedness. (Nuclear option anyone) its the old “fuck you at any cost”. It never ends well for anyone.
Funny how the corporate Boogyman crowd is cheering this on. I’m confused on the message. Are huge corporations bad and need regulation, or good as long as I agree with their policy?

Just sit back and watch the tech that blew a new wind into the sails of freedom turn in to the actual policing of the only freedom we have that can not be taken away, freedom of thought.

Every godamn one of us will live to regret this.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

Everything runs in a cycle.
This will blow up in their face, just like the 'nuclear option' did.

@lilelvis is a smart one.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

Another example of left wing shortsightedness. (Nuclear option anyone) its the old “fuck you at any cost”. It never ends well for anyone.
Funny how the corporate Boogyman crowd is cheering this on. I’m confused on the message. Are huge corporations bad and need regulation, or good as long as I agree with their policy?

Just sit back and watch the tech that blew a new wind into the sails of freedom turn in to the actual policing of the only freedom we have that can not be taken away, freedom of thought.

Every godamn one of us will live to regret this.

calm your tits, he's free to post videos. will be able to make money from them again shortly

 

[Witchhunt]

calm your tits, he's free to post videos. will be able to make money from them again shortly

Chip, chip, chip..... toe in water.

 

[nac386]

I remember when not so long ago it was the left that were the edgelords when the conservative right held all the cultural power. i was against puratanical censorship then and i am against it now.

I'm not left or right. I am a pretty middle of the road guy who thinks adults should act like adults and hold themselves responsible for their actions. I don't think there's anything "puritanical" about that. I do not considered the right wing internet community to be representative of all Republicans or all people with conservative ideology. I think they are an embarrassment to the right.

But I'm also well aware that I am not at all a part of the "internet edgelord" community and I don't understand it at all. I don't make outlandish comments online, and I don't get riled up when people who do get reprimanded by the platforms they were using. That just seems like an obvious consequence to me. I would think that most companies do not want their brand to become known for obnoxiousness.

It sort of reminds me of when RottenTomatoes started deleting troll-reviews for movies that right wing "Edgelords" didn't like. Of course, the edgelords claimed they were victimized and censored. But everybody else using RottenTomatoes was just like, "Well good, we would like to see real reviews that are not made useless by trolls."

Companies are not going to cater to trolls at the expense of people using the platform in the intended way. The intended way will be defined by the creators of the platform. I think a lot of people need to realize that and stop with the victimhood nonsense.

 

[Witchhunt]

I'm not left or right. I am a pretty middle of the road guy who thinks adults should act like adults and hold themselves responsible for their actions. I don't think there's anything "puritanical" about that. I do not considered the right wing internet community to be representative of all Republicans or all people with conservative ideology. I think they are an embarrassment to the right.

But I'm also well aware that I am not at all a part of the "internet edgelord" community and I don't understand it at all. I don't make outlandish comments online, and I don't get riled up when people who do get reprimanded by the platforms they were using. That just seems like an obvious consequence to me. I would think that most companies do not want their brand to become known for obnoxiousness.

It sort of reminds me of when RottenTomatoes started deleting troll-reviews for movies that right wing "Edgelords" didn't like. Of course, the edgelords claimed they were victimized and censored. But everybody else using RottenTomatoes was just like, "Well good, we would like to see real reviews that are not made useless by trolls."

Companies are not going to cater to trolls at the expense of people using the platform in the intended way. The intended way will be defined by the creators of the platform. I think a lot of people need to realize that and stop with the victimhood nonsense.

Crowder has 3.8 m subscribers. It may be about money, but not in the way you are thinking. YT is towing the line here.

 

[Wulfanon]

@nac386 - "I would think that most companies do not want their brand to become known for obnoxiousness."

How many companies cut ties with CNN, MSNBC, NYT or others when they went too far with the anti-Trump stuff?

None.

 

[Witchhunt]

YT are setting themselves up for the win/win here. “See, we are the good guys, crowder can be monetized again. Just don’t say stuff we don’t like.”

 

[Wulfanon]

@lilelvis - I think they don't want Crowder getting banned. If he does, his supporters are going to go to places people like me go that are 100% absolutely non-controlled and against various narratives right and left.

 

[nac386]

Crowder has 3.8 m subscribers. It may be about money, but not in the way you are thinking. YT is towing the line here.

I don't think it has to do with money. I think it has to do with branding, and not being seen as a company that encourages or accommodates guys who use their platform to sell shirts that say, "Socialists are f*gs".

I think there is a bit of soul-searching that these companies face. They want to open their platforms up to the public, but they don't want people using their platforms for nastiness. I'm sure we put ourselves in their position, and felt that kind of weight, we'd understand how difficult it is to see your platform turn into a cesspool. I don't think these decisions are as easy as people pretend they are.

@nac386 - "I would think that most companies do not want their brand to become known for obnoxiousness."

How many companies cut ties with CNN, MSNBC, NYT or others when they went too far with the anti-Trump stuff?

None.

CNN was not selling "Trump is a f*g" T-shirts.

The "anti-Trump" stuff on CNN is no different than the anti-Obama stuff on Fox News for 8 years. All kinds of ridiculous slander was pushed against him and his family. That's politics as usual.

 

[Wulfanon]

@nac386 "CNN was not selling "Trump is a f*g" T-shirts. The "anti-Trump" stuff on CNN is no different than the anti-Obama stuff on Fox News for 8 years. All kinds of ridiculous slander was pushed against him and his family. That's politics as usual."

Sarah Jeong openly called for White people to be "cancelled" and talked about how she gets off being "cruel to White men". If this was a White person saying something about another non-muslim race(you're allowed to critique them, but no other race - wonder why?), they'd lose every sponsor:

 

[GearSolidMetal]

@nac386 - "I would think that most companies do not want their brand to become known for obnoxiousness."

How many companies cut ties with CNN, MSNBC, NYT or others when they went too far with the anti-Trump stuff?

None.

And YouTube hasn't asked individual companies what content providers they'd like their advertisements to be associated with.

YouTube has only unilaterally declared that companies do not wish to have their advertisements viewed on demonetized channels.